Dwight Stearns
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So u can have direct sighting (sights move to your dominant eye)with a target focus (sights will be blurry but still able to line up) would this be a good way to practice with both eyes open
This is the way I have shot for years and it works great for me. When shooting two eyed, target focus is natural because it is something we do thousands of times every day. We all started using target focus around the age of two when we started pointing at things. A big thing with target focus is even though our visual focus is on the target, our mental focus or concentration must be on seeing a proper sight picture and placing that picture onto the target. Then as long as we don't blink, we can see the sights lift in recoil and can call the shot.
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I'm glad you tried the tongue trick and am happy it worked for you. I am the "inventor" of the technique. It really does work.
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To me indirect sighting means the sights are not aligned with your shooting eye. By definition then direct sighting would mean the sights are aligned with your shooting eye without respect to point of focus. Point shooting or any shooting where the sights or gun are in your peripheral vision would be indirect sighting.
Dwight.
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Shot fired out of a rifled shotgun barrel produces doughnut shaped patterns due to the rotation of the shot column and centrifugal force. At one time Hastings even made a barrel with what appeared to be rifling except it was straight. The idea was to prevent any rotation at all for better patterns. Don't know if it helped or not.
There are some non saboted slugs that are made for both smooth bored guns and rifled barrels but they seem to me to be a trade off and don't work great in either.
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Same here Tim. Good posts. Good debate.
Stay safe
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I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree. I can and do call my shots having good feedback on sight picture and trigger while focusing on the target. I do it at speed and my results speak for themselves. Again, if it works for you, whatever "it" is, do it. Even if you are told it won't work.
good shooting
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I'll answer for bountyhunter histate. The merrit optical sighter is an attachment for your shooting glasses for bullseye shooting. It has an adjustable hole in it (like a camera
aperture). By adjusting the diameter if the hole it increases your visions depth of field helping you better focus on both the target and the front sight at the same time. It's used in bullseye shooting. Doesn't work in practical shooting though.
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I don't know why you would want to stay out of these threads bountyhunter. What you said is very well stated and exactly correct. My only disagreement is with calling target focus indirect sighting when we bring the sights into alignment with our dominant eye. Target focus works for us and many others and if it works ......
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I agree with cha lee. My accuracy sucks when I shoot while my sights are in my peripheral vision. That's why I rarely shoot that way. I almost always shoot with my sights directly in my line of vision.
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Front sight focus is more accurate than target focus but we are talking degrees here. Bullseye shooters have known for decades that for the utmost in accuracy, you have to focus on the front sight but bullseye shooters are worried about hitting a one inch X ring at 25 and 50 yards. Most of the time we aren't held to those standards. Usually we are trying to hit a 6" by 10" A zone. Front sight focus with both eyes open is very difficult for most. (Just look at the number of posts about putting tape on the glasses lens of their non-shooting eye) Front sight focus isn't natural. Target focus is.
The problem most shooters have with two eyed front sight focus is that when they bring their retinal focus to the front sight, their binocular focus (eye convergence ) goes along with it. This causes the problem of seeing two rear sights and two targets. Since front sight focus isn't natural, it's hard to quickly identify which is the correct target image. With target focus (both eyes open ) one sees two front sights and two rear sights. Since target focus is natural it's much easier to pick out the correct sight image and superimpose that image onto the target.
I'm not saying front sight focus is wrong. I'm just saying that target focus isn't necessarily wrong either.
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It is quite possible to call your shots when using target focus when shooting with iron sights. It is actually just as easy as using front sight focus. With target focus, one must concentrate on seeing that the front sight is properly alligned in the rear sight window and superimpose that alignment onto the target. Just like one does with front sight focus. It's just that the sights are fuzzy. One calls the shot by observing where the sights are when the sights lift from recoil.
Partyboy, you are onto what I have found with target focus. Some form of front sight augmentation (like fiber optics ) greatly improves your speed and accuracy when using target focus. It has been years since I have focused on my front sight and yes I do call my shots at any distance. Partyboy, if it is working for you, don't fix it, it ain't broke.
