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Rob,
I mentioned your Online Squadding doo-dad to the IPSC President while we were enjoying a Cuba Libre or three last week in Bali, and he was very interested.
If you're willing to share your handiwork, the IPSC President will lavish you with the same remuneration that I receive each year, namely a bear hug and a sloppy kiss on the cheek. If you refuse, you'll get two sloppy kisses on the cheek (you have been warned).
What say you?
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I'm not going to mention the bikini clad lovelies that kept walking past .....
Don't tell anybody, but they were arranged by me. Whenever I was cornered with a tough rules question, I'd signal the girls, and they'd strut their stuff to distract the guys grilling us.
BWA-HA-HA!
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In a SA pistol, the hammer is generally resting on the firing pin when the hammer is down. An impat o the hammer spur could cause the round to fire.
In that case, I think Luca's suggestion is the correct way forward:
10.5.11.1 A single action self-loading pistol with a live round in the chamber and the safety not applied.
Can anybody see a problem with the above proposal? However, in order to avoid the possibility that a WSB might require a "Condition 2" start, we should probably dot the i's and cross the t's with:
New 8.2.6 A course of fire must never require a competitor to prepare a single action self-loading pistol with a round in the chamber and the safety not applied.
Can anybody see a problem with the second proposal?
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No Sir.
See Point 20 of Appendix D4 in the IPSC Rulebook. The only aftermarket items you can use are magazines, sights & grips.
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it wasn't too long ago that we all thought the GLOCK was ugly!
Speak for yourself ........ the Glock has always been beautiful.
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Ok next time I show up for the equipment dance I'll do it like this... remember I shoot standard, and not revolver standard..
You'll do much better if you also have a gun ......
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Hi folks,
I split these posts off from the "First match under the Green Book" thread, because they deal with an entirely separate issue.
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At the EC the ROs actually looked at our dance in front of them and if you had no gun in the holster you had to get dressed up, <snip>
Sounds to me that the officials at the EC2004 did their job splendidly.
Dalmas talking to himself -"be careful, the toes you step on today might be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow"..
I love your comment but, no, we won't delete this topic, because we love to see you squirm
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Um guys,
That's not the correct thread - this is the correct one, and it was started by Luca!!
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Hi folks,
Just as a follow up, although only 10 people responded about the workshop, about 40 people (from Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Australia, Germany, South Africa, Netherlands, Philippines, USA etc.) showed up, and it turned out to be an excellent discussion and exchange of ideas.
In fact, a couple of rule oversights were brought to my attention, and the most prominent was Rule 10.5.9 which doesn't provide an exemption for guys in Production Division who must manually decock a gun such as the CZ75. This will be fixed ASAP.
The other thing is that I asked our Indonesian friends to give me a small room supplied with coffee and tea for the workshop, but they refused, and they insisted on providing a free three course lunch for everybody! I thought the Filipinos were excellent hosts, but the Indonesians are unbeatable.
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.. I feel that the equipment check at major matches is more a farse than serious business.
That's quite a damning statement.
Anyway, the image you posted is not distinct enough for me to comment on whether or not the front mag pouch complies with the diagram shown in Appendix F3. However if the subject competitor passed muster for 28 equipment checks, I must presume that 28 Range Officers were satisfied that he was in compliance.
In any case, if you had an objection, why didn't you file a protest with the Range Master during the match?
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And when you make an oversite or error, have the guts to fix it.
Um, excuse me, but are you new here? If you care to peruse the IPSC Rules Forum, I think you'll find there have been are numerous cases over the past 2 or so years where I willingly agree that a rule can be improved, and I also believe I'm fairly responsive in offering corrective solutions and bringing them to fruition.
Of course this doesn't mean that I agree with all requests for change, but I assure you that I, for one, have plenty of guts (and a fair amount of belly too).
Motto: No guts, no glory.
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Skywalker's interpretation of the current rule is correct, and I apologise for my partial brain fade, because the little voices in my head whispered the 2002 edition rulebook version to me, which has "and, and, and" (i.e. three conditions), whereas the 2004 edition rulebook has "or, and" (i.e. two conditions).
Anyway, in an effort to address Jeff's concerns but without making a reshoot mandatory (as this opens another can of worms), I intend to bring this matter to the attention of my Rules Committee colleagues in Bali next week. I've also temporarily pinned this thread to the top of this forum, so that it doesn't get buried.
And Jeff, you're in charge of keeping me to my word - if I don't reply by the middle of December latest, you're authorised to take away my cookies.
As a follow-up to the promise I made above, I'd like to report that the IPSC Rules Committee decided not to adopt my draft Rule 9.1.4.1., however they agreed to my second suggestion, which was to instead adopt the USPSA Version of Rule 9.1.4.
