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Vacation bid is weeks away. Any word yet Chuck? Also is there anything being done to end this yearly cluster ()&$ of nationals dates and start posting them 1 to 2 years out.
Thanks for being your area director.
Keith
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One of the other problems LEO's have is these "tactical" instructors that teach classes to them say IPSC is bad and will get you killed. This instructors do their student a great dis-service. I have been to 3 classes taught by a "Chuck Taylor Combat Master Instructor". Every class he bashes IPSC and me. Also every class he challenges me to a shoot off......needless to say he loses. Many LE trainers do very little to expand their experience and knowledge base outside of of the LE classes. What ticks me off is when you ask these same instructors that bash IPSC if they have ever shot it.....the answer is always no, or only once. If they say once, they got embarassed because they got smoked at the match.
If shooting IPSC was so bad, then why do several GM's make big money teaching top level operators for the military and local swat teams. In fact I just got back from teaching our local swat team accurate speed shooting. A skill all IPSC shooters have at least at some lever but very few LE instructors will teach. There are some really good agencies that allow there instructors to teach these techniques but must just want the instructors to teach the qual so they can show on paper they did their job. Sad but true. One of our recent chiefs had the attitude it was cheaper to pay out the settlement than it was for training. If it only about the bottom line, he might have been right. But it is also about the officers and the citizens and no price tag can be put on the lack of training that ends in a bad shoot.
Invite the LEO's out to train/shoot. If you have the chance give them a IPSC intro training so they know what to expect. I did this and it helped get a few guys to start shooting it more. The range master has a bit of an ego so he won't shoot a match but he did start using some of our course design in training.
Keith
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I am a LEO. I was shooting IPSC years before I was a cop so for me it was my hobby before entering the job. In the last few years I have started having kids so that limits my time on the range. Having kids changes your priorities. I work swing and that limits my work week family time. I have 5-6 days off a month with the wife and family, so the days of shooting 4 matches a month and 2 practice days a week are over.
As for most LEO's.....as it has been stated, it is just a tool to them. Is that a good attitude, no. I fought with this for years while I was a firearms instructor. Most officers now days are not ex-military and are not even exposed to hunting or shooting before becoming a cop. They are not into guns. Most departments do not value training. My department used to give each officer about 40 hours of firearms training a year. Not quals, training. Ranging from IPSC style courses of fire, basic swat for all patrol, tactics and shooting. Bring in a new chief about 4 years ago....and now we have about 5hours of training including quals. If you carry a rifle, you get 8 hours of department training a year. With departments placing no emphasis on shooting and training many officers just do think about it much.
IPSC matchs are also not always the most recieving of LEO's. I have personally experienced this when I shoot outside of my home club. You can hear the whispers, "he's a cop, better keep on that guy, cops are not very safe out here, bet he shoots like crap, I see how much they shoot, and most shoot terrible" (Electric earmuff are not always great) Only when they find out I'm a GM do they stop running their mouths. Then if you have the "questions guys" in your squad, you know the guy that walks up every few minutes and asks ....."Can I shoot someone if...............". This happens and it is annoying. Or they walk up and the conversation starts with, "I read in handgunner", or "So and so says......this tactic is best".
If your LEO's show up just be glad they are there. Match directors, please try to squad them with production shooters as most of them get a bit taken back by the race guns and gear. This will quickly pass after a few matches when they learn more about the game. Remember a LEO might not be there to win, they might be there to use the match as training. So they will shoot the stages differently. They might do retention reloads or shoot using cover. GREAT for them. encourge them and educate the others that do not understand what they are doing. If you know a LEO encourage them to shoot there duty gear so it costs them a lot less. Unfortunately duty gear is only allowed in level 1 matches, I wish this would change to encourge LEO's to shoot what they carry. I was considering shooting my duty gun and gear starting in 09 but since I can't use it in big matches, I am not sure I will make the switch.
