goldilocks Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Last night I loaded the first 500 9mm rounds on my new xl650. Towards the end of the session I could feel some wobble through the handle, and eventually the press stopped indexing, and I couldn't complete the downstroke. I took the shelplate off and found the 2 platform mounting bolts were loose. My questions are: Can I simply tighten the bolts up, or does the platform need some kind of alignment first? Could this have affected the powder in the rounds I made while the platform was loose (I looked in every case, so I know they all have "roughly" the same amount of powder)? If so, can anyone recommend an efficient way of pulling 500 bullets?? Thanks Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie j Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 There is a platform alignment tool, call dillon they gave me one one time . As far as powder goes I hesitate to tell you all is well , but I can't really see how a loose platform would effect powder throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCGLOCK Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Did you 'spot' check every 50 or 100 or so rounds for powder weight and oal? I do this so I'll know to stop if I have something out of whack. Yea, call Dillon for the aliment tool, it's FREE. Did you try just tightening the bolts and see if it indexes correct before calling Dillon. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldilocks Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Did you 'spot' check every 50 or 100 or so rounds for powder weight and oal? I do this so I'll know to stop if I have something out of whack. Yea, call Dillon for the aliment tool, it's FREE. Did you try just tightening the bolts and see if it indexes correct before calling Dillon. Greg I checked the powder weight randomly as I went, o.a.l. looks to be fairly good too. I wouldn't know where to call for an alignment tool, I live in Austria! I tightened the bolts up, and the shellplate indexes Ok. The press doesn't feel as smooth as before, but that could be me imagining things. Matt Edited January 19, 2012 by goldilocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCGLOCK Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Did you 'spot' check every 50 or 100 or so rounds for powder weight and oal? I do this so I'll know to stop if I have something out of whack. Yea, call Dillon for the aliment tool, it's FREE. Did you try just tightening the bolts and see if it indexes correct before calling Dillon. Greg I checked the powder weight randomly as I went, o.a.l. looks to be fairly good too. I wouldn't know where to call for an alignment tool, I live in Austria! I tightened the bolts up, and the shellplate indexes Ok. The press doesn't feel as smooth as before, but that could be me imagining things. Matt great, sometimes if the index 'feels' a little off because of the loose bolts on the platform, you might be OK without the alignment tool and just tightening up the bolts. if it feels different (not as smooth), did you over tighten the center bolt on the shellplate to much? Greg Edited January 19, 2012 by SCGLOCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldilocks Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Did you 'spot' check every 50 or 100 or so rounds for powder weight and oal? I do this so I'll know to stop if I have something out of whack. Yea, call Dillon for the aliment tool, it's FREE. Did you try just tightening the bolts and see if it indexes correct before calling Dillon. Greg I checked the powder weight randomly as I went, o.a.l. looks to be fairly good too. I wouldn't know where to call for an alignment tool, I live in Austria! I tightened the bolts up, and the shellplate indexes Ok. The press doesn't feel as smooth as before, but that could be me imagining things. Matt great, sometimes if the index 'feels' a little off because of the loose bolts on the platform, you might be OK without the alignment tool and just tightening up the bolts. if it feels different (not as smooth), did you over tighten the center bolt on the shellplate to much? Greg I made sure the shellplate bolt was loose enough to allow the shellplate to turn smoothly. I think some of the roughness is caused by the ring indexer. The bottom part of that is dented, maybe from me trying to operate the handle once the shellplate was stuck. I expect I can sand the edge of the plastic smooth again. There is a very slight grinding noise when I operate the handle, I lubricated the Mainshaft, but that didn't help much. I'll loctite the platform mount bolts so this doesn't happen again! Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCGLOCK Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Did you 'spot' check every 50 or 100 or so rounds for powder weight and oal? I do this so I'll know to stop if I have something out of whack. Yea, call Dillon for the aliment tool, it's FREE. Did you try just tightening the bolts and see if it indexes correct before calling Dillon. Greg I checked the powder weight randomly as I went, o.a.l. looks to be fairly good too. I wouldn't know where to call for an alignment tool, I live in Austria! I tightened the bolts up, and the shellplate indexes Ok. The press doesn't feel as smooth as before, but that could be me imagining things. Matt great, sometimes if the index 'feels' a little off because of the loose bolts on the platform, you might be OK without the alignment tool and just tightening up the bolts. if it feels different (not as smooth), did you over tighten the center bolt on the shellplate to much? Greg I made sure the shellplate bolt was loose enough to allow the shellplate to turn smoothly. I think some of the roughness is caused by the ring indexer. The bottom part of that is dented, maybe from me trying to operate the handle once the shellplate was stuck. I expect I can sand the edge of the plastic smooth again. There is a very slight grinding noise when I operate the handle, I lubricated the Mainshaft, but that didn't help much. I'll loctite the platform mount bolts so this doesn't happen again! Matt You don't have a 'spare parts' kit? That would have the 'index ring' in there. I would still call Dillon. I've seen Dillon send out Free replacement parts to customers out of the US. