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16 minutes ago, eboadway said:
I called this morning and they suggested I try Cat Crap to keep the lens clear.
I ran cat crap. It’s useless! Maybe 10% less residue.
Don't waste your money.
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Just received my Legion back from Robert at SA. While the original trigger was satisfactory (especially for a shooter new to UsPSA) It’s significantly better now.
Ill put a ton of rounds through it tomorrow and circle back around for some commentary.
Based on nothing more than dryfire, I’m anticipating nothing but sexy.
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Bacon Cheeseburgers and deciding to try and do this in my 50’s is costing me way more time
than the beard!
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It was just a drill so I backed up the start position because I’m an old dude that probably hasn’t actually attempted to run in about 30 years.
Im trying to get some ankle mobility going.
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Robert’s got my x5 Legion right now. I was the one that originally made the comment based on my conversation with him.
In the end, we wasn’t comfortable that his Tig skills were at a capable level to handle it.
I did post a correction/ retraction.
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5 minutes ago, Posvar said:
I opted for a little bit different option. Last week I traded for a full X5 upper that was already cut out for DeltaPoint pro. See picture below. The optic is a good bit farther back and therefore has zero issue with residue. I will leave the Legion upper for iron sites.
Thats pretty slick.
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I think it’s personal choice. When I was deciding on a back up comp gun, I took a look at a used x-5 with the thought of adding the TXG grip, versus a second x5 Legion.
With regard to the original x5, what you don’t get versus an x5 Legion is the new trigger group/ FCU. Comparing apples to apples, if you hand Bruce an x5 and an x5 Legion, by virtue of design, Bruce (or in my case, Robert at SA) can produce a better feeling trigger for the Legion.
My decision was that I wanted the best comp trigger I could get my hands on for this platform. So I am willing to tolerate the gas residue at least for now.
If you’re satisfied with the x5 trigger work you have now, by all means grab the module and rock.
If otoh, you want an even better trigger, grab an x5 Legion and retain your current x5 as a back up.
Its really all personal choice.
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6 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said:
Being "competent" in this sport does NOT exist.
The 10th best shooter in the world probably wakes up every morning
and says "if only I were 9th best" -
At least that's what I do every morning - I just want to beat that old lady
who is the 2nd worst shooter in the world, and work my way up
slowly (It's been 20 years now).
But, you're way ahead of me - you're, at least, practicing.
Pls don't tell me you're also dry firing ....
Great response!
Yes, I’m dry firing too. Is this like a sickness?
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18 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said:
I'd
to have a COF all set up in my back yard like that … might actually
convince me I need to do some practicing.
I’m a new guy. I went to my home range to
do some basic stuff ie Bill Drills etc. They had all the stages set up for an IDPA match scheduled for today. I didn’t want to alter any of the stages so I just picked part of stage to run, mostly because I’m an old guy trying to learn to move my carcass.
Between the port being intentionally set to
cause hate and discontent, coupled with the small pins at the end, it gave me absolute fits. To make it worse, I was shooting my backup gun since my x5 Legion is off being massaged.
It was a fun but humbling day. The more I try to improve the more I realize just how much work it will take to try and learn to be competent in this sport.
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Thankfully this wasn’t a match but running drills yesterday. I managed to whittle 3 full seconds off the drill. And I was sure I was going to best my time again.
Wait.....no wait. I think I need that.
(Sorry for the potty mouth)
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13 minutes ago, Aircooled6racer said:
Hello: I thought of getting a Legion as a backup to my X5 but after hearing all of these things about the barrel(which I could weld) and slide cut for the optic, I think I will stick with my X5. I am running a Holosun 507C with the Springer adapter plate, Gray Guns curved trigger, Tungsten guide rod, and now a tungsten grip weight. The legion grip should be here next week. It will be interesting what the X5 Max will be? Thanks, Eric
The slide cut is a non-issue for me as I run DPP’s on everything.
The LCI definitely has to be dealt with (at least to me) as I can’t imagine with as many rounds as we shoot in this sport that it won’t accelerate deterioration of optic clarity.
Since youve dealt with the horrific stock stock trigger on the original x5 (reminded me of the double action pull on my dads Smith and Wesson model 29
), then adding the txg grip module should have you dialed. You may come in just slightly over legal weight with the tungsten guide rod if you’re running tti +5’s. It will be close but you may sneak by.
