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On 10/5/2022 at 7:04 AM, rooster said:
Could you have an edge hit on no shoot and hit the plate? In that case you would get both hits. If it was a full diameter hit in no shoot the plate hit would not count.
A full diameter hit on the NS (or any target/hard cover, for that matter) that knocks over a plate or popper is a range equipment failure. Which means a reshoot.
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19 hours ago, Unibrain said:
Great timing for the question. On todays NROI podcast Troy talks about a thing that replaces some pins on a Glock. His interpretation is that that device is not legal.
What is the part?
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Is there anything that says individual matches can't add it as a category?
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On a slightly more serious note: stop worry about the classifier (easier said than done) and JUST SHOOT IT. Never reshoot a classifier (aside from situations covered by the rules) unless something really wonky happened. Some of my highest classifier scores were shot when I was utterly distracted - running the timer, then finding out I am on deck for example. No time to think about it and worry.
What is far more important than classifier scores is major match performance. Which is rich coming from a guy who never shoots to his classification percentage at majors, but that's a whole different discussion haha.
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1 hour ago, Sarge said:
Some worry about splatter right in front of their face when the muzzle is near steel frames
With mild steel for the frames (and the fact that they are smaller than the typical wooden or PVC frame), it's fairly unlikely. At least with how I have used the walls and/or seen them used.
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On 6/25/2022 at 3:21 PM, rowdyb said:
I shoot lots of matches w pvc walls. I hate metal framed walls. Pvc frames are super easy to repair and the light weight is awesome
Besides weight, what do you hate about metal framed walls? I actually prefer them over wood, at least from what I have seen in my area.
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I still say we need to freeze equipment changes for at least two years. We've had enough changes recently, things need to stabilize and then we can see if changes NEED to be made.
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13 minutes ago, Edwards30 said:
Yes Desert Sportsman in Summerlin is still active, I am a member there. They even are just finishing construction on more pistol bays there for USPSA.
There is also Pro Gun Club on the other side of Las Vegas that I believe holds major matches for rifles quite often and should be able to accommodate it.I was told by several (non-HQ) people that nobody wants to go back to Vegas for nationals. Maybe things have changed to make that viable now though, since last time?
1 hour ago, wchangose said:Question for those who live on the west side of the Rockies. Leighton said in a statement that there were no ranges in the west that could hold the match. Is the SUPS range in St George, UT still open? How about the Redrocks range in Summerlin (Las Vegas), NV? I've shot matches at both before, but it's been some years, are they still open?
SUPS redid their bays and arrangement, and apparently it's just not suitable to hold the nationals there any more. They'd have to do a split match or something, with some stages there and the rest at another range.
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3 hours ago, motosapiens said:
if i can make the rescheduled event, I'm going to get 4 matches in for 1 video. winner!
And of course now that I could actually go to the match, I've already plotted out my fall plans and will be running our big level 1 during nationals....
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8 minutes ago, Sarge said:
That’s cute. We had almost twice that number at our state match this weekend.
This was 2-gun nationals, so it's a little smaller any way because it's multigun
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16 hours ago, ChuckS said:
Grip tape on the basepad is another way to ruin your day...
I almost got burned by this at SC sectional a few years back. A friend of mine I was shooting the match with told me to gauge the night before we shot. I discovered the tape had my mags out of compliance! Peeled it off and I was good to go.
1 hour ago, Paul B said:I have measured my Sig factory 21 round magazines several times with different rulers and they are always in compliance using the method in Appendix E-1. Just to be sure I shaved a little off the back of the basepad but remember there is an alternative of using a ruler if the mag guage does not work with a certain type of basepad.
I think Sig fixed that issue, because I distinctly remember it being a problem when they first came out but not recently.
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2 hours ago, Boomstick303 said:
I imagine that there comes a dollar amount that would make people treat the event as a transaction. $35 seems like they are there or are close to that dollar amount to where shooters will act 100% like a consumer. A consumer has no vetted interest in helping out the match staff with anything when paying a lot to attend an event.
At least that is the way it seems to me.
Yeah at that price, if it's a standard local match (5 stages + classifier), I am inclined to view it as show up, shoot, go home vs show up, help where needed, shoot, tear down, home.
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7 hours ago, Johnny_Chimpo said:
As an aside, I saw first hand on saturday why level 1 matches should be sticklers for enforcing ALL rules, including new shooters.
I saw several guys in my squad get bumped to open at the Buckeye Blast on saturday because their CO mags wouldn't fit in the gage. They were all relatively new shooters, some of which I know for a fact were attending their first level II.
If they had gone through a quick gear check (mag gage, holster position) at a local, they wouldn't have been as pissed and frustrated as they were this weekend.