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I have noticed this too. My latest "6" appears smaller than my other "6's". I would guess it is probably a 4. I don't know how they keep them straight. If you look at the hole made for the light to come through in the module, it's hard to see any different between a 4 and a 12.
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Double check to make sure the gun is sighted in for you. You say the sights were installed by a Glock armorer who may have simply installed the sights to the factory position. If your Glock is a. 40, I have found that about a third of all Glock. 40's shoot to the left straight from the factory. (9's and. 45's don't seem to have that issue )
If it isn't the sights then it has to be something technical that you are doing that is causing movement immediately before firing.
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If you go with a dot that is too large, it's harder to call your hits (or misses) when you are near the edge of the plate. For that reason I don't like anything larger than an 8 minute dot and personally prefer a 6.
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When you are shooting with both eyes open, what do you focus on? I have heard from some people who say focus on the front sight which leaves the target blurry and others have said focus on the target which leaves the front sight blurry. Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?
Most really good shooters focus on the front sight whether they are using one or both eyes but there are a number that use target focus as well. Either way you have to be mentally focused on seeing a good enough sight picture to shoot A's. I am kind of an old guy in shooting and I went through closing one eye to squinting my weak eye to finally both eyes open and target focus. For me though I found I need some kind of front sight enhancement such as fiber optic to be able to shoot A's quickly. Which ever way you visually focus, your concentration must be on the sight picture.
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When you are shooting with both eyes open, what do you focus on? I have heard from some people who say focus on the front sight which leaves the target blurry and others have said focus on the target which leaves the front sight blurry. Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?
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The blink is a subconscious defensive reaction. The human mind does this to protect the all important eyesight. Several years ago I came up with a trick to stop the reflexive blink. Try pressing your tongue to the roof of your mouth as hard as you can as you fire. This distracts the subconscious and the blink doesn't occur. This trick usualy works by itself but sometimes shooters needs to add the extra trick of just shooting into a berm (no specific target). While shooting into the berm visually focus on seeing the front sight lift and see the brass rejecting. Shoot at a pace of about two shots per second. The combination of the two tricks has worked for everyone I've used it on. Let me know how it works for you.
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So far all I have in stock are the Federal low recoil slugs so my tests are somewhat limited. Still, I can live with 3" left at 50 if I have to. The choke tubes have been factory tubes but i plan on trying the light modified as soon as possible.
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I gave the affinity another workout with slugs this week. It is grouping 5 shots into 3" at 50 yds with the group centered about 3" left of POA. This was with the improved. cylinder choke tube. Without the extension the group was about the same size but about 6" high left. I tried the modified choke tube and it grouped at POA but the group doubled. I just got a light modified and will give that a try next. I now have 265 rounds through it (100 Walmart Federals, 100 reloads, 25 low recoil buckshot and 40 low recoil slugs). The gun shoots great. Zero malfunctions. Now I just need to learn to load it. Oh well, that's what winters are for.
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Oh by the way, those are two sweet looking Rugers. Look out competition.
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Hi Dave
It was great squadding with you at the Pennsylvania match. I agree with you and ICON_636 about the Barecave mount. FYI I Believe the next run of mounts will be hard anodised so. Barry keeps working on making a great mount even better.
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I put another 150 rounds through the affinity. No issues whatsoever. Don't know what the Briley folks have issues with but I can't find any.
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I recently purchased an affinity for 3G. I looked into others like the Benelli, versa max or mossberg JM but found they were either not affordable for me or seemed to be unavailable. In my research I stumbled onto the Affinity. After researching it I found one and made the jump. My first impression was I made a good choise. The fit and finish were good and it handled and mounted great. I have an extension tube and will begin modifications to include lifter weld, shell stop polish, loading port bevel and installing an oversize bolt release. Right now I only have about 100 rounds through it (mostly walmart Federals plus a few slugs and reloads). No issues so far. Function is perfect. Recoil seems right there with my buddy's Benelli M2. Can't wait to really put it through it's paces but the weather is starting to turn colder. At this point I think it's a really good shotgun. Well worth the money.
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If you can point your finger, you can pick out the correct gun.
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Don't be afraid to try the tongue trick. It may sound dumb but it does work.
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