Steve4102

Sure, Square Slide. Cracked Round Top Slide.

I had a new in Dec 10, 40 Compact with the unimproved round-top slide. The slide cracked with less than 300 rounds through it. I sent it back to EAA along with $20 for return shipping, that's right you must pay for return shipping. They slapped on a new unimproved round top slide. The slide cracked again with less than 300 rounds. I sent it back a second time and they just slapped on another POS round top slide. The third unimproved round top slide also cracked with less than 300 rounds. Back to EAA one more time. This time they replaced the POS unimproved round top slide with an Old Style Square slide. So far so good.

Here is one. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=106314

I've read this as well, but I'm not convinced this is the case. I cracked three slides in a matter of weeks. If the problem was a bad lot then they are still installing that bad lot on their guns as of Dec 2010. The only way they could stop my slide from cracking was to replace it with the old style square slide. Doesn't seem like a casting issue to me.

Depends on what you have. A new and unimproved round top slide in the steel wonder, and older model with the square slide or the Elite Match. I purchased a new Compact Steel Wonder in 40 S&W with the new unimproved round top slide last fall. With less than 300 rounds through it the slide cracked. Sent it back to EAA along with a check for $20 to pay for return shipping, that's right you have to pay for shipping both ways. They slapped on a new unimproved round top slide and sent it back. Another 300+ rounds and the slide cracked again. Sent it back again on my dime and all they did was slap on a new slide. Third slide and a few hundred rounds later and the slide cracked again(that's 3), big surprise. This time they issued me a call tag and paid for shipping both ways. They slapped on a new slide, but this time it was an old style square top slide. Looks like this now.

I have a Witness 40 Compact and the barrel is smooth as glass. I would call EAA and have it checked out.

Nevermind. Slide cracked again!

I have a new Witness Compact in 40 S&W that is giving me fits. When it was new it ran great except that the slide would lock back for no reason. After a few hundred rounds the slide cracked. I sent it back to EAA and they replaced the slide. With the new slide I am having a lot of trouble getting this thing to cycle. Even with no mag or ammo the slide would catch at a certain point and hang up. I figured it needed to be broken in, so I lubed it up, plopped my ass in front of the TV and racked the slide back and forth till my blisters popped. It's better, not great, but better. It does not hang up without a mag anymore, but it still hangs in the same place with a loaded mag. It hangs just before the bullet contacts the feed ramp. If I give the slide a little push with my thumb it will close. So, I'm out of ideas except for maybe a heavier recoil spring. Might be enough help get this thing to cycle? Problem is I can't find any springs for this thing. It is a compact 40 S&W that has a two spring system. Anyone now where I can get a set of heavier springs for this Compact Model? Thanks

Thanks for the help!

I've got a new EAA Witness Compact in 40 that's giving me a bit of trouble and I could use some help. This gun is new and has about 100 rounds through it. So far I have only fired handloads through it. 180gr Montana Gold seated to 1.125, medium charges of 3n37 and 231, run through the Redding GR-X die and crimped with the Lee Factory Crimp die. I'm getting some failure to feed. The slide will lock back on occasion with rounds still in the mag. I know it is not my thumb as it does this even when shooting right hand only. I also get a few "stove pipes" now and then, at least one per Mag. Think maybe this gun just needs some more range time to get broken in or is there something else going on? Thanks Steve Oh, I forgot to mention, I have three different mags, one that came with the pistol and 2 that I purchased direct from EAA. Same issues with all three.

I have had similar problems with my Elite Match. I found that lubing the mag just creates more problems down the road, the more I shoot the more crap gets built up in he mag. I have been lubing my mags and followers with graphite, you know,the little tube you get at the Hobby store. Puff some powder into the mag and all over the follower and I am good to go for hundreds of rounds. BTW, I seat my 180gr JHP at 1.245.

I have a new PO-6 and now I need a holster. I am having difficulty finding any manufacturer that lists the PO-6, is there other CZ models that use the same holster ar the PO-6? Thanks Steve

I just picked up my 2nd Witness. This one is a 40 S&W Compact 2005. Took it out for a test drive today with a few different kinds of ammo, Had some cheap Blazer Aluminium, Winchester WW and Blazer Brass. It had a few feeding problems at first, but after about 50 rounds it cleared up and shot great. After a few more boxes of ammo it started to through fliers and the accuracy was gone. Took it apart for inspection and found the slide had cracked about 1 1/2 inches from the muzzle, the recoil spring is all bent and mangled and the barrel has a deep gouge or grove just under the locking lugs. I have read that some of the older Witnesses had problems with the slides cracking, but I thought that issue was resolved. Is this still a problem with the 40 S&W Compact or did I just get a lemon? Thanks Steve

Thanks Mike, but the regular Grams kit will not work in the Compact model. The compact follower has a 1/4 inch notch cut into the front of it that the standard mag and follower does not have.

