[Production Revolver Ammo]

Hey Guys.

I had to add my 2cents.

I shoot a 125 Zero JHP, with 5.2 WST. It makes about 128 to 130 power factor depending on the weather.

This means it will make power factor for Action Pistol / USPSA Min / IPSC Min / ICORE.

The load will shoot less than 1 inch at 50yrds,bench rest, that does not mean I can hold that at 50yrds standing, but it will do it, no problems.

It works for the mover great, and all the other events, I just need to learn how to shoot as well as the rest of you, ( some day ).

The one big issue is that it is very tough to have only one gun for all the types of shooting, if you are ok with not always finishing in the top few, then do it, but if you want to do really well, you must have only gun for each sport.

Now thats said, I have a 686PC 6", it's real cool, I can and have shot very well with it in all the above disciplines.

But my main gun is a 681 / c /1 custom made for AP, its very heavy, but it will shoot the eyes out of a flea, I can't but try hard.

Both guns are awesome, I love shooting them, but I should have stuck to an Auto, shot one for 26 years. but I love a challenge.

I know gm iprod will have some sort of nasty come back, bring it on.

Shoot lots of X's and most of all shoot and have fun.

Russell.

[Mover scope]

I have one at home, in full working order.

If you need it bad i think i can ship it fast.

PM me if that works, or let Action Pistolero know and he can get hold of me.

JRB

AP forever.

[Anybody running a K-Frame?]

Holy crap,

Melon Head can type. Shovel coal into that old computer up there did we.

That's just too funny.

Some of us have real jobs to work at, O by they way Coal is still better than Sheep !@#$

[Anybody running a K-Frame?]

I shot a model 66 6" for my first and second year at the cup. My ammo was HP-38 and a ZERO 158 gr. lead semi-wadcutter. If you use the 158's the lead for the mover at 25 yards is about 3-4 inches in front of the target, thats the only disadvantage on the heavy bullets, but the plates will go down easy. If you use the 148's and they are hollow base make sure they are thick based bullets or you might blow off the base, this would result in 2 holes in the target up close and no hole in the target at 50 yds.

If you need any more help or have any questions just ask, metallic is what I shoot at the Cup, and I use a revlover.

Greg in VA

Greg you don't use a revolver you use a rifle with a rotating cylinder.

Russell

[World Shoot AP]

Thanks Alan.

Russell

[Canadian Gun laws]

Hello.

It can be done, the laws of this land are a bit screwy but thats what we have to live with.

I am not near my office, but i will send you the numbers you need to contact to get your firearms into the country.

Depending on the type of firearm, it should not be to difficult to do.

For me to enter the USA with firearms and ammuniton for the prepose of competition, takes about 10 hours of paperwork, and about 6 weeks waiting. The biggest problem is your US Customs, they do not know your laws and do not know my laws, sometimes it can take 2hours to cross into the USA, but it can be done.

I live just north of Toronto, in Ontario. I shoot in the USA at least 6 times a year. I even need a special permit to move my firearms to the Point of exit from my country.

You may not carry a firearm on your person in this country, unless you are a Police officer, on duty. This is just the way it is. But i still get to shoot, and shoot a lot. Mags may not hold more than 10 rounds, they must be pinned to not allow any more. This is for Hand Guns, Rifles and shot guns may not hold more than 5 rounds. A total nightmare, but we manage.

I will try to get you the info in the next few days.

Be Safe, shot straight and have fun.

Russell

Canadian

[Need a 38 load]

Hi Guys

I use 5.1 of WST in 38spl brass with a Zero 125 hollow point, or a 125 XTP hollow point.

Power factor is 128, makes it for Action Pistol and IPSC. ( minor power factor )

The 2 guns are a 681-c and a 686 preformance centre both with 6" barrels.

The load is flat shooting and at 50yrds the rounds go through the same hole if im lucky.

Forgot to add, Federal Small Pistol Primers, my Revolvers will not set off the others, to hard.

Hope this helps.

Russell

[Marketing NRA AP]

Hello guys

I just have to add my 2 cents.

I have spent the last 28 years shooting IPSC in Canada, Kent got me into the ART of AP shooting in 1996.

