Panic Flinch
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Thanks...I learned something here. If I hit a piece of steel continually and I don't hear "hit", it means I have already hit the steel and I should be looking for another. Unless, it is the opinion of the RO that the "hits" were misses....then we are in a tail spin.
I like the idea of calling all hits on steel...even if they have already been hit. If the shooter passes one, it's on him.
Also, if a shooter believes he is on his last piece of steel and he continually hits it and the RO is silent....the RO is keeping the clock running so to speak. BTW...I love the RO's....you guys and gals work real hard and are great and I'm not bashing...just giving the example for claification of all.
Thanks for the replies and I'll keep them in my tool box.
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Thanks for the replies...Seems the Range Master is in control of this.
Follow up question......
If during a stage (timmer running) a shooter asks an RO..."Have I engaged all the targets?" Is the RO in violation if he or she gives a yes or no answer to this question?
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Hi guys....quick question and hopefully you can save me 30 minutes of research.
FN 3Gun match...using rifle...6 targets....dispersed on the hillside in banks of 2 steel...2 steel...1 steel...1 steel. Shooter moves through all the steel left to right, but misses the very first far left steel popper. After the array, he comes back to it. But instead of shooting at the first piece of steel...he mistakenly shoots at the second piece (they are close together).
He hits the second piece of steel several times, but RO's do not call hits on it. Presumably because he has already hit it and is shooting at the wrong target. Of course they do not say "hey buddy, you need to shoot the one to the left of the one you are hitting" as this would be coaching. Or is it?
So here is the question..Should they tell the shooter he has already hit the one he is shooting at? Should they make the shooter aware that it is the far left target he should be shooting at?
Are the RO's wrong for not calling hits on the target that he hit already? Or should they just be silent.
How many times should they let the shooter continue hitting steel without calling a hit...even if it is an extra hit?
As I watched this play out...I was thinking if I was an RO it would be very hard for me NOT to tell the shooter he is trying to make up the wrong target.
Your thoughts?.... and thanks for saving me some research.
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For real.....looks like safe handling to me....divorce is coming for sure.
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Any mags that I have that are not full go in my cargo pants pocket!
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Yep...part of my routine...check it twice.
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I've seen guys realize that they forgot their mags at their back pack after the buzzer......run over...dig in the pack...get them and continue!!! ha ha.....the last one only lost about 15 seconds because of it in a three gun match. But still sucks to no be ready on the line...
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I quickly changed from DP sights to Trijicons on the Glock before a match....I didn't Locktite them because I was going to swith them back after the match (100 rounds). Well you guessed it...the screw on my front sight came loose after about 70 rounds! And I even gave it a little extra troque since I was not Locktiting! Sheeshhh....Locktite is a MUST on that front Trijicon sight.
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Good to hear you are coming back and that you have the fortitude to learn, clear your thoughts and move on.
I sometimes wonder how many folks that are DQ'd never come back to our sport......
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I think its a double (two round full auto) and if you are not shooting quickly, it can very easily be seen and heard.
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Ouch...never had the round under a follower, but will definately count them in the future.
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It's always the distractions that sidetrack our plan.....Don't beat yourself up, you probably learned 10 different important technique changes that will make you a better and safer shooter.
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Good point about the bullet button...I hod no idea it could give training scars that could affect a real life shooting!
Also....sorry to hear about the DQ....don't sweat it....learn, clear your mind...move on. For me, I am using new prescription glass that change my depth perception...so I must be very aware of "bumping" things, so I understand your frustration.
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Thats funny...I will have to remember not to do the lube thing in the rain or to excess!
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Hey...is 4 minutes and 35 seconds a good time? I'm down from 6 minutes and 10 seconds left handed.
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My shooting has gotten worse also...
When I bullseye shoot with no time limit...just for fun, I can really concentrate on the sights...alphas are easy at 25 yards.
In competition, I freak out, go too fast and start looking only at the targets. I know I'm floundering when I'm seeing the holes appear on the paper. On the other hand, when shooting for accuracy, slow fire, I usually never see the holes appear on paper.
To top it off...at 48 years old, my vision has begun to really fail me. I can not see anything close anymore to the point where I can not clearly see crisp daylight on either side of my Trijicon front sight post...or level across the top.
I am now trying to discover if my reading glasses are going to help...with them I cant see anything far away and get a little vertigo moving.
Eye doc has recommended a soft focus (long distance prescription with +.75 to make front sight clear) for dominant eye and long distance prescription for left....so each eye has a different prescription. Trying that too....
Also trying inverted bi-focal, where the bi-focal for up close vision is at the top of the lens. The rest of the lens is long distance.
