Thank you I do appreciate the advice. I am thinking i may have flared the mouth to much and the bullets are real slick. I can actually push the bullet in almost by hand. It is when I first start coming out of the crimping die it seems to hang on the bullet and pull it back part of the way out. Then I have been reseating them again to the proper length and re crimping. It seems to work of course I have not shot them yet.