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To find a way to accomplish a similar goal I modified the IDPA Classifier stages as a form of practice. I wanted to incorporate various live fire drills that would let me practice a variety of techniques, but also not require me to bring a bucket full of ammo to the range. At the range I practice at I have two Bianchi style plate racks to do this, but the drills can be modified using just one plate rack. Forgive the repetition if something similar has been posted before, but either way please let me know what you think.
String 1 - Draw and shoot 3 plates shooting left to right - 15 yards.
String 2 - Draw and shoot 3 plates shooting right to left - 15 yards.
String 3 - Draw and shoot 3 plates shooting left to right - 15 yards.
String 4 - Draw and shoot 6 plates shooting right to left - 15 yards.
String 5 - Draw and transfer gun to weak hand and shoot 3 plates - 10 yards.
String 6 - Start facing up range. Turn and draw and shoot 3 plates, perform a reload, and shoot 3 more plates - 15 yards.
String 7 - Draw strong hand only and shoot 6 plates - 10 yards.
String 8 - Draw and while walking forward shoot 3 plates - Start at 10 yards moving to 7 yards.
String 9 - Draw and while walking backward shoot 3 plates - Start at 7 yards and move to 10 yards.
String 10 - Start facing up range. Turn and draw and shoot 6 plates, perform a reload, and shoot 6 plates - 15 yards.
String 11 - Draw strong hand only and shoot 3 plates - 15 yards.
String 12 - Using two separate boxes spaced 5 yards apart. Draw and shoot 3 plates, move from right to left to other box, and shoot 3 plates - 20 yards.
String 13 - Using two separate boxes spaced 5 yards apart. Draw and shoot 3 plates, move opposite direction from previous drill to other box, and shoot 3 plates, then move forward to low barricade and shoot 3 plates. 20 yards from boxes and 15 yards from low barricade.
String 14 - Draw shoot 3 plates standing, go to kneeling position, shoot 3 plates - 20 yards.
I will very the distances based on what I want to learn or how I want to challenge myself for the day. Total round count is 72 rounds.
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Anybody use the Vibram Five Finger shoes. I have been looking at the Spyridon LS, they look extremely light, but didn't know what they would be like for standing around at the range all day.
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Sorry for the delay. He does have the 5.25, however, after asking him he has the XD not the XDM. If optics planet doesn't have the holster your looking for you can also contact Copquest, a lot of guys get there stuff through them also. Hope this helps and happy hunting.
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A friend at work has an XDM in 45 and uses the 6280 holster. When I had trouble finding a 6280 for my 34, that also holstered the gun with the light, I called Safariland direct and checked for vendors that had it in stock. My friend, and myself, ended up ordering our holsters through Optics Planet.
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New sights, everything else is stock.
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For a holster you should also look at Ready Tactical. Its also a good one for both games.
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I noticed that 147 Bayou's have the flat tip. Does that make that much of a difference versus an all round nose bullet for feeding?
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WSF+ a 147 makes a good load
That helps but leads me to another question. I think Bayou sells 147 gr. also. Which is the better heavier bullet 147 gr or the 160 gr.? And, if the heavier bullet reduces recoil why aren't more guys shooting 40 caliber, with heavier bullets? Not that I plan on shooting a 40, I'm just curious.
I have only test fired 160s over a crono and they are stupid soft, but I hear that they're not really accurate at or near 125pf; which is also why the principle of "heavy bullet, sold recoil" has its limit, a big bullet can only go so slow and still be accurate. Too slow and bullets start tumbling. So you can have a soft .40 Minor load with 180s, but it may not group worth a damn until you push it up to 145-150pf. 147 seems to be the most popular heavy bullet for 9 Minor.
After the help and education I'll run with the 147 gr. bullets. Makes sense to me. I appreciate all the info. I plan on ordering some this week.
I think most do shoot heavy bullets in .40, 180-200, for major anyhow. In minor, that heavy of a bullet will feel pretty sluggish in the slide velocity. How you doin', Ed?
What's happening Bob!
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Heavier bullet will make the recoil feel less and drop the steel better.
