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On 12/17/2020 at 5:43 AM, mannyc said:
If you have the newer X5 Legion slide a SRO would be a direct mount and a good option.
How new? Do you know when they began shipping with the SRO pattern and do you know if these also allow for DPP direct mount?
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57 minutes ago, motosapiens said:
one of the things I discovered is that the *same* information is available with iron sights, you just have to know it's there and look for it, and it does definitely take a teeny bit of extra time to verify front/rear sight alignment. I only turn 60 this coming year, so I'm still planning on going back to irons in the spring, but I foresee a time in next few years where my winter-time CO distraction will become a full-time thing.
I was just starting to get better at calling shots with my iron sights. But in all honesty, half the time, it was more about how the shot "felt" than seeing the sights misaligned right as they started to lift. What I mean is, my grip felt off or I know I jerked the trigger, etc.
The dot clearly showed me every single thing that happened before, during and after the shot broke. And that was even while shooting fast splits or transitions. I was really surprised by how much you can see. Now I just need to learn to use that feedback in real time. -
4 minutes ago, SGT_Schultz said:
I came to the same conclusion.
At 54 years of age the benefits of reflex sights on handguns are so overwhelming over their predecessors that halfway through my first CO season (2020) I converted all my carry semi autos to optics.
One range session today and this was my biggest takeaway. It was amazing how much information you get from the dot.
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Lots of great information shared. Much is confirmation/validation of stuff I surmised from my experience shooting Production or stuff I've been told. There were a few nuances that were shared that I didn't previously consider. Still, your advice and information has been hugely helpful. Its good to know that my minds in the right place with this shift.
I just got home from the range. I ran the gun and dot through the paces. Did some draws to 2 shots onto an open target and various distances. Draw onto 8" steel at 15 yards. Transitions on paper and steel at various distances. Doubles drill as well. I'm trying not to get ahead of myself but I shot very well. Actually better than with my Production gun. Especially on steel, which has always been my kryptonite, I was ringing it. I am picking up the dot much faster on the draw or transition than irons. I need much less confirmation. Also, the amount of feedback from the dot is a game changer. Calling shots is almost automatic.
The one thing I will have to work on has more to do with change in platform from shooting the CZ SP-01 to the X5 Legion. While shooting doubles at 5 yards, my 2nd shot was consistently about 6" low from the first. The X5 seems to shoot flatter than my SP-01 and requires less from me to bring it back on target. Some minor adjustments and I was able to correct but found myself dropping the 2nd shot when I wasn't consciously focused on it. Nothing more reps with the X5 won't fix.
I also show SHO and WHO a bit. WHO only was a mess. Had trouble finding the dot and also the X5 just felt really odd in my left hand. Need to really work on this in both dry and live fire. SHO was better. Didn't have trouble finding the dot but needs some work transitioning more precisely.
I didn't do any shooting on the move or from odd positions. Will work on that more in dry fire this week and will probably do some it in my next live fire session. -
3 hours ago, rowdyb said:
- shoot the same model as close as you can as you did in Prod with your gear in the same place
- do the dry fire drill where you draw free style, then aim SHO and then WHO
- keep both eyes open for sure
- learn to keep your focal plane down at the target, make a conscious effort
- remind yourself you chose to switch, that you wanted to
- gain trust in the dot as fast as you can by shooting beyond what you feel comfortable in a majority of your live fire practice
- it is not a laser gun sight. do not use a perfect dot as your impetus to pull the trigger. what passes as a refined and unrefined sight picture and sight alignment is markedly different with a dot. learn them for your vision.
- Already not following your advice after the 1st bullet. LOL I was shooting an SP-01 and will now be shooting an X5 Legion. I've been drying firing with it everyday for a week now and it seems like I'm indexing it well. The grip is a little different but the weight feel the same. Gonna have to get used the action though.
- Will definitely work on the SHO and WHO drill. The little I've dry fired in each, it's where I've struggled most to find the dot or should I say, it's where I lose it most.
- When you say " keep your focal plane down at the target", you mean the same as staying target focused? Reads that way to me but wanted to make sure.
- I like the reminder of why I switched. That will help for those times when things aren't going as planned.
- Learn to trust the dot. It seems like this is going to be the biggest hurdle.
5 hours ago, MikeBurgess said:Things to think about when going from Irons to a dot.
Look at the spot you want to hit on the targets NOT the dot!.
Do not wait for a perfect round dot to sit still, most shots are just a stripe of red sliding onto and as the shot breaks off the target.
Look at the spot you want to hit on the targets NOT the dot!.
On close targets where you would just hammer it and never see a "good sight picture" (you see what you need to see) do the same thing you may not see the dot and that's probably ok (see what you need to see)
Look at the spot you want to hit on the targets NOT the dot!.
Dot offset is a thing on close targets know your offset and think about it on close targets.
Look at the spot you want to hit on the targets NOT the dot!.
