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Is there any projected round count for this event?
Also will there be any email confirmation or online roster stating whose applications have been received and are registered for the competition?
Thanks
Max rounds per stage is 61. The target ratio will be 60% rifle and 40% pistol for the match. That being said we expect approx 550 total rounds (330-ish rifle and 220-ish pistol, not including any re-shoots or make-up shots). I'd bring 450 rounds rifle and 300 rounds pistol.
Regarding email confirmation for apps, absolutely. We'll start sending out notifications next week and will provide updates monthly moving forward.
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Sneak peak at the updated rule book coming out tomorrow. Attached below.
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Sneak peak at the updated rule book coming out tomorrow. Attached below.
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quick question, I was trying to decide which class to run. I only have a single stack .45 for a pistol, so I really would be limited to 10rds. my question would be on LimCap - rifle. I have a bunch of 20 and 30 rd mags. can I run those, but only loaded to 10 rnds, or do i have to be using 10 rd mags. would hate to have to guy and buy a bunch of 10 rd mags when I am covered up with 20s and 30s. its either that or run TacOps. thanks for the info
You can load to 10 rounds, in your rifle mags, even if the mag has a higher capacity. Similar to USPSA Production Division where you can only load 10+1 in a mag and your mag can hold more than that.
If I were you i'd run Tac Ops. Handgun round counts are typically low and you'd be able to run up to 30+1 in your rifle.
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Looks like a great way to forget about that horrible device called a shotgun! Hopefully some of the matches will make their way down to central Texas. I've been looking for a good excuse to work on my sling movement.
They're running USCA matches in Dallas and one will soon be running in Houston.
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I looked at the rules. Lost interest when I read five different kinds of reloads. Really?
Just because there are 5 reloads listed doesn't mean you'll encounter them at every match. I've shot at least 16 USCA matches since March 17th 2013 and only had three types of reloads: reloads when i wanted to reload, reloads where i run the gun dry and tac reloads. I only tac reloaded on 3 stages across all those matches and used a maglink/coupler to perform the reload, which is legal, and it didnt even hurt a bit.
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Add Nightforce to the sponsor list and prize table!
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O.K. sounds better, I will try to make it if work load will let me.
I think you'll have a great time. You'll probably see a ton of your comps there too!
We also will be using our newly released USCA targets. Same outer dimensions as IDPA and USPSA targets but different internal zones. The D-zones will have 1-second less penalty time. Should hurt less hitting a delta.
Our good friends at MGM Targets will be the offfical manufacturer, and distributor, of these targets.
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Benny,
Thanks for giving us a look! We're big fans of yours.
Regarding us being " a lot" like IDPA, I disagree. I do agree that scoring is similar but the similarities end there.
No fishing vest.
You can drop mags with bullets in them
You can reload in the open
Cover is enforced by fault line not some guy guessing what % of your body is exposed (p.s. in the 20 USCA matches I've shot I cant recall a club having a stage where the description used the word "cover".
IDPA dictates the course of fire on EVERY stage. We limit it by % of stages that an be dictated based on the level of match you're shooting.
We use the dreaded words "tac reload" but the inclusion of the word tac reload doesnt imply their prevalance at matches. It's an option for a stage designer and its use is limited by the narrative cap.
So i'd refactor your statement to say "USCA is NOT like anything else"
In other news, our rulebook is being updated and should be even more appealing to a broader audience.
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Kurt,
That's a valid concern but, with the number of shooters attending, the number of stages being shot and wanting to keep it a two day event we had to make some sacrifices. Scoring will be near real-time so we should have a winner by 5:15. If the squads finish earlier, we'll pick prizes earlier.
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Registration is now open. Slots will go quickly. See you at the match!
Link to form: http://www.uscarbineassociation.com/downloads/2013%20Noveske%20Rifleworks%20USCA%20National%20Championship%20Entry%20Form.pdf
Link to match page on website: http://www.uscarbineassociation.com/2013-championship.cfm
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I am so in on this one!!
Finally a match in a month that I know I can take off of work for!
We are going to have some pretty awesome courses of fire. I'm biased, of course, but the longish-range stage (300+ yards) is going to be epic.
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Just reading over some rules and have a question about no-shoots.
The rule says:
"Shots that penetrate "Shoot Targets" and hit No Shoot targets count as a hit on No Shoots. *No more than 50% of the 0-‐second penalty area can be covered by a target required to be engaged, on any course of fire. The 0 Second penalty zones of a No Shoot must never be obstructed by more than 50% by a Shoot Target.
Maybe I'm not reading this properly but does this mean that if 50% of a no-shoot target is stapled behind a shoot target and I put 2 shots into the 1 second zone on the 50% side that is covering the no-shoot, I will incur 2 no shoot hit penalties?
The quick answer is we are updating the rulebook, last time this year, and this will no longer be an issue. In the updated rulebook all targets will be considered impenetrable so shoot throughs, thankfully, will no longer be an issue. We're also making a few other updates that should be well received.
Thanks for checking us out!