That helps but leads me to another question. I think Bayou sells 147 gr. also. Which is the better heavier bullet 147 gr or the 160 gr.? And, if the heavier bullet reduces recoil why aren't more guys shooting 40 caliber, with heavier bullets? Not that I plan on shooting a 40, I'm just curious.
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Getting ready to shoot production division with Glock 34 using Bayou Bullets. Before I order and spend the money, what weight are guys using? I'm looking at 124 gr. vs. the 160 gr. bullets in 9mm, using Super Field powder. I have two concerns. One, which weight is better for reducing recoil. And second, which weight is better for putting down steel in USPSA. I thought most guys were using the lighter bullet, but just wanted to make sure.
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That......is absolutely awesome!
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You guys are much cheaper then a doctors visit. I'll make sure to stop having long romantic hugs with my dog.
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That's cool thanks for the info. On a side note I tried getting rid of poison ivy by scrubbing it with bleach. It helped a little, and wait for it, it burned like hell!
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Does anybody know if dogs can get poison ivy, and if that can transfer to people?
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Minor is one reason I just can't get comfortable and enthused about Production.
Got to say though in the little bit of practice with the new 8 shooter, seems like the darn thing runs all day!
I keep dumping the cylinder with 1 or even 2 rounds still in it.
The same thing happens to me. You know what helps.....I think of the rounds as beer, and at least for me, it fixes the problem.
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Action Job done and running 5 1/2 lbs with the transfer bar and NO lock, chamfered cylinder, trimmed the hammer but left it intact for now. Actually like the Factory Rear Sight it's taller than the Millet/Weigands and only .003 tighter than the Millet. Swapped in a FO Serrated .250" FS. Darn thing seems to be a tack driver.
I'm actually working up loads. Have some Ramshot Competition and WST but haven't tried them yet.
Using .38 Short Starline Brass, F100 Primers here's what I have so far.
Definitely needs 357 or 358 bullets. Tried some 147 .356 Berry RN and they went all over. Right now it's looking like 160 Bayou RN with 3.0 Titegroup at 1.145 OAL with a .370 Roll Crimp runs at 850 f/s 136PF and is a tack driver. Also using 158 Berry RN with 3.2 Titegroup at 1.145 OAL and a .368 Roll Crimp for 860 f/s 136PF, but doesn't seem as accurate. Have 50 loaded for some serious accuracy work after the A3. Does seem to like the Roll Crimp though with Berry and even with the Bayou. The only thing with the Bayou's is it's got a very small flat on the nose. But it doesn't seem to hurt the reloads.
Since it's maiden match will be an NRA Action Pistol Match, plan on using a 148 Berry DEWC in .357 Mag Starline cases and 4.3 Clays at 900 f/s, a bit hot but it's what I had loaded for a M28. It seems to love the combo.
Now if Dave Hearth just doesn't get too wild on his vacation, I'll have 60 New Hearthco Clips about mid August!
Is it better to use Titegroup or Clays for short colt? I have been loading 160 Bayou's with 3.0 of Clays, 1.200 overall. I'm happy with them, getting a little over 130 power factor. But I still worry about over pressure problems.
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If you score them minor the average of the top 7 drops to 91.78. That ~3% drop in points. That would bump several of them down a place.
Just to look at the other side of the coin, I see your point with the drop in points. But that only takes into account the drop in points going to minor, how would that be effected or changed with having to do less reloads compared to the 6 shots?
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I borrowed a 34 from a friend as I also have been wanting to get either the 17 or the 34. After playing with both for a bit, I plan on getting the 17. I couldn't tell a difference in terms of performance as it relates to recoil and accuracy. What sold the 17 for me was reloading the gun. The 34 felt a little slower to move the nose of the gun around to change mags. The 17 also tended to point more natural for me.
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At this point,, if I was just wishing, my ideal solution would be for USPSA to acquire ICORE like they did Steel Challenge. Then spin it off into a separate game called USPSARevolve, and have 4 divisions
Classic: 6 shot no moonclips
Limited 6: 6 shot clips
Limited 8: 8 shot clips
Open : comps, optics, whatever.
If we're just wishin'....
