Miranda
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If I did advocate for making primers, I don't for powder.
Making powder, while easier, requires enough volume that it becomes a bit more dangerous.
It takes a while to get consistent. I also am wary of the result from the chemicals in a double base.
from previous primer shortages, once the primers reappear, the powders get tight.
Ah well, I am outta rifle powder... dingit.
miranda
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posting to keep track of this thread...
I want a collator. the simplicity of the vibra-prime is tempting
and for the price I can hope the rf-100 is a good unit. (It has a good rep.)
my tinkerers soul wants to get a close look at the DAA unit
and the reports are all over the map. so I am not springing for a new one.
I still fill by hand because I do not like shaking or rattling primers.
I think I'd like a unit to have a mild hum and no other clicks or clacks.
it is a challenging task to automate.
miranda
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potential issues...
the only one I can think may catch you off guard...
do not go to a larger diameter bullet without lowering the powder.
plated and jacketed bullets will perform differently
basicly, jacketed bullets perform as a larger diameter for the same measurement as plated.
and the usual disclaimer--> all else kept the same.
miranda
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hmmmm.
only because you got me thinking...
grounding the press has gained you a large improvement.
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if static is the cause, running the press fast generates enough static
to have the problem rise again.
this is what I'd do to test that idea.
use alu foil because it can be placed under the hopper lid
take a strip about 3/8 inch wide and have one end go into the powder
up over the top of the hopper and replace the lid
the other end set against a metal part of the press.
that should give the static in the powder a path to lose energy/static.
If static is the problem, that should get the last out.
most powder has a graphite coat to fight against a static build up.
I use aluminium tape for this, and I started it as a way to
keep the hopper lid a bit more firmly in place.
luck
miranda
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when on the press does the adjuster for the measure bump into anything?
another idea that crossed my mind.
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4 hours ago, jmac2112 said:
Thanks for the replies! I should have specified, however, that what really matters is how fast the powder measure is activated, NOT how much time I allow for the powder to drop once it is fully activated. In other words, if the drum begins its clockwise motion too quickly, that's what causes a light charge. To me, that doesn't seem to make sense, because the cavity in the drum has had plenty of time to fill. The only thing I can imagine is that centrifugal force could be flinging the powder upward into the hopper, but that seems pretty far-fetched.
None of this would matter if it weren't for the fact that I have to actuate the drum REALLY, REALLY slowly in order to get the full charge. "Gingerly" might be the best word for it. Bizarre.
ok, my problem and that solution are not your problem.
you are about to start a "how do i flipping fix this problem device"
research project.
your problem is filling the measuring cup.
the speed of rotation can't fling powder out because the powder is
supposed to be weighing on the drum and once in motion
the side of the drum keeps the powder.
To fling needs open space to toss the powder.
because I do not know what is before you,
here are some obvious ideas.
look for obstructions in the intake to the measure and down in the throat
look for the measure being in the correct stop
the mouth of the cup should be a straight shot in there.
your description is most consistant with
the drum not getting to open. buuut it is possible to overshoot the opening
and you may have a tooth in the gears that is jammed somehow.
miranda
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speed does have an effect of any automatic powder dispenser.
the lee auto-drum... is timed such that there is little open/dump time
at the top of the stroke.
If the dispenser had an over run area where the dump opened sooner
and then stayed open, that would create more time in the stroke for the drop.
I pulled the handle to the bottom and counted one-onethousand
because it took that long to fill the 223 case.
If speed of reloading is important, use a different powder drop.
the gears and slides and stops were not designed to take what
a 650 can pound out. I had two extenders on the drop and I like it.
The auto drum came out of the rifle side of reloading,
that works is often done on a single die press
I loaded 223 at more than 400 RPM so the drop is not a slouch.
some one here had drum with what I believe was
a broken gear set and I wanted to get a hold of it and try
some ideas. when I restart my loading I may order a victim to tinker.
I have not had any powder cross check fail from the dispenser
the weights are more consistent than with the auto-disk and the dillon
(I did not test 223 dispensing, just pistol)
so you can have a benefit if you can stay within design limits.
miranda
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try a search for 650 primer and see what you get...
the one item I remember is that primer compound dust is another source
for problems. so clean the primer tubes with a bore snake or a patch.