Bottom line....Law enforcement is a great just a job, but it is still just a job. My life doesn't revolve around it nor should it. I need down time and time to explore other hobbies on my own and with the family. Just happens I also enjoy shooting, but I also stealhead and disc golf. Yep a well rounded geek.
Keith
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I did a search and was unable to find a good answer to my question so here we go.
I am considering shooting my duty gear for competition. I am a GM in open, and Master in limited and limited 10. I am shooting less and think it would be better to shoot the same gear all the time. I know the holster will be legal but I am not sure about mag pouches. I usually use open top mag pouches by blade tech. They are positioned just in front of the point of my hip. Do LEO's have to comply with the position rule if shooting with duty belts. I don't know any officers that carry their mags behind the point of the hip on a duty belt.
I don't know if it helps but I would actually be wearing my exact duty belt and gear with all the extra crap on the belt.
Thanks for your help.
Keith
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Mich,
You will not be disappointed with JPL. I Have been shooting one of his 9major guns for over a year now.....flawless. Now we just have to do something about that "UW" thing attached to your name.
Go Cougs
Keith Tyler
PS see ya at Area 1
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EGW would get my vote. They worked on 2 of mine years ago and did a great job. Way back with the Witness frames were popular, EGW was doing work on most of the big names guns. Hope this helps
Ktyler
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I am a LEO and a GM. I have been trained and have used both sighted and unsighted techniques. In the real world I am accounable for every round that leaves my barrel and in IPSC I am rewarded for calling my shots, I generally train using my sights.
While using simunition (fancy paintball) in training at work, I have tested and know which technique is best for me....I use my sights, its not any slower if you train that way. Having said that, you need to know how to shoot without the sights also, but only after you learn how to use them. After a couple KK worth of draws your will have an index ingrained.
Ktyler
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I am a GM with a full time non shooting job and a family. I also enjoy other hobbies so I don't deticate my whole life to shooting. This is what worked for me to help me get better and not cause me a divorce.
When it is the shooting season, I drying firing about 20-30 minutes a day.
100 deliberate trigger presses
100 reloads of some type
100 draws of some type
100-150 transistion
some type of combined skill drills
When Steve Anderson's book came out I picked it up and added some of his drills
The dryfire sessions were no longer that I could give 100 percent too. If my mind started to wander, I would take a break or hang it up for the day
When I was making a push to see how good I could get, I was doing live fire practice (not matches) about 1 day a week shooting about 300-400 rounds. I would keep this up for about 7 months then need a break . But the dry fire never stopped.
My live fire practice looked much like what Saul Kirch does. Steve Anderson's book is a good training tool but do not get worried about blazing speed in dry fire. I it more important to get an honest sight picture with a good trigger press.
Ktyler
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I have had great luck with TG. Chrono at in Barry 100% humid, 100+ degrees 168.5 pf. Then chrono at Bend Oregon at 32 degrees, 168.9 pf. I use TG in my 40 and 45.
Ktyler
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Para's mag tube bodies are shaped different than S_I mags which allows them more space a the top. The S_I mags have a longer and gratual taper as opposed to the para mags that have a steep angle at he feed lips.
Ktyler
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Shooting less. With ammo component prices going up by about 20% this year and it will be taking another 10-15% jump in Jan of 2008, I have no choice but to shoot less. If the wife and I want to shoot a match or practice, I have to figure in : gas, ammo, baby sitter, match fees....all the sudden I am at $100+ for a day of shooting.
I have gone from about 1200 rounds a month of practice to maybe 400. I went from shooting 2-3 local matches a month to shooting 1. I used to shoot 6+ big matches a year but now I am down to 2-3. Figures, I make GM and now I don't have the time or the money to maintain the skills.
From talking to people in the industry, they all say its not going to get any better. Kind of reminds me of how gun control came about in Africa, they went after the ammo availability not the guns.
