tac_driver Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 What is the difference if any from the 38spcl case to 38spcl+p case? I would like to duplicate the speer 125gr gold dot +p defensive round for my S&W 640 2 1/8" barrel. I will be using Win231 powder what powder weight can you reconmmend for this round? I'm still new to reloading, and i know you people have a lot of tried and true experience in this field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirpy Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Check out the following for data... data.hodgdon.com from there you can find data for WW231. Be Careful and good luck Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce282 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 (edited) From the Staline Brass website. 38 SPL+P has no difference from the standard 38 SPL, other than headstamp designation for load segregation. Due to standard case design, will handle +P pressures with no problems. Just remember YMMV. Bruce Edited May 13, 2008 by bruce282 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kframe_mike Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Sometimes,not always,you'll run into +P cases that are a little thicker.But than again,some of the standard P can be thicker too.Bottem line,no worries mon( unless its causing you chambering problems).-Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 What is the difference if any from the 38spcl case to 38spcl+p case? I would like to duplicate the speer 125gr gold dot +p defensive round for my S&W 640 2 1/8" barrel. I will be using Win231 powder what powder weight can you reconmmend for this round? I'm still new to reloading, and i know you people have a lot of tried and true experience in this field. Hi & welcome tacdriver. ABove posts answer the Q. You mentioned that you are new to reloading. .38 special is a GREAT place to start, as it is very safe to reload. Why? -The .38 is so old that is started out as a black powder cartridge. As a result, there are some REALLY old guns chambered in .38 - and the reloading companies know that their data could possibly be used with some old guns. As a result, the data is conservative. Follow the book or the website and you will be fine in the knowledge that there is a wide safety margin for the .38 special. Another advantage to starting with .38 Special is that revolvers are not subject to "bullet set-back" - which can happen with semi-autos. Once you start reloading ammo for semi-autos, check back with us w/ any questions. Regards, C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkin Chunker Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 What is the difference if any from the 38spcl case to 38spcl+p case? I'm still new to reloading, and i know you people have a lot of tried and true experience in this field. Hi & welcome tacdriver. ABove posts answer the Q. Another advantage to starting with .38 Special is that revolvers are not subject to "bullet set-back" - which can happen with semi-autos. Regards, C. But revolver bullets can be subject to working forward out of the case under recoil if your crimp isn't sufficient, esp. w/+P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tac_driver Posted May 17, 2008 Author Share Posted May 17, 2008 What is the difference if any from the 38spcl case to 38spcl+p case? I'm still new to reloading, and i know you people have a lot of tried and true experience in this field. Hi & welcome tacdriver. ABove posts answer the Q. Another advantage to starting with .38 Special is that revolvers are not subject to "bullet set-back" - which can happen with semi-autos. Regards, C. But revolver bullets can be subject to working forward out of the case under recoil if your crimp isn't sufficient, esp. w/+P. Thanks for the welcome I'm using the Lee classic turret press with the Lee factory crimp die. I seat and crimp in seperate stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tac_driver Posted May 26, 2008 Author Share Posted May 26, 2008 I chronographed my 38spl +p rounds today. Results: caliber - 38spl +P weapon - S&W 640 .357/.38 2 1/8" Barrel Bullet - Speer 125gr. GoldDot Powder - 5.8gr. Hodgdon Universal Clays Primer - WSP Case - Win 38spl Brass (once fired) OAL - 1.440 Avg. Vel. - 819fps - ES - 79.07 - SD - 40.33 Accuracy - Very Good Recoil - Managable Comments: No flattened primers or any other pressure signs, powder burned complete and clean. Thanks for all of your help my only hope is to be able to return the favor someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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