On that note, I'll unpin this topic, but I'll close it too because, well, I'd get really embarassed if you guys start heaping tons of praise and unrelenting love on me - I'm just not used to it ......
PS: And Jeff, you keep your grubby mitts off my damned cookies, ya hear?
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Vince, as eerw pointed out, the mag gauge manufactured by EGW (see here) is made for USPSA tolerances, thus it's 141.25 on one side and 171.25 on the other:<snip>
Where does the USPSA Rulebook allow for a +1.5mm tolerance?
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It says "the USPSA version of the rulebook" ...which is the book I have in my hands (I don't have an IPSC rule book at all).
Sure, but the "USPSA Version of the rulebook" are only those rules which are unique to the USPSA. How can you say, for argument's sake, that Rule 1.1.1 is a "USPSA Version" when it's word-for-word identical to IPSC wording? Divisions aside, the USPSA Rulebook is less than 5% different to the IPSC Rulebook.
I suspect USPSA Rule 11.8.3 is not worded correctly, just like the wording of Point 2 of USPSA Appendix A1, which Mike has already agreed is incorrect (i.e. you don't have to be a member of the USPSA to shoot a Level II or III match in the USA if you actually live in, say, Hong Kong).
Anyway, let me see what Mike has to say about the subject at hand.
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Vince, Your proposed change is good, but take care in altering the rule. A SA gun with a round in the chamber and the Hammer Down would be made legal under your new wording! This is an unsafe condition.
I'm not sure I agree that it's unsafe. Consider a competitor in Production Division using a CZ75 (without a decocker), who must lower his hammer manually, in which case his hammer is down on a loaded chamber.
I don't know enough about "1911 genre" pistols but, if we're going to declare that they're unsafe in that condition, then we'll effectively be banning CZ75 and similar pistols from Production Division, and that's something we definitely don't want to do.
Comments, anyone?
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Reading US 11.8.3, it appears that the USPSA website is the place to go for interpretations of the USPSA rule book.
I'd say it's the place to go for interpretations of USPSA rules (i.e. those which are unique to the USPSA) but, for the avoidance of doubt, I'll send a message to Mike Voigt asking him to clarify, and I will report back ASAP (provided Mike's recovered from Bali - I know that I'm still in a holiday mood!!).
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Well OK:) I'm glad I live in the US.
OK, so you don't have to worry about a 5lb trigger pull, but we have the best Chinese food in the world.
Nyah, nyah!
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Flex,
By the same token, Rule 11.8.1 survives unchanged in the USPSA Rulebook, which is why I believe that the US version of Rule 11.8.3 limits USPSA BOD interpretations to rules which are unique to the USPSA, and that would make a lot of sense.
Obviously we don't want two different bodies interpreting the same rule and, as I said earlier, there are two USPSA representatives on the IPSC Rules Committee, and we only publish rule interpretations when the consensus is unanimous.
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Would someone please confirm that the gauge above measures 140mm on one side and 170mm on the other side?
Thanks in advance.
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Also, what would the call be if we had a start: Gun in holster with magazine inserted, but no round in chamber, hammer down on an empty chamber? Would we just send all the SA shooters home?
Under current rules, yes, but why would you knowingly and intentionally require a gun ready position that would create such a situation? And did you not see or read my post directly above yours, where I proposed the following corrective change?:
10.5.11.1 A single action self-loading pistol with the hammer cocked and the safety not applied.
Glen identified the anomaly, I immediately acknowledged it, and I've proposed a corrective solution. Is there anything else I need to be doing, apart from possibly falling on my sword?
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XD...those guns are UGLY.
Hell, if being ugly was a disqualifying part of our criteria, there's a whole bunch of guns which wouldn't be approved by The Fab Five.
Have you seen the IMI Barak?
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In additional, for a match to be sanctioned at Level III, the C of F has to be submitted to a member of the IPSC Course Sanctioning Committee. This is chaired by Doug Lewis of Canada and I believe he tackles most, if not all, of the US HG matches himself.
A small but important correction: Doug Lewis is Chairman of the COF Approval Committee. The actual sanctioning of Level III and higher matches is the exclusive domain of the IPSC President.
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But, is the XD sold by Springfield outside the US? Do they have a big reason to care if it's not international-IPSC PD legal?
Good question, and perhaps that's why they don't send me flowers & candy!
According to my records, I've received 110 enquiries about the XD over the past 12 months, but the only non-US enquiries I received were from Canada. I also received another 10 enquiries about the HS2000, but they were mainly from Europe.
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Wow. I knew about the whips and the boots, but I didn't know they used spurs too ...... now that's gotta hurt!