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1 hour ago, PokerNGuns said:
Did you ever try change in guide rod/spring weight?
No, the current spring worked fine when shooting Federal syntech. Did you change it?
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On 4/4/2019 at 12:01 AM, Xav91 said:
Yes I believe I did, but I need few more days to be sure. I had to do a little fitting out of the first set. Mag aligns perfectly. I left enough play they can go in and out easily. Shot 250 rds at practice without any issue so I took it to shoot a sanctioned IDPA match this past weekend. The gun ran perfectly well.
I have been traveling since so I have not taken the gun down to clean and inspect it, but I will and post an update once I'm back home. So prior to inspection, i think the functionality issue is solved.
So, little update. Yes, the new guides fixed the lineup issue. However, there was definitely more going on. I ended up sending it back to walther last week.
I let you know what's the diagnosis and what they fix...
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9 minutes ago, thx1138jt said:
Yes I believe I did, but I need few more days to be sure. I had to do a little fitting out of the first set. Mag aligns perfectly. I left enough play they can go in and out easily. Shot 250 rds at practice without any issue so I took it to shoot a sanctioned IDPA match this past weekend. The gun ran perfectly well.
I have been traveling since so I have not taken the gun down to clean and inspect it, but I will and post an update once I'm back home. So prior to inspection, i think the functionality issue is solved.
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On 3/22/2019 at 6:09 AM, Zmaniac said:
Xav91, I'm having FTE as well, shows up every 100-150 rounds as double feed with empty case loose in the chamber. Have the same loose mags pushing to left, same witness mark on slide, but no noticeable mark on mags. Not clear to me how the slide interference would cause my double feed, but certainly can see that it could interfere with cycling forward, which is a critical step with this pistol needing to cock the striker spring at the end of forward movement. To try to fix the failures to extract before seeing your post, I increased tension on the extractor, noticed it was straight, while the same part on PPQ M2 had a little curve along the tail. Added a slight curve. No further issue seen in next 500 rounds. Testing tension by having extractor hold onto a round seemed to be fine before adjustment, however. Was just about to send it back to Walther.
Looking at my CZ SP-01 Shadow Custom, would note it had various surfaces rounded down from factory by the custom shop to improve function. Looking the same place as the witness mark, both corners of that portion of the slide are ground down much more than you are showing from either the shop or usage. Only a slight amount of wiggle play in the CZ mags.
Thank you for the info. I haven't shot the gun again and still have not send it to walther. I have a big match this weekend, so I ended up redrawing the plastic guides (thicker) and I'm having them printed. I should have them tomorrow. That should solve the wiggle problem...
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1 hour ago, Chrome308 said:
I really appreciate the info on this forum. I already put money down on a SF, so naturally I'm very interested in this issue as it seems like it could be a serious design defect.
So how many FTEs are we talking about here? Anybody have significant numbers of rounds downrange with NO failures? I'm seeing echos of this on the Walther forums now, and with only 2-300 guns out there now, that's not good for the next batch of 2,000 due in a few weeks here.
I'm not in a rush to get a new competition gun, the new SF just seemed like exactly what the doctor ordered, but I won't accept a gun that malfunctions once a match. I've been using a Walther P99 AS for literally 10 years now, and I can't remember how many years its been since I saw a failure of any kind. Side to side play on the magazine measures ~0.065" or 1.6mm and there is really no way for the magazine to contact the slide at either extreme.Its not good news that Walther took one gun back and decided it couldn't reproduce the issue. That tells me they may be in denial or completely unaware as of yet there there is an issue.
Should I refuse to accept the gun that I paid for from the dealer when it shows up?
The ammo has nothing to do with it, nor does the guide rod or recoil springspring. And I think I am getting less FTE as the gun is literally getting "break-in". I think they can solve the issue easily by replacing the plastic guide that are inside the mag well with thicker ones. I just won't accept that the gun is getting damage after only 1000 rds... I will post what response I get from Walther.
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23 minutes ago, Jeff O said:
Went up to the range and shot the gun again. Only used the mags that came with the gun. No issues. Extra Walther PPQ mags no bueno. ??????
I measured the mag from my Q5 and from Q5 SF with a micrometer. There are exactly the same. I have the same interference with all the mags I have.
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15 hours ago, Xav91 said:
Hi everyone, sorry in advance, I'm probably going to bum everybody. the failure to extract has nothing to do with the recoil spring or guide rod. I have had this issue randomly since I got the gun about a month ago. I thought it just needed a break-in period. Now, after about 1200 rds, I still have the problem and more.
What I found is that the magazine is interfering with the slide. The magazine well is oversized I think. It allow too much clearance. On mine, the mag can move about 2.5/3mm laterally. It's huge! On the polymer Q5, it's only 1mm max. My slide already has witness marks. I talked to Walther today, I'm shipping mine to them tomorrow. I don't really how they can fix it, unless it's those plastic guides that are not thick enough. I made a video of the issue, I will post the link as soon ad it's uploaded tonight.
