Flyingpig
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Got hold of some DG 124gn round nose. Was wondering whats a good starting point (OAL) for a stock Shadow 2 barrel NOT reamed?
Thanks in advance.
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I run and 11.5# with a plain ole factory firing pin with RAMI pin spring and it lights off everything. Actually both my S2s do. Same setup.
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6 hours ago, xdf3 said:
I think there's no need to see the sights under 5 yards and you can throw off fast splits (0.10-0.15) with some training. 100ms is not much time considered that it's the time between the 2 shots, not the time you used to think "now i'm going to shoot again".
So with this logic you would shoot a 4 yard bill drill differently than you would shoot a 7 yard bill drill? I would argue that top shooters would shoot them exactly the same which is by seeing their sights for both drills with the same splits (or very close to the same splits).
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On 3/11/2019 at 11:18 AM, xdf3 said:
You're not going to track sights with a 0.10-0.15 split at few yards. What do you expect to see? It's not that grandmasters become supermen and they can see faster.
How about .15 splits on 6 yard targets? How about .15 splits in general? Are you telling me that nobody sees their sights at .15 splits? I know A class shooters with .15 splits that see their sights.
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On 3/9/2019 at 5:55 AM, xdf3 said:
It's a different topic already - most top shooters WON'T see their sights at that speed
So at what distances would you say that top shooters start seeing/watching their sights? I'm curious as to when you think that top shooters might consider paying attention? At distances where you can blow pasters off the target I agree with your assumption. ANYTHING farther than that they are seeing their sights.
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On 3/5/2019 at 10:11 AM, xdf3 said:
Isn't this a bit outdated? I've seen many top shooters shooting faster than they can see the sights, especially when they know the gun.
I've never seen a top shooter shoot faster than they see their sights. Target focused or sight focused they are still seeing their sights i guarantee.
Ask yourself a question. How can you call your shots if you don't see your sights?
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On 1/31/2019 at 4:56 PM, MsDV8 said:I can hear the cackling from down the street.
Take two equally ranked A classified shooters. Both are mentally and physically on top of their game. Practice regularly, shoot the stages identically, etc. etc. etc. One is shooting a stock production gun (CZ Shadow 2) with a factory trigger job, usually a 9 pound D/A trigger pull, the other is shooting a production gun (CZ Shadow 2) with a 5 pound D/A trigger pull and adjusted springs so that the recoil is dampened to the point that it’s still allowing the gun to cycle properly but felt recoil is significantly reduced. Who has the advantage?
I'd be willing to say that they could probably trade guns the morning of the match and neither would would hardly have any difference in there respective performances. All that stuff is a matter of taste and I predict the custom work would hardly make any difference in performance.
Further more the worked on gun would barely have a double action of less than 7.5 pounds on a good day. Felt recoil with plus or minus pound springs is minimal at best. Again its a matter of taste. Custom guns aren't going to make a shooter at that level. For a C shooter who never shoots a double action it might make a slight difference
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On 1/31/2019 at 4:56 PM, MsDV8 said:I shoot both IPSC and IDPA. If I’m going to be truthful, I think IDPA is WAY harder than IPSC.
You're joking right? At the very least you're trolling us right?
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I had the same problem with the light pin spring in my Shadow 2. I am running a 11.5# hammer spring. I went back to the factory pin spring and it lights of everything including CCI primers. No problems at all. I'm betting you'll be just fine with the factory spring.
Also you might want to try the RAMI firing pin springs. They are lighter than the factory CZ 75 spring but not as light as the CGW light spring. I have also used those with no issues.
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22 hours ago, zhuk said:
Does the extended firing pin really matter if you're only using Federal primers? It's not obtainable where I am at the moment.
Also, I installed a 13# spring but it's still too heavy and is causing pain in my hand/down the carpal part of my wrist; how much lighter is the 11#? I have the option of buying 9/10# springs as well (already have the lighter firing pin spring)
The reach reduction kit is not an option for IPSC, unfortunately.I use a CGW 11.5# main spring, factory firing pin and factory pin spring. It lights off everything I put through it including CCI, Winchester and others.. I would NOT go any lighter than that for reliability without changing other things.
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short reset (cajun)
13# recoil spring
polish job
light trigger return spring and floating trigger pin.
had extended pin and light spring but went back to factory pin and spring with no issues. It sets off everything.
All work done by myself.
Had issues with the light pin spring and didn't feel comfortable with extended pin as it protruded past the pin hole and wasnt all the comfortable filing the pin down.