That's part of the reason I own a scale, shockbottle economy box, and a mag gauge. I'll bring them out whenever people need them so they can check their gear prior to a major.
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On 6/4/2022 at 7:19 PM, JFlowers said:
Saw a shooter try and do the flip at a local match. Round detonated on the ejector, piece of brass went through his lip and cracked his tooth. Personally, I can drop the chambered round to the ground and then pick it up.
The flip and catch is irrelevant to the detonation though, could still have gone off with them just racking it. I witnessed that happen to a shooter at a major - clearing a jam, the shooter had a detonation. Part of the cartridge struck them on the mouth, bloody lip. RO called stop for safety reasons, and they ended up reshooting (RM's call).
Reason for the reshoot was we (the staff) essentially could not prove that the gun or ammo was dangerous and should be retired. It was a freak accident.
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They are legal - it's basically treated as 2 pouches with a common attachment point.
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2 hours ago, JusticeOfToren said:
A bit off topic - does anyone know officially if any stages from the classic natz will become new 22 series classifiers?
There were several candidates - the ones with the strong/weak hand shooting and movement.
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12 hours ago, shred said:
Years ago a range near here got some old riding lawnmowers with bad decks for scrap value, junked the mower parts and used them to tow homebrew mini-trailers for walls and props. Worked pretty well for not a lot of investment. IIRC they parked the trailers under a pull-through canopy.
APSC (my home range) has a 'trailer park' where the outdoor-capable props, target stands and sticks stay on the stage trailers until the next match while the movers and targets and such such get stored in an enclosed trailer or shed. Being Texas, there's usually enough people around with trucks and tow-capable SUVs to pull the trailers over to the bays.
The old riding mowers towing home brewed trailers sounds so redneck and I absolutely love it.
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Zero Sports Custom also has a good product.
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14 hours ago, motosapiens said:
Just to revisit this topic, we just finished Area 1 at our range in Nampa Idaho. 400 shooters, 14 stages over 4 total days. Scores posted at 12:16, by 4:40 we had done the full protest period, awards, prize table, complete tear-down of the match and putting everything away, a raffle for the teardown volunteers where everyone got something (i got a ruger revolver), and driven home to feed the dogs and open a beer.
Many hands make light work.
If I ever leave the south I may have to look at settling up there just for the USPSA efficiency...
At my club I design all the stages, and typically have 2-3 people help me build them the day before. We are pretty efficient though, we can put a 140 round match on the ground in around 3-4 hours. Less if I come out on Friday after work to set a few things up.
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If the competitor fired 6 shots weak hand when they should have been strong hand, that would be a procedural per shot fired.
10.2.8If a course of fire stipulates shooting strong or weak hand only, a competitor not be penalized for using the other hand (i.e. the other arm from the shoulder to the hand) to disengage an external safety, to reload or to correct a malfunction. However, the competitor will be issued one procedural penalty per shot fired while:
10.2.8.1Touching the handgun with the other hand while firing shots;
10.2.8.2Using the other hand to support the handgun, wrist or shooting arm while firing shots;
10.2.8.3Using the other hand on a barricade or another prop to increase stability while firing shots.
By holding the gun with the weak hand instead of the strong hand, IMO that satisfies touching the handgun with the other hand while firing shots.
As far as interference - between strings, telling the shooter what happened isn't interference in my opinion. It's along the lines of if the shooter asked the RO a question ("what's the hand position" or something like that). If you're not interrupting the shooter getting set for the next string then it should be okay.
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14 hours ago, davsco said:
bagel, what are you finding that is more difficult vs kydex?
My draw stroke is just all weird because the gun clears the holster so much faster. It's causing me to porpoise
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We comp match fees for anyone who helps with setup (we set up the day before). If you help morning of (hanging targets, painting steel, last minute touches) you get first dibs on squadding. Everybody helps with teardown after the match.
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Hey Sarge, did you figure out what dimensions/product to buy? I am looking at getting some for my club, to replace the dry cleaner bags.
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14 hours ago, JDubb said:
Last year when we had a ghost squad I was able to go check out the vendors in the middle. I was A2 last year, and middle of upper C this year. I didn’t have time to check out what was there this year. It is what it is giving my time to work it.
This year, my stage had a ghost squad before lunch and then two immediately after. We policed our stage and then checked out the vendors, watched other stages for a bit, then still had like 3 hours to kill haha.
One thing actually related to the thread - I wish that there had been hard cover IPSC targets. All we had to create partials with those were NS, which is fine, but I do like using hard cover because shooters do treat it differently.
MGM Paper IPSC Targets
in USPSA/IPSC Shooting
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How are the perfs? I have a newer order sitting in storage, but I haven't broken into them yet to check. Still working through old stock.