I do not use a vibrating primer filler or any other primer collator.
my patches all had a yellow ring after swabbing out the tubes.
so clean the priming system every so often, and more often
should you be using a mechanical aid to fill primer tubes.
... and I think the 750 is Dillon's attempt to improve the priming system.
it is likely an improvement, I just want to avoid feeling like I should replace my 650.
I have been told static discharges will easily light a primer
consider adding static dissipation items to your safety equipment.
miranda
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I size my cast lead to 357
This is the biggest I can fit into a case and have it chamber.
lube is carnuba, wax, and alox
The FC cases seem to be required.
miranda
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On 12/9/2023 at 7:00 PM, ColoradoNick said:
Don't they limit how much you can order? I'm just not interested in having to constantly check a website when there are other bullet makers that offer the same product with better availability and sometimes even a better price. Honest question what makes MG special?
Do you mean collect 100k dollars worth of a component at cost? I'm not a manufacturer so no.... that doesn't make much sense. I do have enough components to reload for a couple of years though at my current rate of 25-30k rounds a year.
Hi ColoradoNick,
yeah there are often limits on large volume orders.
I suspect you can get all you can afford, the limit often has
the factory production as a reason.
I suspect if you contacted any bullet maker, they could find a way to supply you with
the volume you seek in short order.
the nest question, is more difficult to answer
I screwed up my multiplication and added or lost a zero.
I was pretty much pointing out that a lot of inventory can be a lot of tied up cash.
A 125 Gn bullet is 56 bullets per pound
100k bullets is 1785 pounds of bullets.
if something besides 125 Gn bullets are going fast,
the 125s are useless inventory.
Far better to have not made them.
it was an attempt to point out there is little reason for MG to play inventory games.
I like MG bullets...
they seem to be consistent.
worth the small addition?
yeah.
AND...I can only state that I tend to make my own bullets.
so that opinion has some age on it.
MG may have changed since my last purchase.
I can understand not wanting to check availability.
Assume the bullets are available and order.
they make the inventory...
miranda
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Hi Nolan,
A few years I was at a Cabin Fever show and looking
at a booth selling a CAD/CAM package...
one of the features was an exploded diagram rendering facility.
I did note that some one was going to need to compile the drawings
to get it to explode? ( the software had layers and file orientation annotations)
mostly I was thinking that some one would need to order it done
even if it were easier than eating pie.
Thus I still think it will be a long time before it becomes common.
I once thought it was 'normal' as I had a mop that came with one.
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the death of drafting is what I see as the most direct reason for the lack of exploded diagrams.
In a few more decades I expect better software will generate those.
The folks at FA are dealing with what I think is normal Chinese QC problems.
The most accurate description is "none."
From what I can tell, the press looks like a good design.
How FA attends to the QC issues for the users is going
to be the make or break point for future sales.
At this rate I may have one a lot sooner than I expected initially.
As this is a new product, perhaps getting a 'problem press' back from a customer
is an excellent way to evaluate both press design and manufacturing issues
... an ongoing process of improving the product?
It also can be a source for parts for the very few presses that fail.
miranda
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oh daymn!
it is real!
well done.
Farmer has a point...
"Some guy's wife pissed off at him?? "
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doan mattr much for the press.
be careful out there.
and this thread is quite funny.
miranda
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"a disassembled grease zerk"
ok...
how does one do that?
I know you can get a ball out of a ball point pen by careful squeezing.
zerks seem a bit too big for that method.
miranda
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that is a hard tale to hear unfold.
to be clear, I believe you and think it a poor response.
I pretty much decided C.S. was just stating they will not sell parts.
I also came to the conclusion that the take a photo of the missing part
was a way to avoid stating we have no parts.
the good news is that they are sold out of presses.
(none to use as parts machines.)
mostly I am wondering if they will stay in the press biz.
that response will make it harder to sell more.
miranda
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On 8/9/2023 at 5:15 PM, dtuns said:
Motors with brushes spark around the brushes when they run.
