Problems With New 150 Federal Large Pistol Primers ?

[Round_Gun_Shooter]

Well, it's not just because the gun got dirty. This is not a pipe cleaner problem, fellas.

Shoepop's C&S firing pin was sticking in its channel because (1) it had become peened and distorted because it's too soft, or (2) it was improperly sized from the start.

Did I miss something Mike???? I have not seen where Shoepop ever said it was a C&S pin.

You jumped on it stating

Very glad you figured out the problem, and it's great that John and Randy were able to help with the solution. I'm going to take a wild guess here that you had one of those C&S extended-length firing pins installed in your gun. Am I right????

but it was never confirmed on here that I can find.

I use the C&S pin. I had a lot of trouble with the earlier ones as I did with the earlier S&W pins. They were sized a little too close. A tapered broach to the firing pin bushing and some polishing to the pin solved the problem. (I think the broach was the actual solution but I did both)

The newer C&S pins and the newer S&W pins are better. Both are smoother with less variation. I keep pins of both manufacturer with springs and retainer pins in my kit as I see them as the weak point on the new design. I also see the need to clean the bushing more frequently.

I would like to know if Shoepop actually had a C&S pin or not. Can it be confirmed?? If so, how old was the one he had.

Merry Christmas,

Gary

[Carmoney]

Gary, I too am waiting for Shoepop to mention whether it was a C&S firing pin, but I'm pretty sure John R. (who identified the problem) would have quickly told us if this had involved a stock factory pin.

Shoepop's problems are incredibly consistent with the problems I have experienced with the C&S pins. I can't imagine a factory pin being worn flat on the end like that.

Merry Chistmas to you as well!

Mike

Edited December 21, 2005 by Carmoney

[Shoepop]

I'm back from the dead or at least I thought the flu I had was gonna kill me! Ok, what I do know. It was a C&S pin. My log shows 12K + rounds down range and at least that dry fire. I clean my revolver with a Crest ultrasonic and lube it with same. After which I drip dry, run a patch through barrel and cylinder holes, spray FP & channel with brake cleaner, blow out with compressed air, check the strain screw, open the cylinder, stick my fore finger over the FP bushing and cycle it around a time or two to check if I'm getting a good FP hit and go. The 625 ran 100% up until the problem. It was so reliable I took it for granted, MISTAKE. Had I just looked in the right place I would have noticed the problem. It will not happen in the future. I even carried/carry a spare FP in my range bag! Now I will remove the side plate, pull FP/spring clean the channel and check everything every thousand rounds or so. I can also do a visual of the tip everytime I pick it up. I personally like the C&S FP and will just start considering it a wear item like the recoil spring in a bottom feeder. Thank you for all the input folks. It IS appreciated. Mark in NM

[Carmoney]

Well, in any case, glad you got your problem fixed Mark, and especially glad it wasn't a problem with our good ol' favorite Federal primers!

[Waltermitty]

Well, in any case, glad you got your problem fixed Mark, and especially glad it wasn't a problem with our good ol' favorite Federal primers!

Yep, if Federal ever goes out of the primer business we're in deep kimchi.