I had at the time thought the sport of AP was good, but thought IPSC was way more fun. I was wrong, the sport of IPSC has become a sport for lawyers, what used to be great fun has gone the way of he who shoots fastested and misses still can win.

The people have changed so much over the past 28 years it's just not fun for me anymore.

You guys in the sport of AP have helped me more in the past 4 years than i ever got in 28 years of IPSC.

Speed / Power and Accuracy are still the most important thing in this sport, not one alone, but all togeather. I still need to know how to handle myself and keep it togeather for the hole match. ( im trying )

Thanks to all who make this sport fun.

As to Marketing AP, it needs to be out there some how. If i can help please let me know.

Russell

Sorry for any bad spelling.

[Who's going to the Cup?]

To all of you going to the Bianchi Have a great time, and lots of fun.

Please give Kevin a little greese for his NOW swollen head. LOARD, now it will not fit in the door of the truck.

I will not be able to make it this year, but Kent will be there.

Russell

What suddenly brought this on? By the way, it is spelled LORD.

It would seem to me that someone with the nickname "Melon Head" would need the grease.

Sorrty for the bad spellinggg, i just had to say somthhing Lord Kevin

[Who's going to the Cup?]

Can we all join in???????

No Melon Head, ow crap. One less Canadian to razz up. Anyways, Team Kiwi has 4 members in the US already.

Piper and Murray are there fixing cars etc. Lofty and Joanne are in transit from LA to points east via rental last I heard. Will take them until the 6th or 7th to get there, but I did tell him to rent a better car.

We arrive 9th. Rest of mob turn up 13th onwards.

Are you guys shooting MI

[Who's going to the Cup?]

To all of you going to the Bianchi Have a great time, and lots of fun.

Please give Kevin a little greese for his NOW swollen head. LOARD, now it will not fit in the door of the truck.

I will not be able to make it this year, but Kent will be there.

Russell

[Range equipment malfunction ?]

Alright A/P guys I have a question for you.

If you are shooting the falling plates and have a plate fall on it's own during the string of fire what happens?

This happened today (and has happened before) and the shooter asks me what do you do?

Me: You get the plate.

Him: Good can I use the extra shot for a make up shot?

Me: No you get the plate but no make up shots.

Him: Well but you get 6 shots per string.

Me: Hmmmmmm ...... don't know.

So what do you guys have to say and if you can show something in the rule book it would be even better.

Thank you, Greg

Sorry about the last reply, i am new to this stuff

This happened to me at the 2010 Bianchi Cup 2 times on the plates.

From position 2 1st string, the far right plate falls before i draw, i look at the RO he does nothing, i try to finish the string. ( not done very well )

From position 3 first string, the same plate falls, i am distracted again and look at the RO, he does nothing again.

I had a squib on the last string, so i looked like a goof anyway.

I tried to get a ruling on the RANGE Equipment failer but to no avail.

I would love to know what the rule is and why they don't do anything about these problems.

Thanks

russell

[Range equipment malfunction ?]

Alright A/P guys I have a question for you.

If you are shooting the falling plates and have a plate fall on it's own during the string of fire what happens?

This happened today (and has happened before) and the shooter asks me what do you do?

Me: You get the plate.

Him: Good can I use the extra shot for a make up shot?

Me: No you get the plate but no make up shots.

Him: Well but you get 6 shots per string.

Me: Hmmmmmm ...... don't know.

So what do you guys have to say and if you can show something in the rule book it would be even better.

Thank you, Greg

[USPSA Revolver Participation]

I agree with all of you on this subject.

I am a newbe to the Revolver, shot an auto in all divisions in IPSC/USPSA. I am now shooting 1 of 2 custom Revolvers in Action Pistol ( 6 shot's ) what a hoot, and the few times i get to shoot in IPSC/USPSA I love to use the Revolver. I am also a left handed shooter, so reloads are a nightmare.

Revolvers are 6 shots and game should stay the same.

7 and 8 shots are great, but the problem always comes down to the same thing. " He who has the most money wins ".

It should not be this way, but you all know it is. The guy who has a good 6 shot that works well should not be forced to go broke just to play.

