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I had an RO at a recent major tell me "Make ready". I didn't think that I heard him correctly, so I did nothing. "Make ready", he repeated 10 seconds later.
I looked at him and said "Load and make ready?", not trying to be a smart ass, rather wanting to be perfectly certain that I was not about to dq myself.
"There is no loading involved in the start of this stage, so make ready!", was his reply.
Obviously I am not going to correct the stage commands just before he scores my stage...but come on guys
Wasn't there and hate to 'Monday Morning Quarterback'.... but while 'Make Ready' isn't specifically called out under USPSA rules, it is called out under IPSC rules (8.3.1 assuming this was an unloaded start). I know it's a little weird, but calling out LAMR on an unloaded start gets weird too.... "YOU told me to LOAD and make ready"...
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I was at a sectional match earlier this year where the CRO on one stage asked, "Are you ready?"
When I didn't reply and just maintained the start position, he comes back with,
"WELL? ....ARE YOU??!!?!"
Hmmm....
While I think this is obvious, I'll put it up here anyway as someone may learn from it... the tried and true indicator for most of the NROI staff is when the competitor assumes the start position and settles down. Most competitors keep their hand on the gun while they are 'getting their mind right', and since we can't start them while touching the gun (8.2.3), it is really obvious that they are not ready. While a nod is often appreciated, once they pull their hand from the gun and assume the position, they will get 'Are You Ready?' from me...
With all the matches I have worked, I'd bet that I could count the number of 'premature Are You Ready commands' I've given on one hand....
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I HATE IT when I see something about to happen that is going to hurt the competitor, but I also know that I can NOT say anything to him/her unless I say the exact same thing to every competitor (which brings us back to LeRoy's post)...
BDH, I had the same situation at a major match recently.
Those are the calls that make working matches hard.
I just hate it when...
- a competitor doesn't jack a round into the chamber...
- a competitor doesn't insert a magazine in the well before the start...
- a competitor fails to complete a mandatory reload or assume a required shooting position in a standards...
- a competitor runs past a target...
- and especially when they are shooting steel... it isn't going down... they turn around and say 'the steel isn't falling' while the clock is still ticking, and then they turn and shoot it down...
I really WANT to say something, but have to bite my tongue and let what happens... happen... In fact, if you ever find yourself in the situation of trying to point out something to me during a COF, and notice that I am not saying anything and instead just staring at the timer, well...
- a competitor doesn't jack a round into the chamber...
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Oh...here is another one...one that I am guilty of as a shooter.
Shooters never really listen during the walk-through. And, for some of that, I don't blame them... (Welcome to the blah, blah, blah, Stage blah, blah, designed by blah....)
But, your CRO's sure would appreciate it if you listened to the start position.
As CRO, I fully expect to read it once...state it again in the Q&A at the end of the walk through...then tell each shooter (individually) at the LAMR.
Give that a try 300 times.
Hey! Get used to it Kyle!!!
One thing that was interesting in Ecuador was that it seemed that every squad 'did' listen to the walkthru, and many didn't even understand English!!
Oh that's right, I was going to post a match update about my experience down there. Maybe I can get that done this weekend...
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Brian,
Yeah Nationals a couple years ago. You checked my mag and it was fine there. That's the part that is driving me nuts!
Well, not sure what to say as actually, I don't think that I have 'ever' pulled a mag at a Nationals, but I am glad to hear you mag was legal!!
Then again, people often are surprised that I do not remember the fastest time, for X Division as well. I think the good news of all that is that unless something really weird happens, I just see competitor after competitor, and they kind of all run together... -
I ran a lot of shooters on Stage 3 (cart) at the Area8 match. Giving that the shooter was sitting down, I had a birds-eye view of what was going on. But, I was also futher away than usual and often moving backwards and trying not to fall down.
I didn't DQ anybody for finger violations, nor for breaking the 180.
Had I not been going backwards and had the nature of the cof not required that I be quite a few steps further away from the shooter...
There probably could have been about a dozen DQ's. I want to be 100% sure when I call a DQ. There were many cases where I was 99.9% sure.
Got VIDEO? Would love to see this in action??
As for mag gauges... years ago at a match I had a thirty (30) round COF, and it was suggested that I check competitors that completed the COF without a reload. There were only a couple of people and fortunately, their mags were in compliance. Then again, there was one competitor who was a little upset that I did ask for his mag before calling the RM. The tough part was when the RM showed up, measured the mag (and it was long), and the competitor asked 'exactly, who are you?'
No one wants to send someone to Open, or in this case to the 'shoot for fun' ranks, but... ya gotta be in compliance with the rules...
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Yes, I also love Tull and Rush. One of my most favorite videos is a bonus disc from the Tull 'Selections from Living with the Past'. There are only three videos on the disc but they are all special as they are filmed/recorded in his home with a small groups of strings. Gotta tell ya... 'Life Is A Long Song' is just unbelievable in this setting...
Of course, I could dig deep and go back to some of the 50's and 60's DooWop sounds, but since I didn't experience them personally, I will let someone a little older than me comment (and I will be the first to chime in and say... 'so sorry I missed THAT era')...
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As far as the reshoots go, I always remember 20.
+1
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I went back in time this weekend and watched 'Tommy' last night, followed by "Quadrophenia' tonight. While I have several favorite bands from that time (Talking Heads, DEVO, etc.), I gotta tell ya when it comes to the overall music, lyrics, and putting together a 'rock opera'... no one does it better...
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I understand the reasons not to touch the competitor, BUT I sure as hell wish that someone had blocked a competitors gun from coming around and pointing directly at the center of my chest a couple of years ago in Barry.
