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On 2/15/2020 at 4:04 PM, FF112173 said:
What is everyone running for drop in triggers? I’d like to stay with reasonable priced options but am willing to look at higher priced ones also. This will be in a build for both USPSA and Steel Challange. Go!
A topic on this subject was created in the past. You can find some good suggestions there:
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4 minutes ago, Steve133 said:
Ask and ye shall receive:
https://moaprecisionllc.com/product/lightning-load-lifter-stoeger-version-pre-order/
Thanks, the aftermarket industry is quick, and does not leave any desire, unanswered!
After all, the firearms/ ammo and aftermarket industries have rose (its economic impact) 171% from 2008-2018 [source: NSSF- 2019 report].
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6 hours ago, 1time said:
Not the freedom, the m3k with work. For me, the lifter mod is king. I went with the A5 for it and wouldn’t go back. Now that it can be done to the M2, that’s where I’d be. If it could be done to the m3k, that may be a different story.
I agree the auto-lifter is an interesting feature. But a match-saver is also a very good alternative.
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OK, this is what I would do. At the time of shooting, I won't argue with the RO/CRO and do what he said and finish the stage.
Then depending on the attitude of the RO, I either pull up the guidebook/rules in my cell phone and show it to the RO, or call the RM and describe the situation. I then will ask to re-shoot the stage.
Enjoy your shooting and the sport. In the end, not everyone are perfect, and ROs are like everyone else. It could be just an honest mistake on his side.
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You can simply ask to call the range-master.
Some RO are a bit rusty in memorizing rules for different divisions. I witness the exact same situation in a steel-challenge match two weeks ago.
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On 2/10/2020 at 9:06 AM, 1time said:
After plenty of “budget” purchases I’ve realized the best money savings is buying a gun that you won’t want to replace later.
I totally agree. However, the current firearm market is filled with so many options that makes it hard to decide which system is really worth the money you pay for it and it really delivers the level of accuracy/reliability/functionality you desire. Perhaps within the boundaries you define for the purpose/use.
Since you mentioned M2, have you tried M3K Freedom. It does give you a "cheaply made" impression if you put side by side with M2. But it is very similar to M2, it terms of the functionality and it is very reliable (at least among the shotguns at its price range).
I wonder if Auto-loading lifter can be installed in a M3K, since it shares the same platform with M2?
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I heard about the new Hiperfire PHANTOM. Very promising (at least in their ads!).
Saying that, after shooting around 1k, I like the Hiperfire HIPERTOUCH (with the lighter spring). I have bought some spare springs for the firing pin.
I have shot many rounds with the following trigger brands: Geissele, Elftman, and CMC. This Hiperfire trigger is different. Can't say in a good or bad way. It does not give a crisp brake kind of feeling. It is more like a polished trigger to a point that it just make a surprise brake. It was a very odd feeling at the beginning, but now that I get use to it, I like it very much.
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26 minutes ago, bdpaz said:
It is not "..finally...". This point has been mentioned several times, once very early in this thread, and you (apparently) have not noticed it until now. I believe that not responding to things like that are part of the reason others are becoming frustrated with this discussion and suggesting that you aren't interested their replies.
I hear what you are saying, but I am sure even you cann't accept it as an excuse to attack the person who raised the question. If that was the case, one could simply provide a link and say it has been mentioned before. Or as Mike mentioned in two (long) sentences, that person could say the assumption is not correct, and here are the reasons ....
1 hour ago, MikeBurgess said:The assumption that you have to shoot all As to classify well is wrong, there are many classifiers with partial targets and with major scoring you are able to shoot much further away from the no-shoot or hard cover and end up with a better score.
If your goal is to make A or better in limited it can be done with Minor, I have seen a guy make Master with a Minor gun, but it is easier with Major, and the guy I saw do it with minor will tell you the same thing.
Furthermore, no one force anyone in this forum to respond to every single topic. If you go back to the responds that are given, you will see some of them not only are not related to the topic, but also they are mainly an expression of arrogancy and lack of judgment/rational.
