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Load up both and run the same drills on the same day using each separately. The times should determine if there is a significant enough difference to make the change.
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That's the disadvantage of a short barrel with poppel holes ...Well, one of the disadvantages.
But, you are already way past the "upper limit" of Silhouette -
keep plodding - you want to get up to PF 170, and lots of people do it.
Just work up slowly with a chrono and keep watching the primers.
Good luck with it.
What, I can't hear you. This gun is obnoxiously loud.
Seriously though, when you say that it's past the upper limit do you mean past what western powder publishes or past where common sense kicks in? Later in your post you imply there is some safety margin left, so I'm a little confused.
The two people I know have been using 7.7-7.8 for a number of years with no ill effects. I haven't been able to find any references beyond 7.8 here or elsewhere which is why I'm asking.
I get that people are reluctant to share for liability reasons.
Is there a better powder choice?
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Weird.
Shooting right handed, and moving uprange as fast as I could, I had no big issues pointing my right arm across my chest and twisting a bit to shoot to my left ("right" side of the range). It was much more awkward to twist to my right (range left), going in the other direction. It was like I needed to turn my body much more to be able to shoot to my right.
Ok that makes sense and I agree with you as that's been my experience. Thanks for clarifying range right and left. I was initially confused, which is not unusual!
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Why the dummy??
To be sure that the load you want to use fits after reaming. Otherwise the gunsmith is working blind.
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I certainly have weaknesses...
... Any suggestions on how to cope with shooting to the strong hand side while retreating?
Strong hand retreat is easier for me that retreating to the weak side. Keep the gun up, turn into it and you can watch it making sure it stays pointed down range while not sweeping yourself.
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I recently purchased a used open gun. At the recommendation of several experienced local open shooters I bought Silhouette, SRP (CCI), and 124 gr MG CMJ.
The suggested load is 1.17 COAL and 7.7-7.8 gr.
Now the dilemma......
The used gun is a commander length with 3 poppel holes and a 3 chamber comp.
7.7 gr averaged 1306 fps or 162 pf SD was low at 9
7.8 gr averaged 1325 fps or 164 pf SD was low at 10
I searched, and wasn't able to come up with an upper limit. Realizing that velocity likely isn't linear, but attempting to extrapolate would put a 170 pf load at ~8.0 gr.
I don't see any signs of high pressure looking at fired primers, even through this isn't an exact measurement.
Has anybody used Silhouette in a shorty with poppel holes?
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Pdf copy here http://www.uspsa.org/document_library/rules/2014/Feb%202014%20Handgun%20Rules.pdf
Save it to your phone and it's always available.
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Vortex viper 1-4 is 499 everywhere, and if you look around for a little while or find a discount code or sale from one of the big retailers you can save some extra coin.
Watch the classifieds here, often can find this scope or one of its direct competitors for even less than that.
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I'm certainly no expert, but in my opinion one objective of training is to determine what's truly the fastest. As an example I used to shoot arrays left to right unless it was clearly stupid. I actually shoot faster right to left. So, I've made an adjustment. It's been said lots of different ways but the timer doesn't lie.
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I have 500 bayou sitting on my bench, any recipes?
What weight, and what powders? Need to make minor, or just plinking?
For coated 124/5 3.6-3.8 gr TG at 1.1-1.5 is a range. Plunk test for COAL and start on the low side using chrono.
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Any of you guys loading 1.18 or longer use the EGW 7 hole chamber checker? My brass is gauging fine before loading it, will only seat to the rim when gauging. Wondering if the bayou bullets are catching on the throat of the chamber checker or if I've got something else going on. I'll hopefully have time to pull my barrel tonight for a plunk test.
That's been my experience. Definitely plunk check and provided they pass that you're good.
Basically I use mine as pass/fail and to visually check primers. Split brass or other serious problem will stick out significantly. The "good" rounds vary from flush to ~rim width proud. All of those easily pass plunk tests in my pistols.
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What's a good timer to get (not an app but actual timer)?
Competition electronics pocket pro
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Depends on if you're shooting production or limited. See 8.1 handgun ready conditions.