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT1 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Question: Can one inspect the tightness when setting up a new 650 and check to make sure they are snug without fouling up the alignment? I have a new XL 650 on the way(Thanks Mr Enos!) and it seems odd that they just don't throw the alignment tool in with an addendum explaining to check from the start. :/ Edited January 20, 2012 by GT1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCGLOCK Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Question: Can one inspect the tightness when setting up a new 650 and check to make sure they are snug without fouling up the alignment? I have a new XL 650 on the way(Thanks Mr Enos!) and it seems odd that they just don't throw the alignment tool in with an addendum explaining to check from the start. :/ All NEW Dillon's are inspected/tested and I believe put together after order for the caliber you choose. So, I would believe the alignment should be fine. If it indexes correctly, it's fine. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngeyes Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Did you 'spot' check every 50 or 100 or so rounds for powder weight and oal? I do this so I'll know to stop if I have something out of whack. Yea, call Dillon for the aliment tool, it's FREE. Did you try just tightening the bolts and see if it indexes correct before calling Dillon. Greg I checked the powder weight randomly as I went, o.a.l. looks to be fairly good too. I wouldn't know where to call for an alignment tool, I live in Austria! I tightened the bolts up, and the shellplate indexes Ok. The press doesn't feel as smooth as before, but that could be me imagining things. Matt I have an extra alignment tool. If you find you need it I'll send it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldilocks Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Did you 'spot' check every 50 or 100 or so rounds for powder weight and oal? I do this so I'll know to stop if I have something out of whack. Yea, call Dillon for the aliment tool, it's FREE. Did you try just tightening the bolts and see if it indexes correct before calling Dillon. Greg I checked the powder weight randomly as I went, o.a.l. looks to be fairly good too. I wouldn't know where to call for an alignment tool, I live in Austria! I tightened the bolts up, and the shellplate indexes Ok. The press doesn't feel as smooth as before, but that could be me imagining things. Matt I have an extra alignment tool. If you find you need it I'll send it to you. Thanks for the kind offer. It indexes ok, so I'll try it for a while and see how it behaves. I like the press, and it is solidly built, just a shame they didn't check that all the bolts were done up properly! After buying a press that cost over 800 euros, I didn't think I would need to take it apart and rebiuld it before starting to reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCGLOCK Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Did you 'spot' check every 50 or 100 or so rounds for powder weight and oal? I do this so I'll know to stop if I have something out of whack. Yea, call Dillon for the aliment tool, it's FREE. Did you try just tightening the bolts and see if it indexes correct before calling Dillon. Greg I checked the powder weight randomly as I went, o.a.l. looks to be fairly good too. I wouldn't know where to call for an alignment tool, I live in Austria! I tightened the bolts up, and the shellplate indexes Ok. The press doesn't feel as smooth as before, but that could be me imagining things. Matt I have an extra alignment tool. If you find you need it I'll send it to you. Thanks for the kind offer. It indexes ok, so I'll try it for a while and see how it behaves. I like the press, and it is solidly built, just a shame they didn't check that all the bolts were done up properly! After buying a press that cost over 800 euros, I didn't think I would need to take it apart and rebiuld it before starting to reload. You mean it's NEW? Wow and the platform bolts were not tighten? If you didn't but it from Dillon I would inform Dillon about whoever sold that 650 to you. I'm sure Dillon wouldn't want that to happen. Heck, I would inform Dillon no matter what. New presses shouldn't be like that. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT1 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 You mean it's NEW?Wow and the platform bolts were not tighten? I've read every 650 press post in the 100+ pages here in the last couple days. The platform bolt loosening issue and the obligatory 'call dillon for the alignment tool' answer is quite common, hence my previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCGLOCK Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 You mean it's NEW?Wow and the platform bolts were not tighten? I've read every 650 press post in the 100+ pages here in the last couple days. The platform bolt loosening issue and the obligatory 'call dillon for the alignment tool' answer is quite common, hence my previous post. My press was NEW back in the beginning of November 2011 and my platform bolts were fine. I did break an index ring and had to call Dillon for a replacement and the alignment tool came with it. But, my press was fine right from the start. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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