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    New classification system

    in USPSA/IPSC Shooting

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    that's a good point. the vast majority of classifiers are shoot 3 targets, reload, shoot 3 targets. Maybe if most classifiers were of the mini stage variety it would be more representative of match skills ... I still haven't heard any convincing arguments that make me believe our classification system shouldn't be match based against the rest of the country ...

    ^^^^

    This!

    There are some mini stages in the book. I noticed the biggest hangup is to have the props/walls exact same dimensions of the classifier.

    Old school vid of Rob, Brian and some others

    in The Gallery

    Posted

    Great vid!

    I had the VHS tape too in 90 when I started.. Chip McCormick was front of trigger guard, as well as Jerry B. An international shooter friend of mine at the time was doing that.. since then she moved under the trigger guard,

    I figured I'll copy TGO.. lol

    Thanks for the link and reminiscing!

    Drawing; Grip Fast Or Smooth?

    in Handgun Techniques

    Posted

    You are correct Flack, if you start talking Steel Challenge or the Masters then the draw time becomes far more important than it does in IPSC.

    I am not saying that draw times are unimportant in IPSC, but they rank fairly far down the list in terms of payback. As you said, there is usually only one draw per stage, and on top of that, many stages do not start with a "draw", rather gun on the table, something else in your hands, run to the first shooting position, etc. All of which negate the draw speed.

    I'll have to disagree...

    I feel it's all perspective. Isn't training/ practice the journey for overall skill? Or practicing just for a particular game?

    In your perspective, gains are found in other aspects of the game, that I agree.

    My question is, why "down play" a skill that can be learned well even though it offers less in payback in a particular game? Like saying, "eh my draw sucks, so I won't practice it, i'll work on transitions"

    Whereas the shooter can train and become proficient in EVERY aspect of fundamentals including, a fast, accurate draw, unloaded starts, hands on table, etc.

    I read somewhere, if you have the control to be good at a skill, why not be good at it?

    Yes there are times when you have to run to a position or pick up your gun, negating the draw speed. But if you are pulling 1.4 draws and your opponent is doing it in 0.9, you are a half second behind after one shot being fired.

    And the hit from their first shot on the draw is?

    If you don't get a proper grip on the gun in the holster and drill something other than a Alpha on the draw, then that penalty time should be add to your 'super fast draw time'.

    Now, that 'super fast draw time' may not look so 'super fast'.

    Just a thought....

    That's my point... train for the 0.9 or faster first shot draw with alpha. Both can be done,spot on, not necessarily one or the other.

    Happy New year!

    Drawing; Grip Fast Or Smooth?

    in Handgun Techniques

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    Speed on the draw (in most cases) is pretty worthless. The difference between mediocrity and fast is somewhere around .15 seconds. .15 seconds on a stage. Meaningless. Worth about 1 point on most stages.

    OTOH, if you can reduce the target transition time by .10 of a second, and there are 10 transitions on a stage…now we are talking a real difference!

    Indeed! Great advice, but why not speed up both?

    Indeed! But not at the sacrifice of getting the correct grip on the gun to begin the stage.

    Too many times while teaching I have had shooters tell me how fast their draw is or how fast they can shoot a split on an open target. Both things are fairly meaningless on the majority of the stages. The real work begins after stage analysis and understanding where the biggest chunks of time are spent, then coming up with a plan to reduce those numbers. I always remind them, (with very few exceptions) that you only draw the gun once on a stage.

    I wouldn't argue with that statement at all! And actually with the little experience I have shooting I wouldn't argue with anyone here anyway.

    :)

    I guess I would put the "super fast draw" as a component of shooting good classifier times since it seems that you have to go all zone 3 to get a good time on them (since the occasional "Hail Mary" gets lucky and pushes those out of match speed for the said class). Do you find you have a different draw speed for a classifier stage than you do for a field stage?

    Thanks for the info!

    Classifiers are all a bit of a crap shoot. Too many people shoot them over and over again to get a good score to send in. They are just hurting themselves. The best shooters are the ones that consistently work on getting better, and the majority of the classifiers come from shooting major matches. That's the real test!

    Good points...

    May I ask this? If the best shooters are the ones that consistently work on getting better, wouldn't it "a super fast draw" be on that skills lists?

    I understand how you all feel that the draw is not as important in the "game" Since one would draw a limited amount of times in a match.

    I felt the same way until I learned about Steel Challenge, I found that increasing my overall skill as a shooter in every aspect is important, not just pick out bits and pieces where they are advantageous to the game.

    Good thread!

    Do master competitors point-shoot?

    in Handgun Techniques

    Posted

    You can shoot using your sights just as fast as NOT using your sights while point shooting. Calling your shots is required to effectively know that the shot is good, bad or marginal. Being able to call your shots allows you to transition to the next target or exit the shooting position way faster and more aggressively because you KNOW that the last shot on the previous target is good.

