btom

"""The fact that Winchester labeled it Auto Comp should have been the first clue that it was designed for compensated guns""". Yes it is made for compensated hg's, but I was told it would work for the usage I desired. I am finding out that it doesn't like my loads. Tom

These are the guns I shoot and the loads I use for the Autocomp powder S&W 686-6" 357magnum (not compensated) 38sp Berry plated 125gr FP Win AutoComp / 6.0 gr 5.8 - 6.3 gr 1.440" Roll Crimped Glock 34 (not compensated) 9mm Berry plated 115gr RN Win AutoComp / 5.0gr 4.8 - 5.3 gr 1.10" Taper Crimp Taurus PT1911 (not compensated) 45acp Berry Plated 200gr SWC Win AutoComp / 7.2gr 6.7 - 7.4 gr 1.220" Taper Crimp Ruger Blackhawk Convertable 45 (not compensated) 45LC 255gr FP Plated w/ Cannelure Win AutoComp / 7.7gr 7.3 - 8.4gr 1.590" Roll Crimped

I have been loading 38sp and 9mm with Winchester AutoComp for about a year. It seems a little unstable to me. I'm not an experienced reloader, like some who have been loading for years, but have better results with Bullseye and W231. I seem to get inconsistent power results, sometimes almost a squib. When I load with W231 or Bullseye, the rounds seems to shoot more consistent. The problem is that I have a large container of the stuff, 8 lbs. I hate to waste the powder, but I don't like the results of it. Anybody have similar experiences? Tom

I have some Howard Leight's I have been using for about a now, and do a very nice job. I am sure the Sordins are nicer, but you pay more. I have tried the pro ears but they were too heavey and bulky. I thought I might not get the protection with the HLs, but I do. I am satisfied with the HL's, and would recommend they to people who don't want to spend 2-3 hundred dollars. http://www.cabelas.c...equestid=151835

The above was my post from October of 2009, since then I have used these two types of hearing protection: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/EAR-Disposable-Ear-Plug-3WE33?Pid=search http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=671923 I use the plugs for High Power shooting, shotgun, and most pistol. The only time I "need" the muffs is when I shoot inside at our basement range, or when some big booming pistol rifle is shooting. Then, if I don't have the muffs on, I put them on over my plugs. I have never been to the point of needing anything else. One thing I like about the HL's is that they are not expensive, and if they break, I'll get a new pair and still be way under the sordins, pro ears, or walkers. I don't risk my hearing, so I wouldn't use them if they didn't work. Whatever you decide to go with, "just buy them" and be done with it. Sometimes things are so over "anal"yzed on the internet, it becomes confusing on what to get!

I did the same thing with the Pro ears, I just didn't like them for the price they wanted. I bought some Howard Leight's and love them. The Sordin's are probably the best though, as I have not heard of a bad comment about them.

I have some Howard Leight's I have been using for 4 months now, and do a very nice job. I am sure the Sordins are nicer, but you pay more. I am satisfied with the HL's, and would recommend they to people who don't want to spend 2-3 hundred dollars. http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp;jsessionid=SRDXRW2GGASSDLAQBBKCCOFMCAEFKIWE?id=0044358228573a&type=product&cmCat=froogle&cm_ven=data_feed&cm_cat=froogle&cm_pla=1240605&cm_ite=0044358228573a&_requestid=151835 bt

I know this post is a little late inre of the original date, but I hope this helps out. I ordered a pair of Pro Ears Mag Gold NRR33 from MidwayUSA. I tested them for the day at the range, and they the hearing protection aspect seemed great while shooting my 9mm, and 45acp. No problem. The comfort of them was a different story. They were too heavy and bulky, and caused some pain in the lower part of my left ear. Strangely enough, they didn't seem to seal well eithter? For that price, I wasn't happy, and sent them back to Midway for a refund. Midway is very accomodating to say the least. I am beginning to think the best way to go with hearing protection is the "passive" type. bt

great info, thank you

The results of 50 rounds of 45acp's I just loaded : 185gr swchp's, 4.7gr of W231 were "border line weak". One bad thing about shooting when I did was the wind was blowing into my face. I know I loaded on the minimum side, but that's a good thing to do (as you all know). I felt some grit (unspent powder) blowing back in my face? One round failed to reset the slide, and a couple other rounds were close to doing so. These are indications that I need a little more powder. Hodgdon told me 5.0 to 6.0 gr's, but I wanted to be on the safe side. Powder not completely burning is a unique way of reflecting too weak of a load? Has anybody read that before? btom

hey, thanks for your help. I have been told many different loads to try, but I am going lite: 4.7gr of w231, 185gr SWCHP, col 1.22". This is just for target loads anyway, and I don't want too much recoil. I think the gun will cycle nicely (PT1911). Thanks for your help, tom

Hi, I am new to the forum, and reloading. After much searching, I could not find load data for the components I have. I am trying to load 45acp with W231 powder, along with a Zero 185gr SWCHP bullet. I don't like to guess at loads, but the closest I could find to similar bullets/powder was anywhere from 4.6 to 6.5gr. This is not making me feel comfortable, especially as a beginner. I have loaded 38sp very successfully, so I am capable with the right info. Please help with load data, I will really appreciate it.