Tim Bacus

Poor misunderstood Duane Actually I have shot the type of stage that Duane is describing, and have even used them from time to time in our local IDPA matches at the NRA. Normally a course will require you to fire a certain number of rounds at each target, say 2, 3 or 6. However the course description can also simply say, "Egage all targets, all targets must be nutralized to score." If this is the case then each target scores a maximun of five points and four points must be present on the target for it to be considered nutralized. I do not normally do this for an entire course of fire but sometimes I have incorperated extreamly fast moving targets with minimal exposure time and require that they only be nutralized rather than hit twice. And, BTW, the answer to Duane's question is that unless the shots are very difficult it is almost always better to fire one aimed shot rather than two quick sloppy ones. Tim

Simple, catch it before it hits the ground.

The separation of Open and Limited makes sense to me. I don't want to compete against someone shooting a compensated gun with a dot sight (I shoot a .45 Para, limited), but do we really need other divisions? (L10, Production)?? Why? Do these divisions add anything to our sport? I don't mean to flame you here but what you seem to be saying is that since you shoot a high cap Limited gun you appreciate not having to compete against shooters who you percive to have better (more competitive) equipment but, you don't see the need for a seperate division for those who's equipment is less competitive. We already have classifications. If you aren't intersted in winning the match you are only shooting against shooters of equal ability. So someone who can get 18 rounds in a magazine edges you because you had to reload 3 times and he only had to reload once. Is that really a problem? Your classication is based on your overall performance, so is his. What can you do with your equipment? (That sounds bad, but you know what I mean.) Doesn't this argument also hold true for you? Why be concerned that your Limited Para is less competitve than an Open Gun, will you not be classed against Open shooters who's match performance is equal to your own? We have a lot of new shooters who begin in L10 or Production division, but most of them who stay with the sport very long wind up with a high-cap pistol. Very few stick with the other divisions. It looks to me like most of the people shooting L10 or production in the major matches are doing it because they think they have a better chance of winning (fewer competitors = better prizes). Have we really gained anything with L10 and Production divisions? The answer to your question is the first seven words in your comment before it.