    Every time I did point shooting (target focus) verses a sight focus my times were close but my hits while point shooting were always worse than using my sights. Can I rely on my Index or Natural Point of Aim to sling rounds in the direction of a target while point shooting? Yes. Is doing that more consistent than simply using my sights? NO. You need points to divide by your time. Point shooting is a sure way of collecting a bunch of crappy points.

    In the top end of this game, the stage times of the top dogs are usually within a second. Its the points captured that separates who wins or loses. Look at the results of most major matches, there is almost always a B, A, or M classification shooter that is able to shoot a stage in the same time as the top dogs, but their points are horrible. That is usually because the lower classified shooters are point shooting the stage and simply slinging lead at targets in a hurry and hoping they get their hits. Some times these guys hook up and knock it out of the park. But the majority of the time it ends up being a train wreck.

    Nailed it.

    Agree!

    Perhaps the interpretation of "point shooting" is similar what others know as " pure indexing" on target with minimal(if any visual input from sights) and 2 yanks of the trigger...

    How Do You Learn To Run With A Gun

    in Handgun Techniques

    Posted

    I spent years playing tourney level paintball. I think that helped me out tremendously. Now I just use an airsoft gun to practice with.
    This was it for me too. I spent 10 years playing paintball across the country and I think it has been a big help for me. I have also suggested it to a few shooters to try and most have said it helped. You gotta play against some good players so it forces you to run and gun.

    This point seems to be a common progression here in Southern California also. Transitioning from paintball to practical shooting, myself included. To compliment that further, the same competitive roots and sponsor jerseys transfers over at a high level too!

    A friend also played at the tournament level and learned practical shooting 2 years ago and proclaims, "How come I didn't know about practical shooting till now?!" I said, "So, you are doing it now!" hehe

    I'm sure you all agree and read on this thread... practice , practice and more practice.

    Enjoy the journey.

    Single Stack Build Major or Minor

    in USPSA/IPSC Shooting

    Posted

    I've said this before in other places, but most state and Area matches are much more Production friendly than Single Stack Major friendly. If you don't shoot SS-only matches a lot and have no particular attraction to Major (I happen to believe the .45 is the perfect SS round, but I'm strange), then you might want to shoot Minor--IF you can shoot accurately enough to not drop a bunch of points for shooting C's at speed. If not, then Major makes more sense, in my not-so-humble.

    Why not build both slides to fit the frame?

    Good Plan.. Dual top ends.. been done before with great success.

    Ensure your barrel ramps are alike and build both topends at same time so the smithy can plan for it..

    9mm major at Nationals

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    I crono'd here in Connecticut at 170 PF and at Area 7 in New Hampshire.

    Elevation in CT was 350 ft and 157 ft in NH

    When I went to crono in open nationals - I only hit 164 tops.

    elevation at the range was 3000ft.

    What gives ?

    Same here brother..

    So Cal, 172 PF

    St. George. I squeaked by at 165.3

    Whew!

    124 MG CMG

    HS-6 about 8.3

    Tula Small pistol

    2014 Nationals - Back to Combined?

    in USPSA Nationals

    Posted

    It may not limit the competitors but it will water down the competition. The best shooters in the country will be spread out in other divisions and won't be going head to head. If true competition is what you want then you want the best shooting against the best. We had our first peak at this during Revo Nats with TGO and Jerry going at it for the first time against each (that I know of) other. In the past there was no reason for TGO to pick up a wheel gun. To me anyway, Nils win this year has to be one of the best nats wins ever when you consider the depth of the competition and just how close the race was.

    If you just want 400 people coming out and rubbing shoulders together and catching up with how the family is doing, then lump them all together and have a BBQ at the end of the week.

    I agree with you. Many of the top shooters will HAVE to choose "a" division vs. the previous back to back set up.

    This huge 5 day would work better in the early days when there was only 2 divisions. LTD and OPEN

    Can you miss fast enough to do good?

    in USPSA/IPSC Shooting

    Posted

    I'm still on the pursuit to get faster and more efficient, in which I see is moving, engagement and transition. Not necessarily trigger speed or splits. .

    preach it bruthah!

    I worked area 1 and the last 2 nationals, so I got to see a LOT of shooters running the same stage. Many of the top guys (nils, TGO, bob krogh, and others) had pretty normal sounding splits, they just didn't waste *any* time, and they got their hits. I think any B shooter has fast enough splits (in terms of trigger speed) to compete at the highest level.

    the problem is because of there accuacy at speed they can matntain faster splits to a smaller tgt,

    I get real close to them on easy wide open tgts but squeeze that tgt down with no shoots and hard cover and my splits get really slow. where it seams that they can run a higher rate of fire through a dificult array

    I wouldn't say "problem", I believe just a greater level of confidence in their ability in addressing that tight array. Which can be misconstrued has "double tapping" without regard of aiming.

    We've all read in Brian's or Ben's book that we need to practice on our opportunities, not what we are already good at.

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