Chrisn38s

Not sure what "Elites" you are referring to. CZ bought Dan Wesson in 2005 and to my knowledge has never produced any Customs until 2011. I too have had the chance to fondle one of the Elites, they are awe inspiring in both build quality and components. I have heard from people that attended the Shot Show that the limited guns will be running around upper middle 3k. The one I played with was the limited, they are right it requires no more tinkering and it felt like a solid piece of steel "no rattle, no play". Lightened slide, fibers, awesome trigger, and a barrel that shoots better than myself. The only thing you may want is more magazines, however it does come with 2 140s unlike other manufacturers.

I think they are doing 40 per year in the Elite line and I don't think they are being built in the DW Factory as they are custom built.

Specs.."from what i have heard and seen".. may have something to do with the price. Checkered Frames Schuemann barrels EGW Koenig Hammers and Sears Dawson sights on Iron guns Dawson ICE magwells 2 140 mags per gun Accu-lock plugs Lightened slides Barry Mounts on the Open Guns Ti hammer struts All around high end components.

Pic of the Havoc

Found this online today with a pic of the limited gun. Dan Wesson Shot Show

Caspian Hi cap Bianchi Cup Blaster 38sc This was a combined effort between myself and Master pistolsmith Fred Craig

My suggestion is a Dutch Shepherd +10 on watch dog but also a +10 on energy level.

Are you sure on this one? 8.2 and a 124??? That seems really hot to me. Be careful there, those pressures have to be nuts. Yep I am sure, olier chrono and area 2 cronos were both 171 pf. 1389 fps. + - 5 fps I have backed off to 8.0g and do not flatten primers anymore. 1360 fps 168pf and shoots very good. 1.175 oal wsr primer All crono's were done in Arizona 80 to 100 degrees fyi I'm getting about the same thing with Silhouette through a KKM 5" barrel with 1 popple hole, 124 MG CMJ @ 1.163 OAL 8.0 goes 171PF and 8.2 gives me 174PF. The 8.2 load works the comp just a bit better than 8.0 grains. Primers are a little on the flat side with both 8.0 and 8.2. One thing I have noticed with Silhouette, the SD for all of the rounds I have put over the chrono averages about 4 fps. Very consistent and reasonably clean at these levels. I'm still working with True Blue and HS-6, the jury is still out. So far both of these have topped out just barely making 165PF. Also, plan to try some WSF and see how that goes. WSR for primers. The Major 9 Load that I am running out of my open Glock OAL 1.15 Primer CCI SR Win Brass WSF 7.5g Zero 115 JHP 1463 fps 168 pf Primers look like factory ammo shot out of a Glock