I just uploaded the video and some pics on youtube. Sorry, it's a bit long. Let me know if anyone has the same issue.
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1 hour ago, PokerNGuns said:
Hi everyone, sorry in advance, I'm probably going to bum everybody. the failure to extract has nothing to do with the recoil spring or guide rod. I have had this issue randomly since I got the gun about a month ago. I thought it just needed a break-in period. Now, after about 1200 rds, I still have the problem and more.
What I found is that the magazine is interfering with the slide. The magazine well is oversized I think. It allow too much clearance. On mine, the mag can move about 2.5/3mm laterally. It's huge! On the polymer Q5, it's only 1mm max. My slide already has witness marks. I talked to Walther today, I'm shipping mine to them tomorrow. I don't really how they can fix it, unless it's those plastic guides that are not thick enough. I made a video of the issue, I will post the link as soon ad it's uploaded tonight.
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5 hours ago, echotango said:
Reduced the grip for wife's very small hands.
Nice job, that looks great!
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5 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said:
I don’t own a metal gun - I prefer the poly frames because that’s what carry and what I want to master. I’m just repeating what someone else says works.
Apparently there’s a dimple on the takedown lever that needs to fit into a detent in the head of the rod. That’s what I read. On the interent. In this post. Aaaaand that’s all I’ve got on this one.
Well their PPQs all come with a 17ish pound spring their engineers keep saying is 11 pounds. So yeah. I wouldn’t go by their testimony.
The SF has a take down lever that has a little knob that come engage into the guide rod "dimple" when you lock it. If you use an aftermarket rod without that dimple, you cannot completely lock the lever into proper position since the little knob has nowhere to fit... I'll post a couple pics later
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4 hours ago, MemphisMechanic said:
Why are you worried about losing a pinch of weight in the guide rod? It won’t affect the gun’s reliablity and it’s already a heavy frame.
Losing half an ounce would be a good thing for the CO shooters.
There's about 20 gram difference (lighter) between the rod I have in the poly and the factory in the SF. I think that's enough to change the balance of the gun a little bit. If it was only a couple grams ok, but 20 is quite a bit... just my thoughts...
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2 hours ago, Kletus said:
Is there a difference in the trigger parts for the 5" PPQ and the Q5 SF? Ran up on the SF a few weeks ago and bought it on sight, but I've had some health issues that have stopped me from shooting it more than once. I believe I will like the SF better once I figure out a smaller grip option. Right now the grip panel is a little too big for me. My main issue is that I'm completely disappointed in the trigger on the SF vs the trigger on my early 5" PPQ. My PPQ has one of the original Springco trigger return springs (before there was a 2 spring kit) that reduces pull to right at 3 lbs. On the PPQ... there is initial takeup.. but once you hit the wall it breaks like glass and there is very little movement to reset. It's darn near perfect. The SF on the other hand.... when i hit the wall with it... there is noticeable creep before the shot breaks and definitely more movement for reset. It's not terrible.. but nowhere near as good as the trigger on my PPQ's. I tried the lighter trigger return spring on the SF and the trigger moves back before the trigger safety deactivates. I either need a lighter spring for the trigger safety or I'll have to play with modifying the trigger safety if I want to use the lighter spring. Are the PPQ and the Q5 SF trigger parts interchangeable? If I could have my PPQ trigger in my SF I'd be extremely happy with my purchase.
I believe they're mostly the same parts. The only difference I noticed on the 1st take down is what I would called the "housing" where the sear is located. That's a bit different, otherwise everything seem the same. I put the same spring than the one I have in My q5 poly and did some polishing. Now both guns are very similar. I think the sf just need some rds through it to cactch up on the smoothness...
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Thank you all for the responses!!
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15 minutes ago, Bryamill said:
Do you happen to know which aftermarket guide rod? I believe I saw something in an earlier post about drilling a dimple in it?
I would be careful replacing the guide rod. The factory one in the SF is very heavy compare to the aftermarket one that I have in the polymer q5. If you find one with the correct weight, then yes, you just have to drill a little dimple in the back.
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15 minutes ago, echotango said:
I believe it is 17#. It is in one of the pages early on.
Thank you @echotango
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Does anyone know what is the stock recoil spring weight in the SF? I need to tune the gun to a lighter one for sure, But I'd like to know where I'm starting from...
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So, some updates. Gun went back to Walther. Impressive turn around, they got it back to me in within a week! Changed the barrel and bent extractor but nothing for the mag/magwell fitting issue. So I called in to ask. The service guy said that the engineering in Germany is aware of the issue. It's a manufacturing issue and they are looking on how to solve it... so my updated plastic guides are back in...