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    Would it be worth it?

    in Open Pistols

    Posted

    i don't like the mounts that go on the slide. totally screws up my grip
    rather have it milled into the slide. can't stand having the mount on top in the rear sight cut.
    That is why i bought a glock.

    So far I have a gun I can shoot in open with a dot on it and it only cost me an extra $185 including the mount and the sight was NIB. I think I would prefer to have it milled into the slide, but that can be done on a gun that I have built up from the ground. In the mean time, having it mounted in the bomar cut is very cost effective and still MUCH lower than a C More. I am glad you enjoy your glock, and sorry the bomar mount is not for you, but I like it and it is EASY to swap back and forth from open to limited.

    Would it be worth it?

    in Open Pistols

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    I got the JPoint installed last night, I think I am really gonna like it. It sits much lower than a CMore and points almost as naturally as the irons. Now I gotta find the time to sight it in. I will try to post pics tonight.

    Would it be worth it?

    in Open Pistols

    Posted

    Unless I'm missing something, if you don't want to drill your SVI frame for a c-more mount then you have to get a slide ride type dot. If you do that you'll have to have you slide cut for the dot or get another topend for you gun. If your going to get another topend for your gun why not get a 38 super or 9mm fitted with a slide ride dot. Pull pin, take off limited setup put on open setup put pin back.

    Yes, you must have missed something. I can get a Dr./JPoint sight for the gun, and for an extra $40 I can get the mount for it that fits in the Bomar rear cut. No need to drill or cut anything. :cheers:

    Ah....yes, but it wouldn't be as low as the front sight is now. The cool thing, and I'm sure you know this already, is the melted dots get almost as low as that front sight so the indexing is about the same. But if your just going to shoot it for sheeeitz and giggles all you would need to do is drop in a comped barrel move the sight to the doctor and go....damnit now you have me thinking again and it hurts.

    Do you have a link for that mount?

    http://www.eabco.com/cgi-bin/shopper.exe?p...&key=135-BM

    I just scored a J Point on ebay this morning, I think I will mount it up and try it as is for a match and see how I like it. If I like the dot, time to get the barrel etc.

    Would it be worth it?

    in Open Pistols

    Posted

    Unless I'm missing something, if you don't want to drill your SVI frame for a c-more mount then you have to get a slide ride type dot. If you do that you'll have to have you slide cut for the dot or get another topend for you gun. If your going to get another topend for your gun why not get a 38 super or 9mm fitted with a slide ride dot. Pull pin, take off limited setup put on open setup put pin back.

    Yes, you must have missed something. I can get a Dr./JPoint sight for the gun, and for an extra $40 I can get the mount for it that fits in the Bomar rear cut. No need to drill or cut anything. :cheers:

    Would it be worth it?

    in Open Pistols

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    Found it!!!

    USPSA web page classified adds.

    In case you don't know:

    Click 'members' at the top of the main page, enter the username and password (from the Front Sight magazine, pm me if you don't have it handy.)

    Click 'classified' on the right.

    2nd page, add number 12945

    I saw that too, but I don't want to have it fitted to my SV, nor do I have a lower to put it on, nor would I be willing to drill my SV frame for the cmore mount.

    I think the guys were suggesting shooting 40 open by getting a new barrel with comp fitted. Thats why they were suggesting loads. Actually if I remember right my smith told me I could swap out my 40 limited barrel with a comped 40 barrel. The only thing was that the slide was cut so the barrel would stick out just a little bit more. If you decided to do that and go that route it would be a pain in the a$$ to switch back and forth because of the sights. Most sights just don't slide in real easy. If you really don't plan on changing them out for a yr then it wouldn't be that bad.

    Is your gun a full dustcover gun and a full profile slide??? I personally like a heavy gun. I have a full length dustcover and a Unique slide. The slide was lightend and just a bit cut off the dustcover but its a pretty heavy gun.