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Daniel Defense has just signed on as a Division sponsor for the 2013 Noveske Rifleworks USCA National Championship! They make amazing rifles and we're so happy to have them as a sponsor and to add their rifles to the prize table. Be sure to check them out at https://danieldefense.com/
Novekeske, KAC and Daniel Defense rifles will be sitting on the prize table.
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Finally we can formally disclose the location of the host range. We had a verbal agreement for some time but nothing in writing. As of Saturday the formal contract was signed. The range is the Volusia County Gun & Hunt Club in New Symrna Beach, Florida (link below).
The owner of the range has invested a good bit in updating the range and it truly is ready for the big leagues. Lots of bays, tons of space and close to a major airport and attractions (Orlando,FL and Daytona Beach). I wouldn't be suprised if they start prying major USPSA matches out of the clutches of The Universal Shooting Academy down in Frostproof,FL in the very near future.
Registration will be open June 28th and we will provide the registration link here and on both our website and Facebook page.
Registration fees will include a one-year membership with USCA. ROs and volunteers will shoot free. If you're interested in volunteering please message me or shoot me an email (mac AT uscarbineassociation.com).
We are working out discounted rates for hotels in the area and should have that nailed down very soon. We will have a food vendor onsite.
Range Website: http://www.volusiacountygunandhuntclub.com/
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Is it okay to drop the mag, fire the last round in the rifle at a target and then sling?
That's actually genius. Instead of dropping the mag and racking a round out, just drop the mag, burn off the round, sling and transition to the pistol.
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Is it okay to drop the mag, fire the last round in the rifle at a target and then sling?
Absolutely!
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When transitioning from rifle to pistol the shooter must perform the following actions in the order prescribed below*. Failure to comply will result in a match disqualification, as the rifle must be clear before the handgun is employed.
1) Drop the magazine loaded into the rifle
2) Cycle the action emptying the chamber
3) Engage the safety
4) Sling the rifle (When a rifle is empty it can be slung behind the shooter as long as it stays below a 90degree and points towards the ground)
From the posted rule book...
Wold this also apply to sling transitions? So that mag should be dropped and chamber cleared before transition to pistol.
If you are slinged, and run your rifle dry, there is no need to drop the mag and cycle the action.
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If the bolt drops, on an empty chamber, while moving its not a DQ as long as the gun is empty. A DQ happens when the RO asks you to show clear and a round pops out.I am not sure about all this slinging stuff. I have had my bolt locked back and it went forward while moving. So that would be a DQ? Alot of money to blow on a DQ over something that really doesn't have anything to do with shooting.
All this talk about slings makes it seem complicated but its really simple, be safe and dont sling a hot rifle. Before you transiston, make sure it is empty.
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Wait, what? Breaking the 180 with a sling? You better explain that stuff. Every time ive had a long gun slung in a match its cold until i unslung it. 180 didn't matter until it was hot.
It's good we're having this conversation. I think we're saying the same thing.
It really comes down to stage design.
Most USCA stages start with the rifle hot so 180 rule is in effect immediately But, if the gun is started cold, sure, its a cold rifle. The key point to be made is that once the rifle is made hot, it is considered hot the rest of the stage. It is too difficult for an RO to determine, at run time, if you truly ran the rifle dry.
Here is the gray area that we are willing to accept during slinging the rifle. First, I'll restate, we dont sling hot rifles. If you're using a single point sling, or a two point sling, you can let it point towards the ground when transitioning to the pistol but rifle must be empty. If, during transition to your pistol, the gun points parallel to the ground, up-range its a DQ. But it can muzzle the ground on the transition.
Check out the slinging of a empty rifle in this vid (stage starts at the 40-second mark). It doesn't swing back to the crowd going paralel to the ground breaking the 180, and is kept down range between shooting positions. In the absence of a barrel to ditch his rifle the shooter is required to sling the rifle before transitioning. If he still had rounds in his rifle mag he would have need to drop the mag and rack out the chambered round before transitioning to his pistol.
All that being said, local clubs can elect to drop the mag, rack the live round out and throw the rifle in a bucket before transitioning to the pistol. At Nats we will be using a sling as this is a differentiating skill and, at the National level, we'll want the shooter ultimately taking home the title to be proficient at not only shooting but also gun handling, including sling manipulation.
Hope this clears it up.
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Will slings be required?
I'd say 75% of the stages at Nats will require slings.
Our rulebook does allow clubs to run sling-less but, we will have quite a few stages requing slings.
Most people, on stages requiring slings, are using single point slings to ease rifle to pistol transitions and decrease the chance of breaking the 180 with a 2-point sling.
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It all depends on the club. Some are very heavy rifle and some balance it out between both guns. I just shot a local club match on Sunday that had 6 courses of fire and was about a 65/35 split rifle/pistol.
Nats will be approx 60% rifle and 40% pistol.
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Once registration opens we'll list the match hotel and hotels in the area that we've worked out reduced rates with.
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MGM Targets and Warne Scope Mounts just signed up as sponsors! The list continues to grow!
The 2013 Noveske Rifleworks USCA National Championship
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