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Just received a DW Valor V-Bob in 9MM that I had Keith make for me to match the one I have in .45. Rumor is that DW will have this in the 2016 catalog. Just starting to break it in, put the 1st set of rounds through it on Friday and it is an awesome shooting and handling gun. Of course, it is a 4.25" as PalmBeach1 says.