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Do some research on the ar 10. You'll find that it's not as easy as building an ar15 as there is no mil spec standard. I bought an aero lower then had to get an aero upper and lower parts kit to do it right as even the lower parts are different by manufacturer
^^^this some good information here
https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_121/492215_AR15_Variants__Caliber_specific_FAQs.html
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If you put the lanolin based lube just on the outside of the case where its needed, how does powder get stuck to it?
True, but I prefer quick and easy or down and dirty fast spary and shake. OneShot allows you to do that with a bunch of screwing around. To each their own, as long as you are happy with it
If you spritz some of the lanolin into a ziplock, add cases and shake it all stays on the outside. Fast and easy. Once I started doing that powder sticking went away.
One shot gets sprayed right on the cases.
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It seems more and more that there are fewer round nose and truncated bullets available for reloading and more flat nose bullets taking their place. Neither of my STIs like them in a 10mm length. FTF seems to be the norm. Is this Uncle Sam shoving something else down our throat? Does anybody have any knowledge of what's going on?
Berrys makes a 180 gr round shoulder. I had FTF issues with a dan Wesson 40 single stack and before I sorted out some of the other issues the Berrys round shoulder fed reliably.
Ultimately you should be able to solve underlying issues and be able to feed other bullet profiles.
My Dan Wesson SS now feeds bayou coated 180s 100%. I'd call that profile TC and that combined with coated feeding harder than plated or jacketed shows that you can sort out various FTF issues.
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Two not mentioned yet but worth a look are Leatherhead and Bayou. I've used both in addition to the others listed. They all work fine. There are some subtle differences in price, shipping and customer service but that's about it. My suggestion is always to purchase a few sample packs from a few different vendors and go from there.
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With regards to the Redding micrometer seating die - I have one in 40, and plan to get one in 9mm as well.
It isn't that you need the precision, but it does make it easier if you change bullet profiles.
In my case, I'll be loading both minor (coated) and major (CMJ) so being able to set COAL without a lot of messing around will make it worth it.
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Build one. It's easy and rewarding.
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Or look for a lightly used one on the classifieds here.
If you're like many of us you'll be changing parts out as you go anyway.
You should be able to find a very serviceable rifle at that price point.
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Agreed. But, as much as I loved OS, I switched to home made lanolin based lube because it works so much better. The only problem with it is the amount of residue left on loaded rounds. And it doesn't take much, so very little is used.I dont bother cleaning the OneShot off my 9mm or 45 when I load. It only takes just a small amount, so if you are getting alot of residual lube on your cases, use less lube. I lay my cases in an old cake pan, a single pass with spray, shake and dry. Once you get some lube built up in the sizing die, thats all you need.
I dont lube rifle cases with OneShot, I use lanolin, and they get tumbled post sizing and trimming.
The home made lube works great, but IMHO needs to be tumbled off. Not a big deal, and caused no ill effects that I could see. I've switched back to coated and didn't like that the tumbling started to wear the coating, so I've switched back to one shot. In my experience one shot doesn't need to be tumbled off. If leaves a little discoloration, but they aren't sticky.
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You can also brace against the press with your left hand behind the frame to be sure you get the full seating depth....push & pull with the hands against each other.
Snug shell plate is important as mentioned above.
That's the way I do it, and (knocks on wood) I've never had a problem using CCI primers in either my CZ or Glock. You should be able to feel the primer bottom out when it seats.
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I shoot 40, and the Tripp cobra 10 mm 10 round mags with Tripp Basepads fit fine. I bought mine as "competition ready" from Dawson meaning they ground them a bit so they fit the box. I still need to double check in a box, but just measuring looks like they will fit easily.
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Yes, they are exceptional quality. I use TG with them, and the smoke isn't a big deal at all, very little.Anyone tried SNS casting 125 gr lrn coated 9mm.
Agreed, I've used a lot of them over TiteGroup for production. No complaints.
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Yes there is smoke. I rarely notice it unless the sun/wind conditions are very unfavorable (ie sun in eyes, very light breeze in your face). It's visible in match video though.
40 S&W limited major, bayou 180 over TiteGroup
For me the price savings more than makes up for any PITA of using coated. YMMV.
9mm Major Silhouette & 124 gr MG CMJ
in 9mm/38 Caliber
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Thanks.
Temps are moderate, the results I posted were done with temps in the mid 60s F.