Ktyler
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Gee I think I remember hearing "Be sure of you target and what is beyond it" or maybe it was put like, "be sure of your backstop/impact area". Being a LEO story's like this just anger me to no end. Not only was a person very ilresponsible but they were someone who really should have known better. Good Lord its not like he was in a gun fight he was shooting at an animal that was contained. Maybe the 12 gage with some #8 shot might have been a better choice if he really had to shot it.
My prayers are with the victims family
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Rifle Class Sept. 22-23 Bend,
Oregon COSSA range Cost $300 limited to 8 students
Class will focus on fundamentals of marksmanship and how they apply to different shooting posititons used in practical rifle. It will be all about shooting accurately from the mechanical offset of CQB distance to 200+ yards.
Email to reserve a spot. First junior to contact me, -$50 off your tution.
5 slots left as of 7/18
As always, if you heard about this class from this web site, please let me know so I can send in a donation to BE.
Keith Tyler
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I understand I can shoot my duty gear in IDPA. On my duty belt I carry open top magazine pouches that I believe comply with the rules by design but they are mounted on the front left quarter of my body. They are positioned in the same spot you would see an IPSC shooter places the pouches. Is this legal??
Thanks for the help
Ktyler
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Yep, there is something wrong in my posting. I should not be typing in a hurry and rushed. Lol
When moving left to right I place the left foot in the box to brake. In my experience when placing the right foot in first while moving from left to right usually results in the foot sliding out from under me.
Sorry about the confusion if there was any. Please forgive me, I was publick educaket and I wok 4 da govrment
ktyler
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I teach if you are moving left to right, you plant the left foot in the box and use it as the brake, absorbing the force like a shock absorber. As you bend you knee to bleed off the speed/force stay at the same elevation when you start shooting. Don't wait to stand up to start shooting, it just waistes time. Having said that, you must also take the ground surface into consideration. This technique does require some leg and knee strengh to do aggressively.
I was told by a very high level shooter at a class he was teaching at hat I was wrong in using this technique. I explained the reason I use it is becasue it works on every surface well. I further told him because I shoot on grave a lot it really helps. I showed him that if I move from left to right and plant the right foot to bleed off the speed it will slide out. I was still told I was wrong, I thanked him for showing me his way of entering a box.
The next day I watched this shooter run from right to left at the Area match and as he planed his right foot in the box/shooting area it kept on sliding and it cost him about 1.5 secords. Moral of the story....do what works for the surface you are on. Also if you can practice one way that works for most situations you can limit the skills you need to work on. If you can break your skill sets down to easily repeatable skills that can be done on demand, you are way ahead in the game.
Learn both and use the right technique for the situation
Ktyler
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I carry and own serveral single stackes 45's and I am getting interested in IDPA. I have been shooting IPSC awhile and wanted to try something new. The only reason I have not shot it earlier was none of my guns are legal. They all have bull barrels and for good reasons. After breaking a bushing in my duty gun at qualifications, I decided the bushing was a weak link I didn't want to risk my life or my partners life on. Most of the tactical guns out there are now bull barrels.
Is there going to be a rule change allowing bull barrels for IDPA?
Ktyler
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I like the job the Front Sight crew did on the canidates question and answer. It showed were the canidates priorities are and what direction they would lead the organization.
It will make voting much easier. My wife even read through it and said its pretty easy for her. I hope others read through it becasue there are some big differences between a few of them. More poitically correct (headless targets and less life like props) or not more politically correct (you know, our roots), mutli-gun format (rocks) or 3 gun format.
Again, thanks Front Sight for getting the information out.
Ktyler
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I just put an Ace Socom on my JP......I love it. It is stout and I like the cheek weld I get with it.
Keith
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Hello fellow gun junkies....
I have been using the Leupold CQT for the past 2 years and I am not sold on it. While I was looking at scopes online I came across this one and was wondering the the forum member might have to say....(I know I left that way too open).
