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Pretty rough draw from what I can see of it (better to have a side view)....knees bend(not entirely a bad thing),head moves/drops(very bad thing),whole body drops....youre workin way too hard!... try to relax, once you clean up your fundamentals a little more try it and see how much faster you can be when you are completely relaxed. I had written on my dry board for a long time...."Relax and do everything right no matter how long it takes....smooth equals fast!!" your reload looked a little iffy too...you did a good job of keeping the gun out but that type of "wing and hope stick it" wont be consistent....watch how your body twists and you can really see it in your shoulders again you are working way too hard!.In my opinion Travis T. has some of the best reloads in the game...watch how he brings the gun in, in front of his face, high! and notice how his head doesnt move and how relaxed he is....last year at a class with him/max "Double Impact" I thought my relods were pretty good going in....I was wrong...what T.T. taght me totally wrecked my reloads for awile til I "reprogramed" I could never stick a sub second reload consistently until then..keep at it man youll get better!!!

I have a Kimber rimfire conv. I use alot and recently found the remington wally world stuff to be totally unreliable...4-5 no-gos per mag!! went back tried the federal and...yeah like it should be about 1 cold one per 550....went back bought lots more.

Ahh the contructive response I was looking for!!! thanks some answers to your questions...No I shoot other peoples guns to the same P.O.I. as they do. Everyone (that has learned to shoot) that shoots my guns finds them to be mech. zeroed.When I shoot my guns left hand only I can only shoot a group at 25 just in the a-zone (about 6in.) and its slow.But the P.O.I. does not change and I throw about the same amount of "milk the trigger type" low left hits as I usually do.Yes I have experimented with using my right eye...no difference in P.O.I. Last fall I was considering having my right eye lasiked, my eye doc popped in a $4 contact and WOW! 20/20. My right eye was previously -1.00 and I could never get used to glasses so thats just how it was and I adapted.Since getting the contact my shooting is improving considerably but it made no difference in any of my guns P.O.I. The only thing I ve noticed since then is my XD is 3in. left at 40yds. which I could care less about. thanks again

Pour it on bros!! I dig it!!

When I sandbag my guns they usually shoot a tiny bit high or more 6 o'clock. At a Manny class a couple years ago he was big on trigger control and taught us the importance of prepping the trigger and that was a big turning point for me. I ditched the overtravel screws and changed trigger inserts and I continue to work hard on the prep-bang- prep bang concept as well as my grip and all fundamentals.2000-2001 I was shooting a few glocks and always had to drift the rear to the right. I still have one of them a G-19 and when I put some "real sights" on it last fall found the rear sight to be perfectly centered.I guess I learned some thing in that time. Of all the guns Ive seen/had and reffered to earlier.... Glocks (owned by people who have learned to shoot) seem to not be like that. I have one freind here locally who has every Glock there is........ he collects them, before he even shoots them he drifts the rear most of the way to the right. I know its him and so does he but he doesnt care.

Thanks Larry, ..............sometimes I pick my nose too and this one time at boot camp.........

Because most shooters are right handed. Shoot those guns left handed off a bench and see where they group. Im gonna try that, just for curiousity!! thanks

Im not saying I am beyond anything.I miss on a regular basis and I am not ashamed of that or afraid to do it again. Geez!! does anybody read the posts they are replying to??? I didnt say this was a huge problem or??? just something Ive noticed on most not All of my guns. Maybe I should have stated that Im only talking about a few clicks or so but it seems to always be to the left as I only have one that is a few clicks to the right.If the error was all mine I would expect to see it with your gun or shooter Xs gun. I have shot most of my buddies guns and if its "sighted in" for them its "sighted in" for me and vice versa. If it was all me how is it I can shoot 3in. groups at 50yds? can bad trigger control/grip be that consistent? I dont think being right handed and left eye dom. is in any way a handicap.

Thanks Chuck, I have also noticed a few rear sights with the notch cut off center to the right 0.10-0.20???? Another thought is torque caused by bullet contacting rifling??

Thats mean ! Acually I thought this was , nevermind, most of us right handers have and are going through this. Thanks guys!! I did not mean to get into a discussion on trigger control. I am not surprized at your responses...I would probably have done the same. Some additional info for you to consider....left eye dom. Lim. M L-10 M I have had GMs shoot my guns too and...ditto. Also they also are curios as to the causes OUTSIDE of human influence wich is why I posted it in stock/production/limited technical.

A question I would love to know the answers to....why do so many guns shoot to the left?? I have had this experience far more often than not. I understand the mechanics of the 1911/2011 to the extent that I have done my own trigger jobs,sight work, milling,fitting safties,triggers,extractors ect,.ect. for years. I have fit a couple barrels that turned out sweet but prefer to let others with better tools/more experience fit most of mine. Out of 6 pisols (2 STIs,1 SV,2 Kimbers and a Para) all but the fixed sighted kimber have the rear sight adusted to the right to some degree. I recently discovered the XD-9 I thought was "out of the box" dead on is actually printing its groups 3 in. left at 40 yds. I once seen a brand new Kimber still be 6in. left at 25 with its rear sight blade all the way to the right...they ended up replacing the barrel..OK Im gettin long here (first post) my question is what are the causes of this..barrel issues, barrel fitting issues,frame issues ?????