IPSC/USPSA and the rules of the 2 games promote " he who has the most money wins " no guns in all the divisions except OPEN even meet the reality of of the shelf.

Please give me a chance to put my body armor on before you start shooting at me.

I have never in my 30 years of shooting, had so much fun shooting my 2 Revolvers. And to those who shot them well it's a treat to watch.

Thanks

JRB

[Bianchi Countdown]

Hi Mark, are you going to MI before the Bianchi?

I can help you with the neck problem. You don't need it anyway. if your eyes are working and you can stand, you can shoot.

Remember Kevin MUNCHED his triger finger the day before the match in Bedford, he did good.

See you soon

Russell

Canuck

[Bianchi Countdown]

thanks MJ, love your attitude.

Doctors seem to think 2 weeks is nowhere near enough time to recover.

Slackers...

[open gun if any one is looking?]

Who made the Mag well for the firearm?

[MidwayUSA & NRA Bianchi Cup]

Ok, Ok i give.

I just had no choice, thought it might work.

I guess i was wrong.

I'll be there anyway, trying to shoot a good score.

See you in May.

Be safe

Russell

[MidwayUSA & NRA Bianchi Cup]

Sorry guy's i think i made a booboo.

Any way, i have too stick my big mouth in on this one.

Is it possible to move the match to later in the year, say late September or early October.

If this was done those of us who don't get outside until April, because of the weather, have a chance to shoot some matches.

With haveing the Bianchi in late May, it does not allow for many matches under the belt.

The Bianchi i think, should be the last match ( culmanation ) of the shooting season, as it is the largest and most prestigeous match.

Can you give me a little warning before you all want to shoot me, i need time to place on my body armor.

Be safe

Russell

[2011 major matches]

Good Day guys, and Happy New Year.

I made my first Revolver purchas June 2008, just cause it look so cool. I am 1 of those IPSC/USPSA bottom feed shooters, but now i am a convert.

Action pistol with a Revolver is unbeilevable, the 686 prefomance centre i got shoots better that i ever will. With a lot of help from a great man from VA i might just be able to shoot a 1900 in the next few years.

All that said, you guys are killing me, i had hoped to join ICORE in the next week.

I will travel far and wide to get to a match if its worth it. ( FUN is all that matters to me )

I am from Toronto, Canada.

I attend 6 Action Matches a year, as far a the Bianchi, to VA / NY / MD /

Driving is not a problem, but finding a good fun match is.

I lost all interest in IPSC / USPSA in the last few years because of the cry babies and wanna be lawers.

Please tell me were the Caswell Ranch is, and is there any ICORE matches within 1000 miles of Toronto.

Am i wasting my time trying to shoot an ICORE match in the near future?

Shooting a Revolver has brought me down a few steps, it is the most accurate firearm i have ever used. I need to learn to shoot all over again.

Did i mention that i'm a lefty.

This is my first post on this on the B.E Form.

Thanks for listing, any help is appreciated.

Thanks

Be Safe

Shoot well.

Russell

Canadian

Sorry for ther bad spelling. How does the spell check work on this?

[In-Ear Hearing Protection]

I have worked in the construction industry for 34 years, and have been shooting scince 1980. The best think you can do for your self is first to have your hearing checked by a pro.

Custom made in the ear plugs are the way to go for shooting outside.

If you shoot indoors you should have both in the ear plugs and a pair of good outer head sets on.

If you are shooting both a pistol and rifle the head sets can get in the way some times, but with that said I have been waring custom plugs for ever and they work.

The las time my hearing was checked 2 years ago it was told to me by the DOC that I still had the hearing of a 19 year old. I am 48.

The cost is not outrages for the plugs.

Does anyone have any experience with these ears and do you have any recommendations on which model or if they are even worth buying? I am aware of the ESP brand but I wasn't aware of these.

Mini-Canal Ears

or

EAR Inc.

Also, what other in-ear electronic hearing protection have you guys and gals tried. I'm looking for something that is comfortable, works, and has a good NRR rating. I did a search online and I originally thought that ESPamerica was the only one out there but I was wrong. There are a few companies that make in-ear protection and I'd love to hear some opinions from those of you who have used them or tested them............any of the in-ear hearing protection.