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5 minutes ago, cnote said:
Where is a 7.9 HF almost equivalent to a 7.4 HF. A half a hit factor could be multiple placements lower depending on the stage.
I was comparing apples with apples, and oranges with oranges:
Major:
- 75%A + 25%C at 19.3 Sec: HF 7.87
- 25%A + 75%C at 17.3 Sec: HF 7.86
Minor:
- 75%A + 25%C at 19.3 Sec: HF 7.46
- 50%A + 50%C at 17.3 Sec: HF 7.39
So it is 7.87 vs 7.86, and 7.46 vs 7.39.
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12 minutes ago, MikeBurgess said:
The assumption that you have to shoot all As to classify well is wrong, there are many classifiers with partial targets and with major scoring you are able to shoot much further away from the no-shoot or hard cover and end up with a better score.
If your goal is to make A or better in limited it can be done with Minor, I have seen a guy make Master with a Minor gun, but it is easier with Major, and the guy I saw do it with minor will tell you the same thing.
Thanks, finally a respond that actually relates to the topic!
If that is the case, I was under a wrong impression that for a A/G/GM level HF, it is all about how fast someone can shoot all A-zones.
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2 hours ago, Balakay said:
It is time for us all to disengage. He has been shooting USPSA for < 1 year and is barely out of D-class (yeah, I checked). He has never shot a Major power factor division.
Sean, you either don't know what you don't know or are enjoying the internet banter
Sad to see again and again, when people fall short in a conversation they start to attack the person. You simply demonstrate how you are not capable of participating in a conversation about such a simple topic.
Getting back to what you have just expressed about me:
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Yes, I have been shooting for less than a year, and I started as a C-level shooter. Since my first match, I've kept on improving and progressing every match. Don't worry, I will overtake you very soon
. BTW, you did not need to search for it, you could simply ask me and I would let you know.
- Of course I have not shot a major PF in a match. I said that in my previous posts in this topic:
QuoteI had shot PCC, CO, and Production in the past (all minor), and recently decided to shoot limited (major). Actually I will shoot my first limited match at the next weekend. I know some of the pros and cons of each load, but wanted to know how much weight each has, specially in a classifier stage.
I refer you to what ima45dv8 has posted couple of hours ago:
7 hours ago, ima45dv8 said:There's been a few displays in this thread that don't meet Brian's long-established code of conduct.
From the Forum Guidelines:
QuotePosting Guidelines
Attitude
Please be polite. Or if not polite, at least respectful.
No bickering. Regardless of the subject matter.
Antagonistic, offensive, or quarrelsome tones are not acceptable.
No trolling. No alternate accounts.Maybe it is hard for you to understand that if someone ask a question, it is because that person doesn't know the answer. I hope one day you grow up, and learn how to engage in a conversation.
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Yes, I have been shooting for less than a year, and I started as a C-level shooter. Since my first match, I've kept on improving and progressing every match. Don't worry, I will overtake you very soon
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11 minutes ago, waktasz said:
The general aiming area you are using does in fact get larger, therefore you can go faster, when shooting major.
With minor yes, the gun recoils slightly less, but the target area is smaller so you must be more precise and go slightly slower.
2-3 extra rounds is small advantage, on a small percentage of stages. I shoot CO and Limited currently, and on field courses I will do one reload in both divisions. On the rare 22 or 23 round stages, I don't have to reload in CO, but there is almost always a place to fit in a reload if you have to on those stages. I've timed myself and if the position involves 3 steps or more, it's not any slower to do a reload compared to not.If it was an advantage in any way at all, don't you think someone would try it at a major level match? NO one does.
The closest thing you have is in Single Stack, where you get 25% more rounds in your gun with minor. In that case it may be worth it, but nationals results still say Major is better.I get your point, basically the disadvantage of one additional point deduction when hitting a C-zone with a minor load (compare with major), overcomes its advantages (extra rounds+less recoil and presumably faster run).
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46 minutes ago, teros135 said:
Uh, Storeg? Who?
Sorry, mistype, ben Stoeger
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16 hours ago, waktasz said:
Consider this....