    So if you went 40 open

    You would need a barrel and comp fitted, 170mm mag and a red dot. Some 135gr bullets also. Thats about all you need. If you did this just remember your slide would be cut just a bit shorter and might get less out of it if you go to sell it.

    If you went with a 9mm or 38super you need barrel, comp, new dies, mags and red dot. The mags will add quite a bit of money.

    Either way is fine especially if your not wanting to dump alot of money into it. The next best option is buying a used Open gun. If you watch you can find a great deal between this forum and the Uspsa classifieds. This is of course assuming you want to save your money.

    Flyin

    I doubt I would have much problem getting at .40 barrel that is comped as mine is a sight tracker. But if I am gonna do it, I might as well do it in 9mm for additional capacity. I am still waiting to hear back from SV for the price to convert it. It is a full dust cover as well, the one on the right in my avatar.

    Would it be worth it?

    in Open Pistols

    Posted

    Lee, I will take you up on that offer. I too am sure that I would eventually want to get a dedicated open gun... eventually. Let me know what the ammo cost will be, and if you have enough mags for me to shoot it and I would love to give it a shot. (pun intended)

    Would it be worth it?

    in Open Pistols

    Posted

    The one concern might be the breach face. If you are going to convert to Open and leave it that way for a while it would probably be fine. But if you plan to switch back and forth between Open and Limited you could possibly run into a problem. Those breach faces should be lock-tighted in (most of the guys I know use the green stuff) and I think if you are constantly heating and removing and replacing and removing and.....

    Well you may end up loosening things up in there such that the breach face will just be working itself loose on you all the time. You might be further ahead to just set up a dedicated top end and switch back and forth that way. Perhaps you could find a good second hand unit (maybe someone switching from Open to Standard??)that would suit your price point.

    Ok, this makes more sense, but I really would not be swapping much. Maybe once a year, sticking with open for a year, then back to limited the next year... etc. At that point I could most likely buy a new SV open gun, which I would prefer over a used STI or Para.

    Would it be worth it?

    in Open Pistols

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    "worth it" - that's totally a personal decision but hopefully we can help provide you some things to think about. I don't have much money, but I saved for a while and sold off a lot of things to afford my JPL Open Gun (my first custom gun). I just shot my first match with it, came in 8th out of 8 in Open. Was it worth it? TOTALLY!

    Try some friends open guns out. Maybe you've got a buddy who'd even swap guns with you for a match. If you decide to play open, I'd agree with Jake - do it right from the start. Otherwise you could end up with a lot of frustrations and regrets. Save up for it!

    ~Mitch

    Once again... where is my plan not "right"... I keep hearing "do it right from the start" but no one is saying what "right" is. If I did what I am talking about, I would have a factory SV open gun... please show me where someone has said that is not "right"? Are you saying that I would be handicapped because of the weight of the gun? Or the sight, and remember I would still shoot limited some too so the lower sight would make it easier for me to switch back and forth.

    Would it be worth it?

    in Open Pistols

    Posted

    I don't see any down side. I would suggest this though; Rather than get a new slide/barrel etc. Why not just start with a Docter/Bomar mounting plate ? Then just shoot the gun with the exact same ammo/setup as you have now. The only difference is you now have a dot instead of iron-sight. This will tell you if the dot is the right way to go for what you want. If it is then proceed with the rest of your plan. If it does not work for you then you can sell the Docter/Bomar mount and be back to where you are now.

    I think using the same frame etc. is a good idea if you decide to proceed. We can't all afford complete guns/setup so all things considered I personally think your plan is reasonable.

    I too thought about just putting the dot on first, I may end up trying that. And like I said, if I do really like it, I will have a dedicated open gun built but I just don't have that kinda money right now.

    Would it be worth it?

    in Open Pistols

    Posted

    If you want to go open, your best bet is to do it right from the start.

    Making compromises with your equipment is not the place to save money....trust me.

    Oh, I hear this all the time. Usually from the same group of guys that spent another $5k to save 3 more ounces on their racing bicycles.

    Frankly, it scares away a lot of potential shooters that could become life members.

