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S2 OR with SRO
in CZ
Excellent. Thank you. I have one of a torque wrench for this purpose. My SRO is currently on an 85 Combat, but enough is enough, and it was time for me to get a real competition gun!
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S2 OR with SRO
in CZ
I just ordered an optics-ready Shadow 2. I have a Trijicon SRO red dot that I will put on it. Can anyone tell me if I need an adapter plate for this? Or does the S2 come with popular adapters, perhaps?
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I think they saw my post and decided to take vengeance. (OK, not really.) I ordered a bunch of small parts for about $76. When the charge came through my bank, a second charge from CZ followed it for about $400. I called CZ to say, "Hey, it looks like you charged me for something erroneously." The conversation ended with, "We don't see this. We have to look into it and call you back." That hasn't happened. So, currently out $400 for nothing. Thanks, high quality CZ online experience!
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21 hours ago, Tok36 said:
The CZ USA webstore is back up and working as of 11/4/20.
Yes! Thanks. I ordered $75 worth of springs and pins.
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On 10/29/2020 at 5:07 PM, Matt1911 said:
You must be real popular at all the matches with that attitude.
No need to be a smartass, bud.
Since a website you are looking for is not in working order, the next common sense thing to do would be to call the company and ask to order the parts you want. I guess technology of 2020 has made the phone call obsolete though.
Well, yes, it has. It's one thing if a site goes down for a bit; that's understandable. But it's been weeks, if not months. e-commerce in the year 2020 does have much greater expectations.
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19 hours ago, jkf74 said:
Any particular reason you’re not a fan of CZ Custom? That’s rare in my experience.
I was much less than pleased with an experience with them involving milling a slide for a dot. I don't want to go into details for risk of bashing them here, but I will say that I wound up giving up on their quality and having something machined locally to get something reliable.
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19 hours ago, Matt1911 said:
Have you tried calling?
Like, with a telephone? No. I also haven't tried the mail order catalog, since it's 2020.
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What's the deal with CZ's online store, or "webstore" as they call it. I've been non-urgently needing to order a few miscellaneous parts for my CZ, but their store has had the same generic message for at least a month now:
So, if I just need some miscellaneous things, such as factory grip panels, front sight pin, slide stop pin, where do I go? Not a fan at CZ-Custom and CJW doesn't seem to have every OEM part like CZ had when their store was up and running.
Thanks
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I never noticed the responses about the grease usage. Interesting. And some videos are classic.
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1 hour ago, motosapiens said:
you may be aware that motorcycle racing has different displacement classes. little girls and timid or inexperiernced people can ride smaller weaker bikes, and grown-azz men can ride bigger ones. None of them have much relation to the bikes we use for our everyday commute. It's simply a sport.. shooting is the same. There are plenty of divisions for weaklings to shoot, and there are also divisions for fit and healthy people to shoot.
The continued theme that somehow shooting major makes you a tough guy is really quite amusing, like y'all are shooting 50BMG pistols, and minor guys are shooting Airsoft. I sometimes shoot limited major (.45), and I dress in a muscle shirt those days to show off how incredibly powerful I am.
The fact remains, major/minor is an arbitrary relic from the past, and it will go away
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4 minutes ago, RJH said:
All of that matters not though, games have rules. Quit whining and play by the rules or find a new game
I'm playing the online forum game, where the rules are that discussion of opinions is a primary function. When I play the USPSA game at the range, I don't discuss opinions of rules.
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14 minutes ago, Racinready300ex said:
If you think uspsa has anything to do with EDC you're playing the wrong game.
I understand that. But, what is the point of power factor? If it doesn't have roots in the belief that higher power factor yields more effective damage to flesh, or points to a cardboard target, then what's the point? Perhaps we can have a continuously variable scoring system where:
C point value = (chrono'd velocity * bullet weight) /125,000 * 3
such that if you're shooting with exactly 125 PF, you get 3 points. But, if you up it a little to 135, now you get 3.24 points, 153 PF will give you 3.672 points for a charlie, 169 PF yields 4.056 points, and then everyone can play their own game as far as how high they want to go instead of having this arbitrary line that exists between major and minor now.
Obviously that's an absurd suggestion, but it also shines light on the absurdity of major and minor scoring.
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4 minutes ago, RJH said:
A. that is dumb because people drive Top Fuel Dragsters in competition but you don't see if many on the road going back and forth to work. And B, even if it wasn't dumb I shoot major and my carry gun has major and then some ammo.
If people drove cars as a means of protecting their lives, and it was deemed that the minimum requirement for effective protection was a top fuel dragster, you would. My point is that we all know through the endless, ridiculous caliber debates out there, that 9mm is just as effective at .40 or .45. So, shooting major is done only for scoring, which is absurd.
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If you shoot major in USPSA and carry minor in your EDC gun, you subconsciously agree that major/minor power factor is irrelevant.