DanO
Please No! Oh please NO! Leave ICORE alone. It is perfect just the way it is. USPSA just needs a little tweak in revolver division and they will see the division grow. Might loose 30-40% of the 625 guy to bottom feeder divisions out of protest, but I believe they will pick up 60% more 8 minor competitors.
Note: I say competitors cause shooting one of those automatic bottom feeders is what participants do. lol
Call me slow, or even accuse me of being a guy whose walking in circles and can't figure out how to stop, but where exactly do you get the numbers of a 60% increase with 8 minor competitors. I'm not saying I can prove you wrong, but where I live in Ohio we don't even have an ICORE club, and the closest one I know of is in Indiana which is a two and a half hour drive for me.
I hope that your right with this, because the idea of loosing 30 to 40% of the current revo guys sounds down right depressing....I'd have to go to Arbys and hope I'd find them at a roast beef sale.
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Despite the issue of whether its a reshoot or not, I have to admit that every match I have been to where a stage has a texas star, there always seems to be a back up of some sort on that stage. It seems to take two or three guys to put all the plates back on, if you want it done in a timely manner. I know you won't get the cool spinning effect, but you could make a stage equally challenging and interesting, in my opinion, if you just move poppers or fall over plates farther back, or put them in positions where they are harder shoot.
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Dogged, Dogged, Dogged, even I know that 8 7oz cans is less than 6 12oz cans, 56 to 72. You get an extra pint.! I too am tiring of the discussion and awaiting the ruling. I will shoot whatever and whereever I can. But now at least we have a reason to drink
Your math does look correct. As long as you remember that quality should be put before quantity....at least some of the time.
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8 shot minor would be scored as minor and inaccuracy would be rewarded with fewer points.
6 shot would have the option of shooting major and being scored as such with less penalty for inaccuracy.
The balance of accuracy, power, and speed would still be in play.
A "similar to" situation exists for single stack right now and that seems to work.
It is all open for discussion, and that is good. I am certainly not trying to stop that.
I certainly haven't taken anything said as being negative, and I, in retrospect, hope I didn't come across as negative. I was very vocal on this topic in months past, but have put myself in a watch observe mode. Yes, I like revo the way it is. Yes, if we had to make a change, I have argued for six shot minor for everyone. However, having said that, things are what they are, and what ever the board decides, I in the end want what everyone wants, to shoot revolvers and have more people shoot them with us.
Knowing that this could be a fundamental permanent change I just want to play "devils advocate" and make sure all options are covered to provide the best interest for everyone. At this point, I'm ready for a decision to be made, what ever that might be.
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I support 8 minor / 6 major. I'd also like an across the board 125PF for revolver. Everybody gets 125 PF but 8 shooters are scored minor, six shooters are scored major. Getting beat up with major loads in a revolver to make holes in paper makes no sense to me. It's considerabley more abuse than major in a semi-auto.
Wouldn't that pretty much eliminate the "V" in DVC?
Doesn't eight shot minor take away from the "V" in DVC also? If we're willing to let the 8 shot minor into the division, and there are fears that it would dominate the division over 6 shots, doesn't Tom E's idea go a little further with making them both competitive with each other. If the argument is to grow the division and make it fun for everyone, doesn't that idea help with that. It seems to me you could make 8 shot minor and 6 shot major competitive with each other, grow the division by allowing other styles of revolvers in, and make it appealing by raising the fun factor......I think the idea has promise.
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I never hit a plate with full dia.hit and it not fall,,,especially in the center of the plate..Sometime when hit at the bottom they won't fall.
What were you shooting,major minor????
It was major, 45 ACP 175 power factor.
Resizing requires extreme force
in 9mm/38 Caliber
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I have had the same problem with having to force the brass into my undersized die. I have been using Hornady under sized dies for some time now in both 45 and 9mm. I have broken two "C" style reloaders so I upgraded to one one of the "D" shaped loaders, all of them Lees. I was resizing 9mm this morning on the newer Lee loader and the arm part of it cracked. Not sure if I'm screwing this up or if its just the loaders. All the brass I have been resizing in both the 45 and the 9mm have been shot through Glocks with the unsupported chamber issues. To say the least I'm pretty frustrated.