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A place to do some "real" live fire practice (not bulls-eye shooting at a static range) doesn't hurt . A few sessions at a range where you can draw, rapid fire, move etc. can improve your ability by leaps and bounds in a short period of time..
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+1 on lighter mainspring. Thats about all you can do. Well...that and a good polish job.
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22 hours ago, Seanziegler said:
As you have learned it seems slide stop and trigger return spring are the first to go. Did you install the strong cgw trigger spring or an oem one?
Cgw light return spring. Haven't broke one of those yet. Correct on the slide stop though an a broken nose on the ejector.
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10 hours ago, rowdyb said:
The shadow 2 optic ready is 32 000 krone. That's 1400 usd. The shadow 2 orange has more time and man hours into it. I bet 1 999 in usd.
Its going to be a tricky proposition here in the US. If I can get a CZ Custom for less I'd be hard pressed not to. We shall see.
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13 hours ago, IDescribe said:
You didn't understand the sentence. I'm not saying that laziness leads to small bombs. I'm saying all cartridges are small bombs, and and generally speaking, lazy isn't a good character trait to embrace while building them.
In your case, I'm not suggesting this particular application of laziness is dangerous. I'm saying that coming here to ask for OALs from people who don't have your gun, for the purpose of a starting point for trial and error, you've already spent more time than what it would take to do it right. I'm not even sure that's lazy. Seems more like stupid.Where in my original post did I say anything about a "starting point" ? I've loaded about 4K of these so far for ONE gun (they have functioned just fine for this particular gun from 1.11 to 1.14). I was curious to see what other people are loading for their particular guns. Thats all. Was curious where the average might fall, and what others are doing. Again , lets not make this a lesson in safety or anything more than it actually is.
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9 hours ago, GeneBray said:
My suggestions are based on my experience w/SP01 and 67k but never 30k in a year.
1. Look at rnd count when you replaced the parts you mentioned, if available. If parts are getting high on rnd count change them. Else, R&R all springs.
2. Slide stop maybe
3. Inspect all pins and replace if you can id any problems.
4. Measure FP length for wear. Inspect for peening.
5. Carefully inspect sear and hammer hooks for wear. Use magnification, as high as you can.
6. Depending on bullet you use and powder your barrel may be showing wear/erosion. Borescope if you can. Mine had to be replaced at ~62k. Eroded to point bullets began key holing occasionally. All jacketed and all Titegroup.
7. Complete tear down except for sights and cleaning. If rear sight is adjustable, remove disassemble and clean. Inspect pin.
You should have a receiver completely stripped. A slide with front sight and maybe a fixed rear attached.
If you run a fixed rear there should be a gap of 0.001-0.002” between bottom of sight behind dovetail and the slide. If there isn’t remove sight and inspect for signs of cracks/fatigue just behind the dovetail. The gap provides strain relief. Without it you have pressure pushing rear of the sight upward. Eventually it will fatigue and break near dovetail.
Hope I’ve hit everything. Hope it is at least helpful.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAwesome run down! Now that I think of it I'm at more like 25k but thats still a lot of rounds. Thanks for the reply!
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The cajuns gonna have a much better trigger. I have a P-07 that I use as my carry gun. The only thing I've done with it is a complete polish job. No new parts. The trigger is well....."ok". But I love the gun. it shoots very accurately for me and is a great little gun and a workhorse. I may be a bit spoiled as I shoot a Shadow 2 (with a lot of work) in competition. If your a trigger nut I would go cajun otherwise the P-07 is a fantastic gun.
One more thing to add. You wouldn't think so but I think the P-07 is less snappy.than the P-01
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Buy a Shadow 2 and shoot production. Then get a couple of extended magazines for three gun. Problem solved.
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3 minutes ago, Laxman2809 said:
I just cannot understand how it is more $$ then the TSO?
have you seen a price yet?
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Intersting. We shall see what the price is on these before I form an opinion.
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Well its that time of year. Figure its about time for a little maintenance. Since I got my S2 last November I've got somewhere in the neighborhood of 30,000 rounds down range.
Over the course of the year I have replaced the slide stop(broken) , recoil spring,hammer spring, ejector (broken), and trigger return spring. I'm fixing to do a full breakdown and cleaning any time now and was wondering what parts might be a good idea to change out as long as I have the gun apart. I'm sure some of you have more rounds through yours. What might I want to think about replacing for next season?
Thanks in advance.
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I'm not meaning to be a prick, but please spare me the comments about reloading safety.
DG 124 RN: OAL for Stock S2 barrel.
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Thanks!! I'll start there!