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On 5/4/2023 at 11:32 AM, BigHand said:
I'm curious why anyone is turning off an SRO? I didn't even know how to turn it off and I have two. My RMR's, Holosuns, SRO's have never once been turned off.
A lot of dots that cater to the competitive market seem to have poor battery life. Dots like the FTP 2 offer a lot of what competitive shooters want but I can't get myself to purchase one because the battery life is so small.
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On my belt i always have one 170 that I typically start the stage with, one 155mm, and then a 140. I, like many have said on this thread, find the 140 good for reloads on a classifier.
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I have a wide frame open gun and just zero'd my 510c on it with a tevo mount, it sits slightly off center and doesn't make a difference at the ranges i shot it at.
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On 1/3/2023 at 11:02 AM, alien_pickles said:
I usually like the long loaded Precision Delta 40. It chrono'd 165.8 out of my 5" Schuemann barrel at racegun nationals last year. (Phew, glad it was certified!) However, I got a batch of 45 in 2020 during covid and have had a lot of issues with bad primers in the batch. I have no idea where they source them from, especially during a shortage...
I fortunately havn't had an issue making chrono with my long loaded PD's out of my 5'' KKM barrel on my limited gun, at Area 5 it clocked in at 169.9.
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I hope they go with a bull barrel for it and not the cone comp, that alone would be a huge improvement.
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I wish they would have thought out the wording to some of these questions in the survey more, yes to enhance or yes to diminish?
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12 hours ago, Blaize said:
this is why people are actively trying to start new leagues and there are plenty other outlaw matches and other types of shooting events for me to get too deep into USPSA.
I agree and think that the appetite for a new league is growing amongst the up and coming gen Z shooters, many see the ongoing drama with the BOD and a "behind the times" ruleset in some aspects are contributing to this feeling. Something may not happen soon but there will be a competitor league eventually.
This forum is hardly representative of shooting culture to begin with, many shooters are organizing themselves on other platforms like discord and instagram; this isn't the early 2000's any more and message boards and forums are not the way that many interface with the larger community. People may think that uspsa is invincible or has staying power but history shows all organizations come and go, especially when some aspects of it don't appeal to new shooters. Rules about SAO not being allowed in certain divisions, 40sw -which is a dead caliber anywhere else-, and rules against leg strap holsters all need reconsidering.
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Just now, Joe4d said:
Why would you even tell them anything ? They didnt read the rules,, were new shooters so why would it even matter ?
Lets see first time I shot IDPA, IPSC, USPSA, Bowling Pins, and Steel challenge,, I walked up to sign up, MD asked me what kinda gun / caliber I was shooting,,, He checked a block and sent me on my way..
Shoulda done the same , checked Open, wished them well,, If they cared about results, they would look at them and look at the rules for the next match and figure out to drop the magwell next time,, or just contiune having fun and shoot what they brung
Yeah why on earth would I bother talking to my friends or try and introduce new people to the sport?
This is besides the point though about how gun culture's tastes and preferences are shifting with technology. SAO will eventually come to carry optics whether people like it or not.
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6 minutes ago, Johnny_Chimpo said:
I see it as a reaction from a generation that has never been told "no".
The concept of conforming to a standard that they might not necessarily agree with is foreign to them.
They can start their own shooting sport for all I care.
The firearms that are at market or coming to market represent how expectations have shifted and technology will continue to change; thinking of this a generational attitude issue complete misses the point.
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10 minutes ago, Johnny_Chimpo said:
So you're saying people are not shooting USPSA CO because they won't turn a screw and slide off a magwell that came with their Canik or SIG?
I'd rather they'd just stay away then.
Although im not the poster you're replying to I do have thoughts on this.
Its not a simple question of removing the magwell or not but how the next generation of shooters view USPSA culture and its also representative of how gun culture and expectations are shifting.
For example one group of new shooters that i've introduced to USPSA who are in college came out to their first uspsa match and brought their carry guns which also happen to have carry magwells. When i told them that they'd have to remove their magwells to compete in carry optics they were initially very confused about this because in their view, carry optics is for "carry guns" and their carry guns have magwells so why couldn't they compete with their carry guns? Many in the group felt that this rule was out of touch and didn't hesitate to label some aspects of USPSA as "fud rules".
Tastes and preferences for what a carry gun has shifted as has gun technology. Many guns from the factory, like the sig 365 x macro now are coming with compensators and people are carrying them, is this not a factory gun that is in common usage? What happens when consumers come to expect a "carry comp" to come standard on new weapons?
USPSA rules have formed because they were a reaction to emerging equipment not necessarily anticipatory and that that in my view is a part of the issue.
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2 minutes ago, motosapiens said:
On the one hand, I think what is 'in common use' has nothing whatsoever to do with competitive shooting (cough cough pcc and open cough cough). OTOH, i think one of the things that makes CO interesting and relevant is that the guns are largely based on actual duty/carry guns. If I see my local deputies carrying staccatos with dots, perhaps I'd be more wiling to consider allowing SAO guns in one of the divisions that is actually practical.
The US marshals have already adopted staccatos as their service pistol and they are equipped with a DDP. Im sure there are other departments that are considering them.
to think about the coming outdatedness of the uspsa ruleset consider this: if you had to create a shooting fed/league from the ground up today, what divisions would you make for it? What factors would you consider when thinking about these divisions, i'm confident many people would use common usage as some reference point to help them think.
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In my view the rules for uspsa are a product of reacting to developments in competitive technique and technological advancement in firearms which is not beneficial to the future at all. The rules are constantly changing because they are a reaction to shifting gun culture and tech and people are trying to fit new advancements into existing boxes.