    I made B-Class with a cheap Chinese 1911, some $15 mags, and a used safariland rig that cost $30. Every week I beat the snot out of people with $6000 guns and gear. Yea, I my gun doesn't feed SWC, so I use RN. I tune my mags with a pair of plyers.

    I know it is no fun to have a jam-o-matic, but you can make comprimises and still get a good gun.

    I say all this with a smile and a grin, in a friendly way (since you can't hear or see me).

    I think you should borrow an open gun and try it out, more than once. Ask around at your local match. A lot of people have spares. If you like it, then consider how to get there.

    There is a big difference between the J-Point and C-More. If you can, try both before you buy. It seems a little expensive to pay for a J-Point type sight, just to try open.

    I just saw a 38 super top-end for sale here last week. I can't find the post, but it had everything but a barrel link and a couple 140mm mags. Oh, and personally, I wouldn't hesitate to drill and tap my frame for a scope mount. If you don't like open, you can install some nice button-head screws in the holes.

    If you want to switch back-n-forth weekly, the j-point type sight is probably best.

    P.S. Do you like Glocks? I think there's an open glock with all the trimmings for under $1000 for sale right now!

    I don't dislike Glocks, but I LOVE my SV. I would prefer to stick with the S_I platform.

    As for "doing it right" the first time... I don't understand how this option is really that bad? First off, the gun is a factory SV, and the only things I would have to change are the sight, and the barrel (plus extractor, etc.). The only thing about it that would be "wrong for open" is the fact that it is a full length dust cover and it might be a little heavy. I have shot open guns before, just not for a whole match. I do know that I like them, but I am not the biggest fan of the cmore, maybe I could get used to it though. With the Jpoint/Doctor style sight, I would not have to worry about extraction problems, etc. As for putting a whole new top end on it, that would cost a lot more and give me really no advantage over having the barrel fitted (by SV) and I don't intend to drill the frame. So... other than it being a little heavy (and maybe you guys don't like the jpoint style sight), what is the downside to my plan?

    Would it be worth it?

    in Open Pistols

    Posted

    So I have been shooting limited for about 2 years, and IDPA for a year before that. Since I was a little kid I have been shooting shotguns, and I always find myself focusing on the target as if I were shooting a shotgun. I am getting tired of sucking because I cannot keep my focus on the front sight, so I am thinking open might be better for me. I currently have a SVI sight tracker in .40, and I would not want to get rid of it, I never plan to sell it. I don't want to drop $2-5k on an open gun until I know if I like it and plan to go that route or not, and would not be able to for another year or so.

    I have been thinking I could get a barrel fitted (with ports) for my sight tracker in 9mm or .38, swap out the breach face, extractor, ejector, and add a Dr. sight to it (with the mounting plate for the Bomar cut) and give it a shot. I would have 2 guns in one this way, and the cost to do it would be close to like a used glock open gun. For the same money, I think I would prefer to shoot my SV. If I like it enough to continue in open and pretty much move to it exclusively, then I would have a dedicated open gun built. I know it would not be ideal for an open gun, but I am only a C shooter anyways and don't expect to tear it up even in open so I think it would be a pretty good place to start.

    Thoughts?

    Congested traffic

    in The Gallery

    Posted

    ***Hides in bushes***

    ***pops up with 12ga.***

    TAKE EM!!! BOOM, BOOM, BOOM

    ***looks at faithful retriever sitting patiently, gives command to retrieve***

    ***goes home and eats well***

    I love geese..................................................... Deep fried!

    Reloading Snafoo

    in The Gallery

    Posted

    SNAFOO sometimes creeps into matches and shows his head at the most inopportune time. Two weeks ago, he showed up at the classifier and put MY finger between the magwell and magazine base during the reload.

    I broke my finger doing that at the Double Tap Championship this spring. My left ring finger got slammed between the basepad and the magwell and broke the bone under the fingernail. It hurt for weeks. I was about halfway through the match when I did it too so the rest of the match hurt pretty bad as well.

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