Weight (oz): 17
German 3P#4
Length (in): 11.3
Eye Relief (in): 4 - 3.5
Field of View @ 100yds (ft): 109 - 32
Exit Pupil (mm): 22 - 6
MOA: 1/2
Lens Coating: Fully Multi-Coated
Warranty: Forever
$517 with illuminated
Thanks,
Ktyler
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When you "try" to speed up and go fast you tend to get tense and tighten your grip on the pistol. You can not move you trigger finger fast unless you relax you strong hand to allow the trigger finger to work independant of the rest of hand.
When you are trying to shoot really fast spilts you need to concentrate on keeping your good shooting platform solid and your grip pressure 60%/40% if not 70/30. The support hands grips more than the trigger hand.
Having said this.....Only shoot as fast as you can get accurate called hits. Very few shooters do hammers (1 sight picture=2 trigger presses) Follow the sights and they will tell you how fast to shoot.
I hope this helps, if you need any more info, just ask.
Ktyler
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Funny this topic is on here today. I put a Dawson Ice mag well on my open gun Friday and shot it in a match today....when I got home, the STI mag well went back on. The Dawson is a great product but it messed up my grip a ton. I really had a hard time driving the gun. I have also used EGW mag wells in the past. Personally I will be sticking with the STI SS magwell.
Ktyler
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From what your pic shows it looks pretty good. Yes the left thumb should just lay there pointing towards the targets. It appears you are holding a lot of tension in your right thumb. I would work on relaxing it. Some things to remember about your grip
At least 60% of the grip pressure/tension comes from the support/weak hand. Also the suport hands only applies pressure from side to side.
No more than 40% of the grip pressure comes from your strong/shooting hand. This hand must be more relaxed to allow the trigger finger to work independant of the rest of the hand. This hand also only applies pressure front to back. Resist the erge to grip with the tips of your fingers and twist the grip in your hand causing rounds to go low left. When applying pressure on the trigger think "Press" not "squeeze". If you think squeeze you natural reaction is to apply pressure with the whole hand. You only want to apply pressure with you trigger finger. Telling yourself to press your trigger finger is an individual action of one finger not the whole hand.
Glad to see you joined the shooting sports,
Ktyler
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The word "Double Taps" is a thorn in my butt for teaching LE and competition shooting. In all my classes I explain it like this:
Hammers= 1 sight picture with 2 trigger presses -rarely used because you must bring the gun to rest and set up the proper sight picture before pressing the trigger 2 times. Usually used at 1-5 yards with flash sight picture at best.
Controlled pairs= 2 appropriate sight pictures (See what you need to make the shot desired) with 2 trigger presses-the preferred method of putting 2 rounds on a target quickly. The outcome is much more predictable. You are taking 2 aimed shots which gives you a better chance of having a continous sight picture through the arch of recoil allowing you to call your shots. (Good Lord there is a lot going on when you got to presses the trigger more than once and hit something)
Diliberate pairs-2 perfect sight pictures (level and equal, or dot at rest) 2 perfect trigger presses. Used for tights or distance shots.
Just watch the good shooters that are smooth. They rarely have splits faster than .18 but the transitions are rarely slower than .20. Smooth is faster and more accurate which gives you the hit factors you want.
Hope this helps
Keith Tyler
TFI
From talking to people in the industry, they all say its not going to get any better.
DAA Fixed Jet Wings-any good
in Open Pistols
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I have been seeing a lot of table top starts lately and I have been searching for a possible solution to a small problem. I do not have a slide rack and don't really want one. I was looking at the aero wing that Graffle markets when I came across this DAA jet wing. There are 2 models, a fixed and a folding model. The folding models looks cool but how reliable is it over the long run. If anyone has experience with these please let me know the pros' and cons. I am curious how bulky they are and does the shooter run the risk of banging the wings on something and knocking the pistol out of a holster or our of your hands while shooting a stage.
Thanks for your assistance and I looking forward to seeing some responses.
Keith