[Bullseye Load for STI. 40 Edge]

Anyone worked up a good load with Bullseye for a 5"Edge STI. My barrell is a little faster than alot of them. I like a faster burning powder. Also wondering about Clays....The load manuals show 3.5 grains of a 180 grain bullet max, and a velocity of around 890...Wondering if anyone with an Edge has tried this one as well. I'd think that the pressure curve with this powders would be really good in this gun... Should give a snappy shot with fast returns...Any thoughts?? Thanks

[What's the deal with Federal Brass?]

40 S&W

Maximum Case Lenght - .850 This will never change..

Case Dia from back to front - .424 to .420 Thus the tapered crimp/case

Here's something that I've noted about Federal .40 S&W Brass as compared to Winchester brass..These were weighed with the fired primers still in them.

Federal cases generally weigh between 65-67 grains

Winchester cases generally weigh between 70-72 grains.

Note - I picked 10 different cases of each Ferderal and Winchester from a big box of brass at ramdom

This difference in weights can only mean one thing since the case lenght is fixed at.850(unless it's stretched), but it will still weigh the same. Since the lenght is a fixed value(again, assuming cases that have not been trimed - factory or standard cases), then the Federal has to be thinner walled then the Winchesters.

The results - A Federal and Winchester loaded with the same primer, same powder load, same bullet, same crimp, and same OAL will give you different power factors. Since the Federal walls are thinner, there is more internal volume, thus lower chamber pressures, and bullet velocities from the same load. If your're just making(166 or so) power factor with the Winchesters, I'd guess that the Federals will not make Major.

Thinner walled cases loaded to the max PSI(35,000)for 40S&W, COULD give you problems, especially, if you're loading a fast burning powders.....

I'm going to the range this weekend with my crono, and will post results of a 10 shot string of each...

First hand experiance here with Federal .40 Brass...I inspected the rest of my loads and culled all the "FC" headstamps and have not had a problem since...

What were your load specs / powder type?

[Great Read- Unintended Consequences by John Ross]

"To say that the book is a blueprint for murder is misplaced IMO."

+1

Jim, I have to disagree about the last part being out of bounds. With the scenario presented by the book the atf agent was breaking the law to get back at a person that as far as the story was concerned, did not break the law, but had embarrassed the agent. So if it is ok for the fictional character to break the law and use his authority to get his way thru whatever means it took, then it is ok for a fictional character who is the victim to do what is necessary to defend and embarrass a govt. agency. All the book was doing was showing how as govt. gets larger it has groups that abuse the authority and that is the unintended consequence.

+1

All the LEO I personally know are also men of honor.

However, the US government has committed many atrocities including slavery, killing, starving and taking the land of many Native Americans, unscrupulous medical testing on some minorities, imprisonment of an entire race of CITIZENS during WWII, and the list goes on. And the US government is probably the best government in history IMO.

The point is that power in government corrupts and causes unintended consequences. The atrocities can only be committed through the government’s agents. The government, itself, cannot act but through their agents.

To say that the book is a blueprint for murder is misplaced IMO.

[Great Read- Unintended Consequences by John Ross]

You can go to www.accuratepress.net and order the book direct I believe....As far as what we learned in US History..I agree with you there!! Our shools are now teaching more and more "Selective" ideals than ever before, and unfortunely, they are generally very liberal in what they chose to teach. Never mind that our kids can't prey in school any longer or that the ten commandments no longer stand at State captials or courthouse across the country..I'll get off my soap box..If I've offend anyone....Didn't intend too....

Kind of corny in spots but the underlying message is powerful....

I am afraid it might be prophetic.

This book is very hard to get in either Hard or paperback. If you go to amazon or Nobles they will order it but be prepared to wait a long time. It is a good book though. I ended up borrowing a friends copy and read it before I ever got mine.

I read this book about 6 years ago, and then reread it 2 years ago. It is amazing to go to the internet and look up some of these items. They deffinitely never taught us this stuff in US History in High school. I also believe that a time will come in this country when we as citizens will be faced with a really hard decision about guns and other rights. I am also sad that it might be before I pass.

[Great Read- Unintended Consequences by John Ross]

Trevoro quote -

An earlier post, "...not a good book to have on the shelf when big brother comes callin." pretty much sums it up. Its message is extreme in a way that can't be accepted by everyone."