And that should give you a pretty sweet ride.
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11 minutes ago, Posvar said:
You need to call Springer Precision. He is doing his this week and once it is sound he will be offering the service at an affordable price. Mine is headed his way as soon as he’s ready.
Oustanding! I’ll be all over Scott like hair on a gorilla!
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Earlier in a post I mentioned that Robert (SA) thought he could resolve the LCI issue.
He called me yesterday and said he just doesn't feel his skillset is at a level to Tig the barrel and get it perfect. I respect any man that knows his limitations and thanked him for the honest assessment.
So, we are back to Barsto barrel and fitting if I want this smoke wagon to calm down! -
I suspect that’s exactly what he’s going to do.
Ill post up the second I have it back.
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4 minutes ago, jrn1975 said:
I am sure they added the LCI so they could use the barrel in "other" applications in the future. One barrel for multi applications allows them to only stock that one part instead of multiple ones. Its interesting that the didn't add the LCI to the slide.. Maybe that be a "feature" on the next revision.
Excellent point. I failed to take standardized interchangeability in to account.
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I sent my x5 Legion out to Robert (SA) yesterday. He stated that he can kill the problem associated with the LCI. Since I’m getting trigger work done, I told him to have at it after he assured me it doesn’t alter chamber pressure nor gun timing.
Should have it back end of next week. I’ll let everyone know how he resolved the issue once I’ve had a chance to test it.
I really wish Sig would come clean with the reasons they added this to the design. Is it a lawsuit prevention issue by calling it a safety feature? An LCI is absolutely useless on a comp gun and only adds to manufacturing costs. It’s not like I can unload and show clear by pointing to the LCI and telling the RO, “ See? The LCI shows the gun is not loaded so there is no need for me to rack the slide.”
It just makes no sense to me and my pea brain.
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On 8/6/2019 at 9:24 AM, Rolex said:
To bad- NOW does the glass take a hit from the brass- my x5 did with the Romeo 1 on it- broke the glass also.
No. I’ve caught an occasional piece of brass to the shroud edge but it is rare. Have never had one hit the glass.
My true concern is that gasses will cause lens degradation over time. And DPP’s are 400 a pop.
Wouldnt be a big deal if I was a casual range shooter. But anyone in this sport and trying to improve is mowing through ammo at a brisk pace.
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1 hour ago, Rolex said:
I am holding off on the Legion, hoping they will do something about that LCI barrel
I can’t say I blame you but I suspect you’ll be holding your breath for an awful long time. They are deflecting the issue by saying it’s the DPP’s weakness for having glass too close. And that their new wiz bang Optics (Whenever it releases) will not be an issue.
Im holding for now on having a barrel fitted because it’s more of an irritant than a real problem, at least for a match.
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I handed my stock x5 Legion to a single stack GM that shoots at terrifying speeds. Stone cold he took 2 slower shots and then promptly emptied the gun on multiple steels at 10 yards. The X5 Legion sounded like it had a full auto selector. It was humbling to say the least. I told him dont touch my stuff !
Seriously, His comments were that I may want to lighten recoil spring and a bit of trigger work would make it a very serious gun.
Coming off my Glock 34/5 with a DK Customs Comp Elite trigger, I would appreciate less take up and all the crispness I can get. So I'll send it out to Don today and report back. -
Was supposed to shoot my third match on Saturday but then a Level II practical pistol class popped up at Patriot Shooting Academy. It was taught by Gilbert Perez and Paul Kerr.
We spent a ton of time working with a lot of my major weaknesses.
Endless shooting repetitions to learn my own (And the X5 Legion) personal cadance.
Lots of time also spent learn how to drive the gun and throttle the gun with adjustments to cadance.
I learned that if I stopped overdriving the gun and relaxed, cadance and time improved dramatically. Less thinking definitely helped.
Both instructors pushed and cajoled me to go faster and faster until the wheels came off, then told me to dial it a tenth or a twentieth to tighten accuracy.
The highlight of my day was that between Gilbert and Paul working with me, they took my standing draw/fire from 1.45 to a step in to the box draw/fire of .99! Yes I know, that's not Big Boy fast. But for a 56 year old with only 2 matches under his belt, I'm downright giddy.
Biggest weaknesses:
My support hand grip caused the majority of my problems whenever I wet the bed. I need less strong hand and more weak hand. Need lots of dry fire to correct and improve this.