When you shoot major, the target get bigger.
Can you shoot a larger target faster than a smaller one?(I can't believe I even bothered to reply in this thread, lol)
I understand how targets gets larger is a method that people use to describe major vs minor, but there is a flaw in that statement. A-zone does not get bigger, no matter what load you shoot.
13 hours ago, waktasz said:It's not that the advantages to minor are negligible, it's that there are none.
I interpret your comment as you very much like major. But look at the mentioned points about the advantage of minor from another perspective.
For someone who shoots just major, I assume you agree adding a magazine extension is an advantage (within the boundaries of total magazine length). It will add 2-3 rounds to each magazine. It may not be much, but you can't ignore its advantage.
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3 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said:
It doesn’t work that way. The fastest and most accurate shooters in the entire world all choose major in Limited. Always.When discussing high hit factor stages like a classifier or a fast-paced field course? C’s barely hurt at all.
When faced with a cruel partial target? You’ll see a proficient shooter rail across the other ones, transition to the partial, and punch two Charlies in the shoulder without hitting the brakes. There’s no incentive to hit the A zone at all.
When shooting on the move? Cs don’t hurt as long as you move your feet fast. The entire C zone is your aiming area. Split fast while running hard in this position... while Mr Minor has to work harder to chase the Alphas.
As long as your time is noticeably quicker than the minor guy who has to chase Alphas on those targets you will stomp him into the ground every time.
Things like that are how Major dominates.
In USPSA speed and hits are both factors in your score, and a lot of guys take years to truly understand how often you come out ahead if you shoot the stage 10% faster but drop a few more points
Switching topics back to classifiers:
If anyone tells you that you need all As on your classifiers, ignore any other advice they ever give you.
Even in Production, a few Cs on an M or GM classifier are the expectation. (My very first M class Production classifier had a great time, flawless reload, and 3Cs and a D.)
Agree, the point you make has been illustrated in a previous post:
17 hours ago, Sean_ht said:Interesting. Where did you get this chart?
Basically in a 19sec stage, shooting 75%A+25%C, is almost equivalent of shooing 2sec faster (about 10% faster) with 25%A+75%C (major). But for minor, it is 50%A+50%C.
The source is Stoeger 's post in Instagram, that @ anonymouscuban posted in this topic.
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1 minute ago, AmarokTactical said:
You're the one who has fallen short, been educated by many experienced nice folk and ignored it. You are beating a dead horse about something that is not debatable, hell it is something you can mathematically prove and we do that with Hit Factor.
Nice folks! attacking the person who raised a question and being rude is not a good qualification for being "nice folk". I refer you to the last three comments.
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1 minute ago, AmarokTactical said:
You're clearly ignorant AF.
If you think that stage plans for CLASSIFIERS (which is your whole pointless argument) make a difference between 21 and 24 rounds in the gun, you are out of your mind. There's a reason you're stuck in C or B and are still on the struggle bus to A and it's absolutely a mental one.If you think 21 vs 24 rounds will change your stage plan and strategy enough to effect score on a stage, you're again wrong. Ever heard of shooting over 21 rounds from one spot on a reasonable stage? Me either, but I have heard of people reloading while moving between positions.
Every single statement you have made is clearly that of a troll or someone with absolutely no grasp of the sport (or desire to learn). If you ask me, you need to try IDPA or Steel Challenge, you're not cut out for this sport.Good for you that you have a good grasp of sport. Keep it for yourself and when learn to respect the people, start your talking about your reasons.
It is funny and at the same time sad; when some people fall short in an argument, they start to attack the person.
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5 hours ago, SwedishMoose said:
I'm not sure how much USPSA you shoot but you'll find almost never are people doing standing reloads. The slight increase in capacity is nowhere near as helpful as the boost in points. Also most people who shoot major PF reload... meaning that .40 is nowhere near as spicy as factory .40.
I don't know how "standing reload" relates to the point I made.
I "am not sure how much USPSA you shoot ", but the number of rounds in the mags changes the shooting strategy and stage planning.