Of course this was a flagrant violation as he probably broke the 210 or maybe even 220... -
I am lucky the bar I go to in Ann Arbor has around 90 microbrews on tap and hundreds more in bottle. My favorites are : Stone Brewing, Bells, Founders, Great Lakes, Dogfish, Rogue, the list goes on and on. My favorite beer overall has to be the Arrogant Bastard Ale from stone, Are you worthy? I also love Rogue's Imperial Stout from the Cask.
I am also a big fan of Great Lakes Brewing, and more so of Rogue, but I do think 'I am WORTHY' so I'm gonna find me some Arrogant Bastard Ale and give it a try. Thanks for the tip...
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I need to go back and check our bylaws, but I think when I went thru new member orientation years ago, the stated policy was that as long as the shooting was done, the guns were cased and in your car, you could sit outside the clubhouse and drink a few beers. We don't have a bar or sell alcohol, and to be quite honest, I do not ever remember seeing anyone drinking there.
I DO have to check out the bylaws however as Shooter Grrl and I did have, ummmm..... let's just say, an 'idea'...
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Absolutely. The wife and I stopped there for a drink a few months ago during a bike ride.
Probably my second favorite place in Indy!! My true love would still be the Slippery Noodle Inn!!
In fact, Deb and I should probably grab a room in Indy some Saturday night, and spend some time at the Noodle. -
Couple of things...
First, LeRoy is correct in that it must be read VERBATIM! And as we all know, that is so every competitor hears the exact same instructions to insure as fair of a competition as possible.
Second, while I agree with Trapr's comments about 'RO's being helpful'... this gets a little weird at times. At the 2001 Nationals in Barry (right after 9/11) I gave a competitor LAMR. He played with his gun a bunch inserting and dropping mags, but ended up holstered with no magazine in the well, and then assumed the start position.
Well, the 'helpful' side of me came out (especially since he had traveled from a foreign Country to get here when even US competitors were having a hard time getting in to Barry) so I asked him 'Are You Ready' more than once, and he finally reached around, felt the empty magwell, smiled, loaded and away we went. While it felt like I did the 'right' thing at the time, it didn't take long for me to realize that I had just influenced the match outcome. (BTW, this situation was fixed in the Green rulebook under 8.1 '....the Range Officier must not take any action as, the competitor is always responsible for the handling of the handgun...').I HATE IT when I see something about to happen that is going to hurt the competitor, but I also know that I can NOT say anything to him/her unless I say the exact same thing to every competitor (which brings us back to LeRoy's post)...
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Peroni (IMHO) is a so-and-so beer: a somewhat good commercial one, but definitely not special.
Luca, sorry, ONLY Italian brew I could name off the top of my head (and my usual drink at the US 'knockoff Italian resturants'). I'll tell ya what... give me an idea what you would like to drink from the US, and we can do a 'swap' at Cheval-Blanc...
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Flyfishing in Idaho, lunch was a deli sandwich and a "Black Dog Ale" from Spanish Peaks Brewery. Damn, I wish I could find some of that again....
Happy to help! Two distributors in CA... Black Dog Ales
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Yeah, and a stop at Lenny's for a stromboli and no trip to Bloomington is complete without a stop at Big Red Liquors.
Does the 'Broad Ripple Brew Pub' still exist? It has been a lot of years, but I did spend a certain amount of time there (or was that TD Alibi's I was thinking of?)....
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Brian,
I'll make sure to bring you in Cheval-Blanc a bottle or two of Birra Menabrea, finest italian brew since 1846 ...
What, no Peroni?
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One of the reasons, I like traveling to different areas is to sample the local brew. In Ecuador, it was Brahma (sp?)... and in Missoula it was Moose Drool from the Big Sky Brewing Company. Plus, you gotta love their slogan... "We Make Water Fun"...
The only thing better than traveling and experiencing the different brews, is when one of your friends ships you a case of it without your knowledge!!
I'd say more, but I have a nice, tall 16 oz aluminum bottle calling my name... -
My favorite 1 of the 4 seasons ............ FOOTBALL season!
I KNEW there was something I just didn't like about you!!!
Even though my Buckeyes lost their Heisman winning QB, and a lot of our awesome receiving talent, as long as Meeeeechigan hangs in there with Loyd Carr (please, PLEASE don't let them fire him), my BUCKEYES will be looking good in November!! Can't wait.... see ya in Ann Arbor...
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Is a 2x4 support for a wall going from 3' high to the ground at a 45 degree angle considered part of hard cover or does it not exist like the target sticks?
I would consider this to be part of the prop & rule accordingly.
As would I...
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Yes, I know why, but by not telling, I win! AND I don't look like a bully that picks on a gimp
Okay, you got me on that one, and I won't be pissed for you picking on 'lil ole me'!!!
I have to try to get my foot into a shoe tomorrow and drive in to work. They aren't exactly happy with me these days because I have been off so much... -
HA HA HA - I was HALF right. He showed up SATURDAY and worked his butt off but was no-show on Sunday!!!
Well, I can only assume you know why???
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Actually, I just learned this this year after I had one of these situations. That is part of the reason I like to go sit through the L1 RO and L2 CRO classes if they are local and I am available. Also, while I realize that we are talking USPSA rules here, the current 2006 IPSC rulebook does cover this issue...
Then again, people often are surprised that I do not remember the fastest time, for X Division as well. I think the good news of all that is that unless something really weird happens, I just see competitor after competitor, and they kind of all run together... 
I have to try to get my foot into a shoe tomorrow and drive in to work. They aren't exactly happy with me these days because I have been off so much...
Stuff I saw while running shooters at a big match
in USPSA/IPSC Rules
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Well, you do get the stage descriptions in the match book at major matches. The bigger problem is the actual start position, which often is not finalized until just before the match. The challenge is that the stages are always different on paper than they are 'on the ground'...