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I saw that a couple days ago when I completely disassembled the primer feed mechanism. There was wear at the back of the spring seat area but I should check the rivet and see if there are any witness marks on it. The whole indexer engagement / release /reset seems a little loosey goose to me. If the spring gets out of wack in the least the whole thing come crashing down.

That I will have to try. I always tighten it pretty good. I hope it's that simple!!

My guess is at the top of the stroke since that is the only way I see a force on the index mechanism. The arm is bending and the spring is also getting bent and ruined. I can bend the arm back fairly close but the springs are never the same and it stops indexing without the new spring. Please elaborate on the Primer seating assembly.... i'm not following how on the upstroke the it would cause damage. doesn't the primer wheel disengage the shell plate near the bottom of the stroke and the wheel index at the top of the stroke??? I think I am missing something. Thanks

Doesn't seem to be

Been running win sp but I do have federals. They warn against using them though... and with issues already I'd hate to have a detonation

It's small pistol

Hello - I just picked up a new 650 a month ago and have crushed the Primer Arm Indexer and it's spring 2 times. Dillon is now sending me a third one. the first one lasted about 300 rounds and the last one about 50. I've cleaned and lubricated everything and at this point Dillon helpline asked me to separate the brass in to different head stamps. I think that they are stumped too. I've never owned a 650 before but have run a 550 for 20+ years and I can't see a connection between head stamps and crushing the primer indexing arm.... Looking for any help or suggestions from the Enosphere. Thanks Scott

I have a old 550 and a 1 week old 650 and the difference in Tool head play is substantial. I'll have to measure it but it would explain the difference guys are seeing regarding the effectiveness of the threaded tool heads.

What size are the screws that they use on the clamping kits? #4, #5 or are they metric? Thanks scott

Just going thru some photos from the past hunting season and thought I post this one. I used my Mossberg 930 that I normally use for 3 gun, without all the race gear on it. Converted back to a regular hunting shotgun with a extended Briley Imp. mod Choke, which has been just deadly on waterfowl. And shooting with my Rudy Magsters that I wear for competition shooting. You can get them at www.e-rudy.com and using the PISTOL code get 25% off. If I could just figure out how to improve my pistol shooting by using my 2 labs, boy that would really make me feel like I was getting double duty out of them too.

Just to Update.... Remington replaced the barrel... cracked gas block they said

Thanks Lugnut - the actual string times are great for checking individual times. Dave - That is pretty quick! That would be the ultimate goal though. Thanks a bunch Guys Scott

Thanks Tom. I am running about 16-17 sec on Stage 3 string 1 and 2 and figure that is were I need the most work. Like to get it down to 14-15 sec with of course minimal points down. scott

hey does anyone care to post their stage times for MA in SSR? I have about 4-5 seconds to trim somewhere and would like to get an idea of what Master Class SSR are running so I can focus on my weakness.... which I am guessing is Stage 3. Thanks Scott

Yes I tried different slugs and shot. Using the IC tube that came with the gun. Might be worth while to try a different IC tube, maybe an extended tube. Not running a clamp on the extension but that might be worth trying also. Thanks for the suggestions I'll give them a try this weekend. Scott

Good thread. Anyone have suggestions on how to get the POI with slugs the same as the center of impact of the shot pattern? My shot patterns are off about a foot right and a foot high at 25 yards from the slug impacts. Thanks Scott

PowerFactor has always treated me right. I wish other businesses were as good. Scott

yep looked at Brownells and Midway, did not see anything like them at either place.

I have tools like that, the tool I need is the one used for correcting using that tool too much!!

can anyone tell me where I can get a set of feed lip adjustment pliers? Have been trying to find a set like Dawson sells with their race gun mag tuning kit but I don't need the whole kit to fix non-race gun mags. thanks

I'll try and get a picture that shows it. Have not check to see if it resizes out, just started loading for it and working up a load. Thanks Scott

I have not ID'd the location of the bulge relative to the chamber but plan to do that on Thursday Night. I suspected it might be by the extractor but I might be wrong. I'll make some brass and let you know. Thanks Scott Well I finally had a chance to compare 4 different loads and the locations of the bulge. They are all at the 3 o'clock position looking at the back of the chamber. I loaded and shot from a 150 PF to a 180 PF and they all were in the same locations and the same size. This seems to be a slightly different location than others saw if I am understanding correctly their bulges are at the 6 oclock position if the chamber has been reamed to a larger size. Where were the bulges on the guns that were not reamed? thanks again for all the help!! Scott

So if I understand you correctly it is by the feed ramp? Thanks Scott

Understood, I have access to a machinist....they have all the neat tools....some of it he even lets me play machinist on!!! By the Bottom you are talking about the chamber closest to the rifling correct? Thanks

I have not ID'd the location of the bulge relative to the chamber but plan to do that on Thursday Night. I suspected it might be by the extractor but I might be wrong. I'll make some brass and let you know. Thanks Scott