I just picked up another Witness. This time it's a 40 S&W Compact Steel Wonder. This is supposed to be a 12 round mag, but like my 10MM Elite getting a full mag with the original spring/follower is next to impossible. I was checking out Henning's site hoping to find some Grams engineering springs and followers that would fit this Compact Model. Not exactly sure what I'm looking for, but I don't think they are available, am I correct? So, on to my questions, are there any spring/follower kits that work a little better than the factory ones in the 40 Compact? If not, I need to get a few mags and some extra springs, can you help me with the proper mags and springs for the Compact? Thanks.

I have a Witness Elite Match 10MM that is beating my brass up pretty good and I was hoping you guys could help me figure out how to fix it. The pistol is less than a year old. It has a 22lb recoil spring and Grams mag springs and followers. I was doing a little load development with 180gr XTP, Longshot and AA #9. I worked up to 13.5gr of #9 without a hitch. It shot very well, no FTF, no damaged brass, accuracy was very good, but velocity was a little slow, average about 1185fps. Anyhow the problem came when I switched to my Longshot loads. I worked up to 9.2gr of Longshot, this is .3gr under max according to Hodgdon. At 9.2gr velocity averaged about 1285fps and accuracy was good, but some of the brass looked like hell. I also got brass stains on the slide. Here is a picture of one piece of Longshot brass. It appears that the brass is beating itself up on the slide. So why only with the full house Lonshot loads. You would think that if the recoil spring was to stiff this would happen with other loads as well, especially weaker loads?? Any Ideas?? Thanks Steve

Thanks everyone. Blade Tech it is.

I have a EAA Witness Elite Match in 10mm. I have been searching for a OWB belt or paddle holster for it with little success. I could use some suggestions, recommendations or links to holsters that will fit the Elite Match. Thanks Steve

I have a EAA Witness Elite Match in 10mm. I have been searching for a OWB belt or paddle holster for it with little success. I could use some suggestions, recommendations or links to holsters that will fit the Elite Match. Thanks Steve

I have a EAA Witness Elite Match in 10mm. I have been searching for a OWB belt or paddle holster for it with little success. I could use some suggestions, recommendations or links to holsters that will fit the Elite Match. Thanks Steve

Thanks, Before I posted this thread I did a little investigating on the new Elite 10mm Mag. I found some burrs on the follower. I polished them off and nothing changed. I swapped out the follower and spring from my good mag to my bad mag. The bad mag loaded fine with the good follower and spring. The good mag would not load with the bad follower and spring. So, not the tube, but the follower and spring. I did some more swapping back and forth and gave up. I brought the mag to a gunsmith and he basically told me the follower is a POS. I called EAA and they told me to send the mag to them for repair or replacement. That's when I figured I would just order two new mags and be done. Wrong, these two suffer from the same problems. What I have done so far is to send the 3 bad mags off to EAA. I don't know what will come of this and at this point I don't care. I just want my 10MM to run. So, I will wait for EAA to send me the mags back and I will fill them with Gram springs and followers. Thanks Steve

Thanks Mitch, Before I posted this thread I did a little investigating on the new Elite 10mm Mag. I found some burrs on the follower. I polished them off and nothing changed. I swapped out the follower and spring from my good mag to my bad mag. The bad mag loaded fine with the good follower and spring. The good mag would not load with the bad follower and spring. So, not the mag, but the follower and spring. I did some more swapping back and forth and gave up. I brought the mag to a gunsmith and he basically told me the follower is a POS. I called EAA and they told me to send the mag to them for repair or replacement. That's when I figured I would just order two new mags and be done. Wrong, these two suffer from the same problems. What I have done so far is to send the 3 bad mags off to EAA. I don't know what will come of this and at this point I don't care. I just want my 10MM to run. So, I will wait for EAA to send me the mags back and I will fill them with Gram springs and followers. Thanks for helping me with the right kit to purchase.

I have two Witness Elite Match in 10mm. The mag for my first Elite Match works OK, but the mag for my new Elite 10mm will only allow me to load 6-7 rounds. This is supposed to be a 15 rounder. I also have two brand new 15 round 10mm EAA mags that cannot be loaded with more than 8 rounds. I read that the Grams Spring and Follower kit will fix me right up. Only problem is, I ain't smart enough to figure out which kit I should purchase. http://www.henningshootsguns.com/shop/magparts.html Can you guys help me out with this? Which spring/follower do I need for a Witness Elite Match 10mm 15 rounders? Thanks Steve

I have two Witness Elite Match in 10mm. The mag for my first Elite Match works OK, but the mag for my new Elite 10mm will only allow me to load 6-7 rounds. This is supposed to be a 15 rounder. I also have two brand new 15 round 10mm EAA mags that cannot be loaded with more than 8 rounds. I read that the Grams Spring and Follower kit will fix me right up. Only problem is, I ain't smart enough to figure out which kit I should purchase. http://www.henningshootsguns.com/shop/magparts.html Can you guys help me out with this? Which spring/follower do I need for a Witness Elite Match 10mm 15 rounders? Thanks Steve