On your point of remaining target focused. It's actually something I struggled with shooting irons. I'm about to turn 50 so my close up vision is not great. However, thanks to LASIK surgery, I have 20/15 vision. This posed a huge problem for me shooting irons. My target vision is sharp. Sights, not so much. So eyes inherently snap to the target/distance. It was then a battle to shift my focus to my sights. The solution was to get corrective shooting glasses so my front sight was sharp but my distance vision was fuzzy. Made a huge difference.
Since getting my CO gun setup, I've ditched the corrective glasses. I've been dry firing without them. It seems like I naturally am target focused. I recently read about, and have been dry firing, placing a piece of tape over the dot window. Basically, you can see the dot but you can't look through the window. So far, I have no trouble maintaining focus on the target. Again, have only tried this in dry fire. I'm hitting the range this Thursday for my first live fire session. I'm going to run some transition and other drills this way, with the tape, to see if what I'm seeing in dry fire translates over to live fire. I hope so. Sounds like this is one of the critical fundamentals to shooting a dot in our sport.2 hours ago, SGT_Schultz said:I made the transition at the end of last year, and I was in about the same position skills-wise and time in sport-wise as you.
What Mike and Rowdy gave you is the perfect advice.
I think the point about looking at the target has been made...LOL
The point about an acceptable sight picture is sometimes difficult for some to grasp but this is what helped me understand: the dot is showing you all the movement that is in your current hold/grip but hidden by the imprecision of iron sights. If you can blast 2A with .2 splits at 10 yards with irons, you can do it with a dot no matter how much it *seems* to move if your grip is the same.
The dot will also show you every.....single......flaw in your trigger manipulation and natural point of aim. Use that to train.
1 hour ago, zzt said:I'll try a different approach. When you start you WILL be looking at the dot. What that means is you are consciously moving the dot to the area you want to hit. That is SLOW. What you want to do is train/program your subconscious targeting computer to center the dot on where you are looking. When you get it right you are not consciously aiming. You are looking at the spot you want to hit and your subconscious automatically superimposes the dot on that target. It takes time to train your mind, and it takes a little longer for you to trust it. Once you do you will be faster by 10 to 15 seconds in a 5-6 stage match, vs. dot watching. That may not sound like much, but it is HUGE.
I think I got it. It's what I read people referring to as "painting the target" vs seeing the dot stop on the target. I will have to train myself to understand what is acceptable for the target I'm trying to hit. Distance and size. Of course, saying and understanding it, is much easier than actually doing it. I will make this a critical part of my training.
By the way, I'm surprise no one mentioned dumping mags subconsciously before you remember you're not shooting Production. It's one of my biggest concerns. Maybe it won't be but was hoping someone had a golden nugget to share on how to overcome the "Move = Mag Eject" feature of a B-Class Production shooter. LOL. -
Good stuff guys. Keep it coming.
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17 minutes ago, MikeBurgess said:
Things to think about when going from Irons to a dot.
Look at the spot you want to hit on the targets NOT the dot!.
Do not wait for a perfect round dot to sit still, most shots are just a stripe of red sliding onto and as the shot breaks off the target.
Look at the spot you want to hit on the targets NOT the dot!.
On close targets where you would just hammer it and never see a "good sight picture" (you see what you need to see) do the same thing you may not see the dot and that's probably ok (see what you need to see)
Look at the spot you want to hit on the targets NOT the dot!.
Dot offset is a thing on close targets know your offset and think about it on close targets.
Look at the spot you want to hit on the targets NOT the dot!.
Wait. Do I look at the spot I want to hit on the targets or the dot? Your post is not clear. LOL
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Hey all.
Hope everyone is healthy and well. So I'm making the switch to the dark side. Decided to jump to Carry Optics after 2 years of shooting Production. Switching mostly because Production is dead locally. Most of the guys I shoot with all the time have made the jump. There are a couple of good Production shooters left but most are all new shooters. By the way, I'm a B-class shooter in Production.
I was hoping some of you that have made this transition would share any advice on things you wish you knew, that would have made the transition easier. Things like training, stage planning, gear, etc. Anything really.
Thanks!
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49 minutes ago, a_whole_lot_of_freedom said:
I'm not gonna say you MUST get new springs and followers but I can't attest to the capacity or reliability of the stock stuff. However I can tell you what the benefits of getting new ones will be. Grams followers and springs are reduced power (less coils) to allow for more bullets to fit in the tube. The follower is also reduced thickness, which most of the time is what you need to get an extra +1
Got it. Not against getting them. Just wanted to make sure before I ordered. Thank you.
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Hey all.
Setting up an X5 Legion for CO. I have the 17 round Sig mags. I ordered the Henning +6 Base Pads from Stoegers pro shop. However, I am now seeing on the Henning site that new follower and springs are recommended. No mention of this on the Stoeger Pro Shop.
Do I need these or will they work with the stock spring and follower?
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I find the screenname ironic.jesus
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How does it meter for you?
I have a 4lb jug I'm about to get into.