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47 minutes ago, MikeBurgess said:
I assume you are also getting rid of power factor scoring at the same time? would 25cal be ok in all divisions?
with the above assumptions you have just made ALL guns currently used in USPSA competition non competitive with the new high cap 25cal 40PF guns that hold 40+ rounds that would be developed in short order.
actually the above would not really happen, the sport would die almost instantly
good luck
If the gun fits in the box, great. If people started showing up with those guns, I'd be adding lots of knock down steel to my stages.
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10 minutes ago, zzt said:
I think you are both nuts. You cannot effectively merge any of those Divisions, especially with full mag rules. That tells all the SS shooters to stay home, because 8 rounds vs. 17 or more is a distinct disadvantage. SS minor won't do because a 10-round mag won't fit in the box. Merging Limited is just as silly. Those shooters will simply download to minor and wipe everyone up.
And while you are being silly, since you want to allow single action in Production, why not CO?
Oh, definitely any action would be fine in CO.
Again, the categories are basically:
Ridiculous guns (open)
Normal guns (any non-open pistol, even a little 25 caliber prostitute pistol if you prefer)
Normal guns with optics
Revolvers for the boomers
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3 minutes ago, waktasz said:
Production is still popular(ish) and can absorb SS into it and still be fine
It definitely is, but I think the distinction between limited and production is unnecessary. (I failed to mention that there'd be no such thing as downloading magazines, so the distinction with fully loaded mags is unnecessary, IMO.)
Crazy guns
normal guns
normal guns with optics
Revolvers
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14 minutes ago, shred said:
So why revolver and not something like single-stack since there are way more stackers than revos?
For my reelection campaign, I'll merge revolvers into limited. I figure you basically have guns that are just all out craziness (open), guns that people can reasonably carry and shoot without having to have fancy shirts, and then that same category, but with an optic.
Uh oh, there's a problem. There's at least one person in Pennsylvania with an optic on his revolver! Pffft, open.
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2 hours ago, zzt said:
Honestly, I do not understand what all the fuss is about. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. If you elect to shoot Limited minor because all you have is a 9mm, that is your choice. Shoot it and accept the scoring handicap. Stop whining about eliminating major just so you can be more competitive.
If you want to be competitive in a current Division, man up and buy the right tools. Otherwise stay home and knit.
I don't think that's necessarily the only possible reason people would like to do away with power factor. I can say that, because it's not my reason. I don't really care about being competitive. There will always be people I shoot better than and people who I shoot better than. That's all fine. All I want is to shoot as well as I can as an individual. The major/minor thing is just an unnecessary categorization.
- Open minor
- Open major
- Limited minor
- Limited major
- Revolver minor
- Revolver major
- Single stack minor
- Single stack major
- Carry Optics [minor]
- Production [minor]
- PCC [minor]
(Forget L10. That shouldn't exist on Earth.)
When I get elected in November, we'll have:
- Open
- Limited
- Carry Optics
- Revolver
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I think the idea is to get the gun that you personally shoot the best and also fits into the targeted division. The S2 fits that description for many, many people, because it's a truly fabulous gun.
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3 minutes ago, Sarge said:
Do you even know anything about Open guns? They are built and tuned to run MAJOR. You can’t just load mouse fart loads and stick them in an Open gun..
That must be why there's no such thing as open minor.
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49 minutes ago, Racinready300ex said:
It's a great idea to punish all the guys who picked a division they liked, and spent the time and money required to be competitive so we can attract guys who want to shoot fancy guns but don't want to put the time and money into it to be competitive. What's not reasonable about that? I mean sure those dudes like major scoring, and spent 10k on a open gun designed to run 170 PF ammo. I'm sure they wont mind getting another gun with less holes in the barrel or a smaller comp or whatever, just so they can basically play 170mm CO.
Another option, guys who don't want to shoot major could just pick a division where they can be competitive with minor. Crazy town right? Not many come to mind, but they could try CO, Prod, SS, Rev and PCC. Hell, L-10 nationals was won once using minor shoot that, beat 4 guys and you can probably be the Area champion.
Use less powder, lower the PF, and shoot the same $10,000 gun and still be competitive. PF segmentation and scoring are ridiculous, period.
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20 minutes ago, sc68cal said:
Yes i'm sure with a voting member base with thousands of dollars of raceguns invested in major scoring will vote for your platform. I too would put a quarter into a machine that kicks me in the groin.
I didn't say I'll eliminate open, just stop with the power factor nonsense. People can continue to shoot their $10,000 guns all they want. If they're that worried about the being at a disadvantage now because someone with slightly lighter recoil will have the same scoring numbers, then stop shooting Cs and Ds.
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When I get voted in as USPSA president this November, I'm eliminating the whole major/minor PF business across the board. It's total nonsense, and it's at the root of all these debates about divisions. We all know that if I shoot someone in the kidney with a .40, it will not have a 33% greater effect on that person's life than if it had been a 9. Same with the forehead.
Trijicon SRO availability
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I just went to go order myself another Trijicon SRO, and I'm finding that they just don't exist anywhere. Some places say, "Oh, we might have one we can ship in a few months" and what not. Is there an SRO shortage in the world too? Perhaps I should find a new hobby and get into things of which there is no shortage, such as fear.