Other big issue is that tend to relax my grip for the last shot of a string/stage. This either ends with me forcing cadance and losing accuracy or interrupting cadance because gun bounce was excessive due to letting up on grip. This too can be dealt with in dry fire to teach myself to stay focused.
Just an awesome day with priceless instruction ! -
I took a Level II practical pistol class on Saturday at Patriot Shooting Academy. Gilbert Perez and Paul Kerr taught the class.
Tried Cat Crap on the lens of my DPP as I was told it would help to keep gasses from sticking. Stuff did not help at all so save your 8.00 and don't waste your time.
Some additional perceptions on the X5 Legion..........
For me, the gun is absolutely amazing. We spent a lot of time working on learning our individual cadance and learning to throttle. The more I stopped trying to overdrive the gun, the more accurate and the faster drew and shot. For a new practical shooter (only 2 USPSA matches under my belt) it inspired massive confidence.
Gilbert and Paul helped me take my standing draw and fire from 1.45 seconds to a 'step in to box' draw/fire of .99. I know this isnt big boy fast but for a 56 year old shooter, I was beyond ecstatic. These guys kept pushing me all day long until the wheels would come off, then tell me to reel it back in a hair.
And finally, I handed my bone stock X5 Legion to Paul Kerr with a full mag. A guy that shoots single stack at insane speeds. Stone cold, he was banging steels at 10 yards with what sounded like full auto speeds. All with the stock trigger.
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3 minutes ago, JGus said:
I wonder what Sig can do with the eventual release of the Max Michel P320 X5 to improve the model even more?
For starters they can throw every x5 Legion barrel with the LCI in the trash can so it quits clouding up my DPP!
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2 hours ago, Magsz said:
Question.
I have the same guide rod. Do you guys find that the guide rod doesn't seem to sit properly once the gun Is assembled? When in battery, the guide rod appears to be pointing up.The gun cycles and functions fine so im thinking that perhaps im over thinking this...
I have seen it shift from the first step to the second step. Never an issue. Have also had the same thing happen in my other Glocks with captured guide rods. I May be seating it too deeply.
SPeaking with great ignorance, I believe it to be a non-issue and in no way related to the guide rod. -
OK, catching up here.
Shot my second match. Local match at Kettlefoot. Had a great time but did poorly even by new guy standards. Accuracy is acceptable but Im still shooting hauntingly slow. I'll address separately.
In an unforeseen event, I ended up changing platforms. Was running a 34/5 with DPP. In spite of shooting Glocks casually for decades, I have never been in love with how they fit my hand. I did grab one of the new x5 Legions as I was intrigued with the tungsten infused frames. At somewhere around a 1000 rounds through the gun, I retired the 34 and will shoot x5 Legions go-forward. I put a second one on order so I have a primary and a back up. The grip is so much better in my hand. It settles very quickly. Just feels so much more comfortable and intuitive.
Had a 1000 round practice day with 800 rounds running this single drill in the vid. I just wanted to work on general movement and fundamentals. Beginning time 16.94 seconds. I whittled it down to 10.53 with consistent times in the 11's.
Of all the things wrong with my technique, the two hurting me the worst right now are length of time from draw to target acquisition, and doing one thing at a time.
It takes forever and I mean forever for me to acquire sight picture. Clearly, my draw and presentation to target are the problem. I am working on grip and punch out via daily dry fire drills. its not easily fixable and I believe that only time and massive repetition is going to improve it. Sweat equity.
The other issue is movement. My brain seems to be wired to do one thing at a time. Dump clip. Transition. Reload. Bring gun to target. A friend who is terrifyingly fast explained that my gun should be up and on target by the time I hit second box.
Course of action this week:
Massive daily dry fire. Draw and 2 shot drill averaging 1.80 seconds. Hoping dry fire will help here.
Will shoot the same drill again Wednesday to see if I've made any headway on time to target acquisition. WIll also focus on fluidity and gun on very close to being on target when entering box.
Shooting my third match on August 3rd. Again, hoping to see some improvement.
Vid as average of my craptactular lack of speed.
P320 X5 Legion announced! Q5 Match SF competitor?
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I’m concerned about this too. I got mine back from Robert at SA and my trigger is perfect! I don’t want them touching it. I don’t even want them to look at it.
Avert your eyes!