It's message is extreme as far as the fiction part of the book near the end...I'd never suggest that we(as a gun culture) take such extremes as the fictional story line of the book, but I feel that the real message of the book is making the point that if we stand together, and act together(such as support the NRA, the shooting sports fountains and such, making sure that we exerise our right to vote, electing conservative politcian(not the liberals), we can change the direction we are heading as a country...We don't have to stand still and take whatever someone else thinks is good for us...Acting before its too late, not after the deed is already done is what we need to do..Not just set on our "as#@#" hoping that the liberals don't really take our guns...Just my thoughts

And again, by acting, I mean voting, supporting the NRA, and all the other mean to support and protect our rights to bear arms and shooting/hunting sports..I DO NOT advocate, nor indorse the ideal of killing anyone..unless they are about to do myself, love ones, family or friends harm...Then all bets are off......

[Great Read- Unintended Consequences by John Ross]

I can understand how the last 1/3 might bother some people, espically goverment employees, ATF and etc., but remember that in my first post I did mention "keep in mind that it is a work of fiction". I believe that the ultimate message that it delivers is far more powerfull and important to us, than to let the so call "offensive parts" prevent its reading.

I personally don't find it offensive and crude being that its fiction. What I do find offensive was the Brady Bill, Ruby Ridge, and Waco. They really happened....

I personally really enjoyed Dan Brown' , The Da Vinci Code which alot of people found offensive. My Faith is strong enough that I have no problem reading something, enjoying its entertainment value, and sorting out the rest. Alot of people are campaigning against the new movie, "The Golden Compass". While I can understand some of the views, it seems that today so many people believe everything that they see or hear in the media(one of the points in Unintended Consequences).

It seems that some people can't think for themselves!! Read a book or go to the movie, sort out the crap, but enjoy the entertainment values, and learn from the historical views as well.

"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it"

Jim

Currently reading it - interesting book.

[Great Read- Unintended Consequences by John Ross]

For the readers that like historical Fiction, you owe it to yourself to pick up a copy of John Ross's book, "Unintended Consequences". It's a great read that covers alot of the Firearm laws of this country, how they were introduced, for what reasons. It also covers the involvement of our goverments historical infringement upon our rights "to bear arms". Remember that the story line is fiction, but based on alot of historical facts. This is a book that will grab you, and make you think.

Heres the link - http://john-ross.net/

You owe it to yourself to take a look!

Jim

[Early Slide Lock - How to Fix]

I just bought 5 New Super Tuned HS Mags from Shooters Connection for my Dawson Edge .40. I ran into the exact same problem. The two mags I had before both have Dawson followers , and the ones(new ones) from HS have Gram followers. Instead of grinding on my gun(slide stop/lockback), I did what has been suggested here. I took the top end off, inserted the mags and looked where the mag follower was contacting the slide stop. I then used a dremel tool to remove just enough off the followers to keep the follower from making contact with the slide stop. This complete cured my problems, and now I can run the complete 20 rounds thur the mags..Although the slide doesn't lock back now, all I have to do is install a new follower, and the slide locks back in case I ever want to shoot Production, IDPA or etc. This way I don't have to modify a fitted part of my gun.

The gram followers right higher up in the mags than Dawsons followers when used with the Dawson SNL +1 basepads. This allows you to get an easily reloadable 20 in the mag..

Hope this helps..

Jim

[Reloading Costs]

Hey Guys,

Got a quick question for the reloaders out here. I'm currently in the market for a new Dillon XL650, but before I got thur with it, I have to ask what its costing you guys to load .40's. With the price of cases, bullets, powder and primer, does it really save us all that much? After all, Montona Gold 180 grain .40s are currently $125 per 1000, not including shipping. Thats .125 cent a round in just the bullet. That only leaves roughly .08 cents per round, or you can just go buy them at $20 per box down at the local gun shop and spend more time shooting and less thime reloading. Besides the fact that alot of us enjoy relaoding, I can't hardely see where we are saving alot of money by reloading. Any thoughts here?

Thanks Jim

[Holster for STI Edge?]

Thanks!! Going to see if they have any left tomorrow..I've been out of the game for 6 or 7 years, and wanted to try something besides my old 011..Hear the Guga Ribas are the best...Jim

[Holster for STI Edge?]

I'm new here, and hate to ask a stupid question, but who is SSI...I'd like to buy a Guga Ribas for my new Dawson Edge..Thanks Jim