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Regarding the FB page. Make sure you read the rules before you post something for sale. If you get it wrong, you risk the page getting taken down by FB.
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Hey all. Just a follow up to my original question. I ended up buying some Z Clear as some suggested. I've shot several matches, lots of dry and live fire since and it's working great. Thank you everyone for the help.
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Yup. I grab all the no shoots from the matches I shoot. My squad mates call me a cheap bastard and give me a hard time about it but I haven't paid for 1 target in over a year and I'm recycling.Or ask for the old targets after a match. Some are not too shot upSent from my SM-G930U using Tapatalk
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I never really understood why you'd wear one if you weren't sponsored until I got a gift certificate and ordered this one.
Now that I have one I realize why people wear them. They're really comfortable and keep you pretty cool. It's been hot as balls last few matches and the wicking qualities and the vented material really helps.
I will buy more for sure.
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I thought the one by Double Alpha can be attached to the press. I'm pretty sure but could bewrong.
I don't think the Dillon can. At least it's not intended to be. Maybe retrofitting it somehow.
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Happened to me. I was pretty pissed. Then tried it a 3rd time and the order went through. 5 boxes of Winchester SPP.Add primers to cart, try to pay, there aren't enough primers to fulfill your order, repeat. Eventuaalllly it worked. There's one box still left.
What a rollercoaster of emotions!
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You can also try one of these. Just make sure it fits the dimensions. I use one of these to hold an iPad on the tripod.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01G934L2O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_1mUmFbG8C66F4
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Don't own one or even seen one in person but looking at the photo, seems like you could take a piece of lumber that will fit across the bottom and snugly into between the legs. Then insert a threaded coupling into the center of the piece of lumber that will attached to the tripod head.
Hope I'm making sense.
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I haven't shot CO yet, Production shooter. This is also only my 2nd year shooting USPSA. I do have a question for you guys though.
Is it more of the lower class Production shooters moving to CO at your clubs?
That's what I've noticed around the local clubs to me. Most of the guys that moved to CO were D & C class shooters. Mostly from Production but some from Limited as well. It's typically the division with the most shooters at the local matches now.
What's interesting is that I shot a match up North last weekend. This club draws a lot of local talent. Quite a number A class and higher. It was refreshing to see that the Production division was by the largest at the match. Nice to shoot along side and learn from great Production shooters.
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The whole "is it worth it" thing is very personal. I only load 9mm. It's what I shoot in USPSA and reloading to me is a means to an end. Its certainly "worth it" to me.
My cost to make a 9mm round is 10.5 cents. Even pre-apocalypse, it was still saving me about 8 cents per round when compared to cheap, factory FMJ. I shoot about 20-30k a year so that's a significant chunk of change. I've heard this same cheap anmo is selling for 30-50 cent per round currently. That's insane. I don't know for sure because I don't care. I reload. [emoji39]
Now, I'm not including my personal time in that cost per round. I probably spend about 3-4 hours per week with reloading "stuff". This includes picking up my brass, processing it and then actually loading boolits. I don't count this time as cost because it would be idle time for me anyhow. It would be occupied by something way less productive if I didn't reload.
But there are other benefits to reloading beyond hard savings. Your post alludes to one of them; being able to produce ammo on demand provided you were wise I didn't buy components like you would bread and milk. In other words, you buy in bulk for several months of supply instead of buying components on demand.
Another huge benefit is that you can taylor a consistent load to your needs, gun, sport, division, etc. This is a huge benefit in my opinion. I never have to worry about ammo not cycling or running in my gun well like you would every time you buy a new batch or brand of ammo.
I'm sure someone will post the whole, "you don't save money you just shoot more" adage. That's always been a silly premise to me. You do save regardless of if you shoot more, less or the same. However, you have to determine if the savings is a fair trade to the hassle you'll take on with reloading.
Hope this helps.
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Haven't seen any slowing at the USPSA matches here in California. They fill up immediately. Most level 1 club matches have >90 shooters. Level 2s have wait lists.
I do know a couple of guys that don't reload that are scrounging for ammo but they seem to find it.
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WAIT ONE MINUTE...
So did I just read that if you're classified in one Division, once you have enough classifier scores is another Division, you CANNOT classify lower than one level down from your other Division?
So if I'm an M class in, say, PCC. Then I decide to shoot Production. I will classify as A class regardless of my actual average classifier score? What if I classify in a 3rd division? Same?
#mindblown
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Henning +6 Base Pad - Question
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Just an update. I ran the Henning +6 base pads on the Sig 17 round mags with the stock springs and followers. I had no issues with feeding or any other issues. Albeit, only ran maybe about 400 rounds so I don't really know for sure how reliable. Could only load 22 rounds with this setup.
I have since switched to the grams springs and followers. Again, no issues with feeding, etc over 2 range sessions. About 650 rounds. Can load them up with 23 rounds. Although, that 23 round is a little tough to get in and also needs a little nudge to chamber.