The motor is an induction type. often used for box fans and small appliances.
They do not have brushes to spark and while the coils can fail and spark,
that problem usually causes to motor to stop.
miranda
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ok... preventing that fire.
Pretty much any aerosol-can creates an air-fuel mix that will burn.
As an item of note, the propellant is often propane. (am not sure in this case.)
Source of sparks? The only item involved that will absolutely spark is the
switch to stop and start the motor. Other on and off 120 volt switches can.
Past that there is nothing easily tested to recreate the fire.
the motor has a fan so any air-fuel will get stirred. Perhaps a static spark
started there.
Mostly I can't see how the air-fuel got into the switch to start the flame.
The CO2 extinguisher is a good idea, be careful with it in an enclosed room.
Make sure you can get to fresh air.
It is a good lesson about why to keep lids on powder.
I use one-shot... so I am thinking apply it outside.
yow.
miranda
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what you can do.
your recipe
125 gn lead conical bullet
4.5 gn hp-38
1.124 oal...
you target photo will not load for me...
your loading is at about the end of the book advice I have.
If you think more accuracy is possible...
if power factor is not an issue, try varying just the powder to 4.2 gn
one change and give em a solid run. see if you notice anything.
I have a very mild, most accuracy center... hp jacketed 124 gn oal 1.30 and 4.3gn hp-38 powder
more powder seemed like less control. lead bullets can be a problem for accuracy in any case,
miranda
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5 hours ago, dansedgli said:
How can the FCD which sizes the fat side of a 9mm case swage a bullet which fits into the skinny end?
It's tapered.
In 40 it might, but 9mm? Doubt.
HesedTech covers it well.
If you want to test it yourself...
get a thick 9mm case like the A USA case mentioned. S&B are similar in my experience.
Then repeat what the OP did. Use a lead bullet if at all possible.
Slowly press the bullet and case into the FCD. Stop when you feel any resistance.
If your setup is like most, this will be the removal of the bell.
mark the case with a sharpie after you remove just the bell.
a black case is the goal here because you will need to see where the FCD
crimps the case.
now do the crimp and note the next place where you get resistance.
the sharpie marks should still be on the top of the case, a ring near the base of the bullet
and usually, a ring near the bottom of the case.
With my lead bullets, it was rare the bullet did not fall out of the case.
Try that test.
If you used .356 or larger lead base bullet you will see the same result I had.
Oooooof when you can't figure out why you have loose bullets in your cases,
you start checking every little thing to sort out what is causing the problem.
miranda
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ah Stick, the love does exist for the FCD.
when I have Jacketed bullets, that die is worth using.
Buuuut, It does swage lead bullets. and that is bad.
the bullets will fall out and the few that don't will setback.
use the taper die on Lead coated and plated. your life will be better.
ETA, I have tested this very carefully. please believe the others who have said the same.
I was very frustrated during the process of sorting that out.
To the OP, use that brass for other bullets the inside taper of the case is the problem.
said to reinforce what was already said.
If they plunk into your pistol, run 'em.
miranda
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no hurry for many reasons It can be fun to follow such restorations.
Should you go that way? please share some highlights.
luck!
miranda
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an excellent way to learn gunsmithing?
I think the finish the pistol will have is the only consideration.
question the person who says 'sentimental value' closely as to that.
I recommend you state it will better if it never is fired again.
Then keep the firing pin out (if it has one)
finding parts will be a struggle and expect to make what you can't find.
once you learn how, springs are not hard to make.
miranda
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ok I won't quote fer the bell...
I'll find a way to accept that others make a bigger pile o bullets...
I have no idea why I've not purchased RMR bullets.
the statement of stock levels is of note...
MG has not given me the impression they were a large outfit.
That is based on very little evidence.
they are certainly larger than any Biz I've run.
If I understood, in the past they have stated supply side problems.
That could be anything.
They also have said, during shortages, place an order and they will confirm
when they expect to ship.
last... they may move many millions and there is little chance we would know that volume.
I liked what I got.
miranda
Dillon XL750 Sizing Problem, Need A Pro Here
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are both alignment pins out? I know some have said they use only one.
miranda