With regards to reload vs factory, you have to make a fair comparison: reload 9 vs reload .40, or factory 9 vs factory .40 cal. In both cases the 9mm has less recoil.
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6 hours ago, Southpaw said:
Whatever's cheap. I don't think it makes a difference.
You can shoot 0.26" groups at 25 yards? That's impressive
My bad, 1", not 1MOA
Still, very accurate. The point is the Blazer (which is not a special ammo in any sense) could be accurate enough (in this case very accurate).
BTW, a guy in the range at the line beside me told me the same thing
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15 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said:
Sean, you made these points in your initial posting, and now you're refuting all the explanations to your question.
And, that's your prerogative. You can continue to believe them.
But, the responders are very experienced, including a number of people who have shot minor and major (I have, also).
But, once again :
1. you do not have to shoot all A's to make A class. If you are shooting Major, speed can make up for some C's.
2. You are correct, Major does make more recoil in a scientific sense, but it is possible to shoot Major as fast as you can shoot Minor
3. If you reload, the price is Very Similar (My 9 mm Major is less expensive than my 9mm Minor, because of the heavier bullet).
Most A shooters are reloading. You are probably correct that if you are NOT reloading, Major is more expensive. Matter of fact,
I doubt you can purchase .40 Minor - most of it is Major +++ (PF 180 or more). Tough to find .40 at PF 140 or 172.
Not trying to argue with you, but very experienced shooters (HCH, Cuban, Memphis, RJH and IMA45 ) are all giving you some
Very Practical Answers to your question. The practical advantages of shooting Major overcome the theoretical disadvantages
of shooting Minor, except in Revolver and possibly SS. As HCH mentioned, no GM's are shooting Minor when they can shoot MAJOR.
Yes, you are correct that there are theoretical advantages to shooting minor, and cost is sometimes one if you don't reload, but
the bulk of A/M/GM's are reloading.
Not to dissuade you from shooting Minor - try it - I shot Limited Minor for a few years and enjoyed it. Couldn't get out of C class,
but it was a weekend's entertainment. But, not to listen to the practical advice you've been given by some excellent shooters
above is doing YOU a disservice.
Thanks for the respond. I am not refuting. The reason I post the question is to get the answer with the reasoning behind it, not just a yes and no answer (and an added statement like "just accept it, because I know better").
I had shot PCC, CO, and Production in the past (all minor), and recently decided to shoot limited (major). Actually I will shoot my first limited match at the next weekend. I know some of the pros and cons of each load, but wanted to know how much weight each has, specially in a classifier stage.
Basically the consensus of the responds suggests that the advantages of minor are negligible, when shooting against major in the same division.
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11 hours ago, anonymouscuban said:
Here is a visual to show you what how hits vs time vs PF impact score. Ignore the arrows.
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Interesting. Where did you get this chart?
Basically in a 19sec stage, shooting 75%A+25%C, is almost equivalent of shooing 2sec faster (about 10% faster) with 25%A+75%C (major). But for minor, it is 50%A+50%C.
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Federal Synthetic is the most consistent ammo I have shot. However, such a high level of consistency is overkill, unless we are talking about bulls-eye type of shooting. I could get 1MOA from Blazer at 25yard, offhand. For me it is accurate enough to shoot any USPSA match. I don't like S&B and Winchester, because they are both not as clean as Blazer and Federal.
As for the casing material, I hesitate to shoot any steel. Aluminium is fine, and its accuracy/consistency is on par with brass.
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13 minutes ago, ima45dv8 said:
I think it's obvious. Even if both shooters are shooting ALL Alphas, the clone can't shoot any faster than I can. He's my clone.
He eventually gets beat on points.
I would argue the clone can shoot faster, because of the more round per mags and less recoil.
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5 hours ago, HCH said:
Classifiers aren’t matches.
Agree, but I don't understand how it is related to the topic?!
. BTW, you did not need to search for it, you could simply ask me and I would let you know. 
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There are several available options, and I narrow them down to the following two options: 60/90 and 120
Any suggestion?