Many of the innovations that were born in competitive shooting are becoming more and more common place:
- compensators? many manufacturers are now offering guns with comps out of the box
- red dots? no question
- flared magwells? many are adopting magwells on their carry guns now.
I have zero issue with SAO guns in carry optics but it really isn't a solution; there is eventually going to be a need to overhaul the divisions given the shifting tastes and preferences of the gun community and what is in common use.
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On 4/16/2022 at 10:30 AM, Chapo said:
Hey bud, This is a public thread. ANYONE can join in and contribute. No one is comparing guns here. 2011s are awesome guns. But if you can't deal or handle different opinions or views, then you need more growing up to do and stop acting so conceited.
your posts are such obvious self promotion for your youtube. It is blatant your posts are disingenuous.
Getting this thread back on topic: got on the list for an open gun from mark; can't wait. Getting really tired of shooting limited.
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17 minutes ago, Boomstick303 said:
exactly.
I am not defending Atlas, what I am trying to understand is where Adam said "you purchase said grip if you medium grip strength". That is not what he is talking about.
Did you ever supply that video, or claim made by Adam? NO, because you have no idea what you are talking about.
chill man, i stated people shouldn't get caught up in the marketing and think that certain grip strengths will work for exclusively for whatever gun or grip; i was making a general point about all the varieties of 2011 grip modules and builds not a point exclusively about agw products. This is a point that you admit to when you stated that someone will have to tune their gun depending on the their needs when discussing "return to zero". If an agw video states that a certain grip textures will work better for certain grip strengths i caution people against this because its personal preference. AGW videos are marketing and promotional material and they function as that primarily.
im not going to continue discussing this with someone who believes that i have "no idea" what im talking about because its only going to be from a position of bad faith further on.
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1 hour ago, Boomstick303 said:
You are completely missing the point. It's not based on the different grip. It is based on the model of the gun.
Yes there is not an exact science for making one gun for the masses because everyone has varying grip strength, Atlas makes a recommendation to buy certain model of gun based on what you believe your grip strength is. Then the end user tweaks the gun with varying PF of their ammo and/or recoil spring to get their gun to return to zero.
If I contacted Adam I would tell him I have above average grip strength but not monster grip strength and I am looking for a limited gun. He would steer me towards the Nemesis and not the Titan. If I had monster grip strength the Artemis or the Titan would be more fitting for my claimed grip strength. The I would tweak the return to zero by testing varying ammo PF and recoil springs.
It has nothing to do with what Grip is on the gun.
Please show me the video where he says this.
I didn't miss the point, we're talking past each other here. I honestly don't know why you're getting so caught up in defending atlas when all I recommended was for people to try different grips for themselves and see what works. You can get circular reasoning with "its not based on the grip its based on the gun" whats the gun based on? peoples grips. What are the grips based on? they're based on the guns...ad nauseam.
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14 minutes ago, Boomstick303 said:
They have claimed that different models of their guns are designed to return to zero with varying degrees of grip strength. I believe this claim as I know individuals that have tested this and found it to be true.
thats the point that i'm talking about.
The point that i'm trying to make is that different people have different hands and what works for them might not work for others and to not worry so much that when Adam states in a video "this grip is going to work for medium grips". I personally believe that people should just try different grips to see what personally works for them
There isn't an exact science to "return to zero" outside of trial and error of a exponential combinations of springs, slide weights, loads, and every other element of firearm design. Return to zero is something that is going to vary a great degree from person to person, gun to gun, load recipe to load recipe. I just dont put too much weight to it consider how many variables there are.
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On 11/16/2021 at 9:16 AM, chowellacsbd said:
More importanly though, whats everyones thoughts on frame-mounted versus slide mounted? Most likely be running an RMR (1 or 3.5 moa). Cheely tacrail as well.
Frame mounted, its going to be more stable and less consequently less abuse on the rds.
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On 9/25/2021 at 5:01 PM, NotAnAddict said:
I imagine I need stronger hands and better grip techniques to control recoil more effectively. Thank you for your input.
if you want to increase grip strength you can start dead lifting. 2011 grips come in so many different textures and sizes that its largely personal preference so I wouldn't get caught up in the atlas marketing thinking that certain grip strengths are required for certain grips. Try out a lot and find what works for you.
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always fun to see someone try something different. honestly never expected to see someone compete with anything chambered in 45 outside of single stack.
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I came from using the cz shadow 2 style mag release so when i switched to 2011 I used the limcat mag paddle. Once you find an orientation on the paddle that works for you I found that the risk of dropping the mag is minimal.
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Mark built me a limited sight block gun and couldn't be happier. I first knew of this work because I shoot with many people that have his guns and then met him personally at a local match. He stands behind his work.
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If you want to stick with CZ you can't go wrong with picking up a TSO for limited. I shot a TSO for last year's season and I was very pleased with it. I shoot a 2011 now and I sometimes miss the no-fuss mags that I had for the CZ.
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On 3/11/2021 at 1:59 PM, BillChunn said:
Availability of functioning Colt mags may be a problem.
BC
fair point, it would be nice to see more PCCs with scorpion or mpx mag options.
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On 2/18/2021 at 5:30 PM, Moto_wrench said:
Man shows up in a Brush Popper I’m going home. He’s already won.
All i gotta say is that you better be rocking some jean short shorts to complete the look.
Glock 34 gen4 changing recoil spring to change impulse?
in Gun Springs
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I can second everyone's recommendation at using the jager guiderod with a 13 pound spring, I'm using one on my 34.5 and really like the impulse.