With all these changes...I'm currently taking steps back, but I know I will improve once I find a groove and obtain the correct set of glasses.
Kills me....I used to have 20-15 uncorrected. I now envy the folks who have perfect vision. I will never use bad vision as an excuse, because I think its lame and I hear people use it as an excuse all the time. If I can correct my vision, I can shoot. In the process now.
Don't give up and have fun.....02
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I do not believe the folks who eject a round in the air and catch it are "showboating".....they are simply saving their round from becoming contaminated in the dirt, as well as the convenience of not having to bend over and look for it on the ground. Everyone I have seen do this maintains proper muzzle discipline and shows a proper clear after the 1/2 a second it took to secure the round. I'm sure some folks who try to do this are performing a task outside of their ability...and then become unsafe...there is always someone in the crowd. But "showboating".....naahh....just the shortest distance between two points. Does it look like "showboating"? Yes. Is it "showboating"? Naaah...I don't think so.
If this practice has been proven to be unsafe...it should be prohibited.
I've done it thousands of times....and yes caught every single one....wink.... BUT have stopped doing it at matches out of respect and politeness to the ROs who may have issue with it. Muzzle down range...mag out...rack the slide...round is gone forever...I won't reuse them once they hit the ground. Just my preference.
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I'm from Alaska...but drive a Lexus LX470 (Land Cruiser)......will bite the head off a live fish....but also weigh my charges on a Sartorius lab scale to 1/1000 of a grain....sooo...not sure where I fit in. I can be seen wearing Carharts and a Cartier. I repair pocket watches....but can also pull a transmission. I'm starting to realize.... I'm all messed up...ha ha. Mostly geek I guess... .02
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I witnessed someone shoot very well recently who was using the following technique… He placed his finger deep into the trigger passed the joint... So that it was actually coming out the other side of the gun. Then used to the thumb of his support hand as leverage to pull the trigger finger rearward. He stated that the leverage he used with his thumb against his trigger finger helped him relax and hold more steady. He only did this slow fire, and I tried it as well. It worked okay except that my thumbs don't normally rest in the position that is needed to use this two finger technique...
I also witnessed another fellow who did not have an index finger on his hand… He shot very well using his middle finger.
I have noticed with my Glock at 25 yards when I position my finger on the trigger off-center to the left to the right of the pad it can affect my windage downrange. When I slide my finger out of the trigger guard and use this just the tip of my finger... It makes my shots go right. If I put more finger on the trigger it makes my shots go left. This is just a matter of a couple inches at 25.
I'm curious if anyone else has noticed this phenomenon as well?
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I find that practicing my long-distance shots helps me keep my hands steady, which lately for me has been a perishable skill. It also helps me stop flinching. I also don't use as much ammo during slow fire and it is cost-effective. So a little boring… Yes ....but in the long run it's good practice.
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The Glock can be completely operated with one hand… Including malfunction drills..... There are many websites on the Internet giving examples and instruction on this. Good luck to you...
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Thanks for the info guys....saved me some research.
Regards,
Gavin
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That's awesome. I really like to see folks who truly build something. It is like nails down a chalkboard when I hear someone say they "just built an AR" ...when actually they only assembled it!! In my mind there is a definite distinction between the two....and you can now properly claim to have actually buit your accomplishments. I'm envious and watch from the outside looking in.
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Just curious if anyone knows if a Dillon Super 1050 through Brian has a backlog? What is the approximate wait time?
Thanks for your assistance.....
Weapon Abandonment DQ
in Multi-gun Rules / Stage Design / Match Administration
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Wow...empty hull in chamber...DQ? Wow....defies logic. Especially since there are chamber flags made out of empty hulls. Too funny. I was at a match....rifles were on pegged rack. Competitor walks by and foot snags a sling.... a chamber flagged rifle gets pulled and falls from the rack onto the grass. RO is trying to DQ competitor who tripped on sling. I anxiously watched the tension. MD over ruled and said..."Put the rifle back on the rack and carry on". It was nice to see common sense prevail. Our sport does create some very interesting scenarios at the very least. Someday all these rules will get sorted out and the playing field will finally be level.
Here's a good one. FNH 3 Gun...two weeks ago. On a stage with a baseball diamond, shooter had to keep a foot on the bag while taking the shots. A very talented competitor who was missing both legs below the knee, removed his prosthetic, put his tennis shoe on the base and used his fake leg as a monopod! Classic, and a very moving moment for all of those of us who watched...but really, would you DQ the guy for using artificial support. I'm sure there are some RO's out there that would.
When all is said and done....I do agree with a level playing field for all, but at some point common sense has to play a role. Empty hull is not a dangerous condition worthy of a DQ.