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Thanks, Flexmoney and PistolPete.
I should have mentioned that I've downloaded the manual from Dillon. I was wondering about additional info that may be added, like shortcuts, gotchas, and such.
I don't shoot either .38 super or 30-06 (as I understand are covered in Brian's video), but I'm not interested in caliber-specific info.
Mike
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I recently purchased a used 650 and have yet to set it up (I have to move my reloading bench). I was thinking of the videos, either Dillon's or Brian's. Does Brian's video contain the same setup info that Dillon's does, or do I need both?
Mike
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Look here for a previous discussion:
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...t=0entry76851
I never did get one!
Mike
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Thanks for the offer but BV's bays are significantly wider than AF. Last Friday we had a classifier CM99-4 with 8 targets in a row with 9" between and we really didn't have any room to spare. I've probably got a measurement somewhere, but, without going to too much effort, based on CM99-4, I'd say we've got about 20ft wide to work with ... maybe an extra couple feet on both sides ... but we need that to keep from shooting the walls.
If you've got some real skinny ones, ya, I'm interested. But, like me, I'm guessing you've used all the real estate you've got.
I'd like to shoot BV but my wife's working 7-7 every Wed & Thu into the foreseeable future ... that's why AF is Fridays. Anyhow, BV a heckuva drive for me too. Thanksgiving worked out ... apparently for quite a few people.
So, have you shot at AF with us yet? Eric was there last Friday.
We only had 15 the first match and 27 last Friday ... we got done by around 8:00 last Friday. We've got plenty of room ... despite the width of the bays.
Burnsville's are 24' wide. We used as much as possible, but had to be careful of angled shots.
I'll look for some "slim" ones.
I haven't shot at Armored Fire (too far for me, too), but I've heard good things about it.
I'm not suprised that Eric was there. He goes everywhere!
Mike
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Hi, Deuce. If you are who I think you are, I've got almost all of the matches Eric and I used in the Burnsville Winter League (about 6 years!). No charge!
Interested?
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Deuce,
Steve Ellis --- who was a photographer in Minnesota? 50s, 5'10"-6', grey beard, slender, softspoken? That Steve Ellis?
I'm not Deuce, but sadly yes, that Steve Ellis!
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A middle-aged guy treated himself to a brand new Ford T-Bird convertible and headed for the open road. Soon, he was cruising along at 90 mph, enjoying the wind blowing through what little hair he had left on his head.
"Wow, this is great!" he thought. But then he looked in his rearview mirror and noticed that there was a State Trooper behind him, blue lights flashing and siren blasting.
"I can get away from him with no problem," thought the guy as he floored the gas and flew down the road at over 120 mph.
Then he thought, "What am I doing? I'm too old for this kind of thing." He pulled over to the side of the road and waited for the State Trooper to catch up with him.
The Trooper pulled in behind the T-Bird and walked up to the man. "Sir," he said looking at his watch, "my shift ends in 30 minutes. If you can give me a reason why you were speeding - one that I've never heard before - I'll let you go."
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The man looked up at the Trooper and said, "Last week my wife ran off with a State Trooper, and I thought you were bringing her back."
The Trooper replied, "Have a nice day."
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I haven't talked to Terry (Phelps) in a couple of years, but he said that he was not producing the case feeder any longer... I used one of his casefeeders from 87 until last year when I bought a S1050...with it I could load 100rounds in 11minutes, counting time to flip primers, and load the primer tube.... he originally designed the feeder to mount on the die cast metal feed tray on the right side of the machine, and included a couple of reinforcement parts.. this was the source of most problems and not with Terry's product... the die cast part wouldn't hold up... the actual casefeeder used a needle roller bearing that followed a cam to work the spring loaded plunger that inserted the case into the shell plate... the machined housing was hard anodized and mine did not show any wear after 14 years of USPSA loading....I made my own case collator with a stainless salad bowl and 3/4 to 1/2 copper reducing coupling... but used the "Freeloader" design... which was a "melmac" bowl hot glued to a funnel that sat on a 1/2 inch plastic tube... the hole in the center of the bowl was sized to only allow the brass to fall heavy (base) side down when the apparatus was shaken as the roller followed to the top of the cam.... I made a permanent mounting bracket out of some scrap 1/4 stock to mount the casefeeder and had a friend TIG the mount directly to the shell plate holder...it was still working when I decided to update (it was actually on a 450)....If you buy on e-bay make sure you get the cam plus the roller plunger.... the Freeloader was an option... there should still be a few around Fla.... .... regards Les
Thanks, Les.
Too bad he's not making it anymore.
Did the complete assembly move up and down with the shell plate?
Mike
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I was breaking it all down and selling it off separately. I will have to put it all together again to make sure I still have all the parts.
OK. Please let me know.
Mike
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I believe all the parts are there. I think I have the single sheet with the directions on how to use it. I'll take a look in the morning and get back with you.
I remember seeing one setup at a local shop gunshop in the early 90s and I recall it had a feed tube with a funnel at the top. This one was setup with a Dillon casefeeder and has a Dillon drop tube (not shown in the pics. I'm not sure if the sheet metal adapter on the unit I have is as from Phelps or a modification to accomodate the Dillon part. Can you post a pic of the factory setup?
Sheldon, were you able to check if all of the parts were there?
Since yours is setup for a Dillon casefeeder, is that included?
Anyway, I really appreciated the pictures. If I can't buy one, maybe I can build a "reasonable" facsimile.
Mike
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SkyRock, Phelps Machine R&D, Clermont FL 34711 352-243-1234. Hope this helps, post info if you get any. Larry
Thanks, Larry, but that was a lesson in frustration. I called three times over three days and got an answering machine stating that no one was available to take my call. I assume that it's Phelps Machine, but the message didn't say. Each time I left my phone number and reason for calling. No joy!
I tend to stay away from that kind of customer support!
Thanks for the effort, though.
Mike
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Sorry, I don't have a scanner. The only two pictures I've seen were the picture before me in the Denny's catalog, and the one from the test in a gun mag (I thought it was American Handgunner, but I haven't been able to find it). If memory serves, they were the same photo, but the catalog reproduction isn't a clear picture.
The AH review that I did find specifically mentioned a "Freeloader" (capitalized, as if that was a brand - Google wasn't a help!) funnel with a feed tube. The picture clearly shows a steep funnel full of cartridges that feeds into a tube. The tube appears to be connected directly to the feeding block(?). I think this is the block you show in several pictures; it has the company name sticker on it (like pic1.jpg). The article also mentions that there are two case tube adapters. With the shell plate fully lowered, the top of the tube looks like it connects to the bottom of the funnel at about the lower-middle of the powder measure, and the top of the funnel about 3" above the powder measure.
At a guess and from looking at your pictures, it appears that the funnel and feed tube, full of cases, rides up and down with the shell plate. Does the 650's casefeeder do this?
Mike
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Well, that's more than I hoped for!
lkytx:
That's the closest to the add in the Denny's catalog: Phelps Machine R&D. According to Google, that phone number's correct.
Sheldon:
I think that's the one, although the manufacture on one part, Phelps
Enterprises, is a name I hadn't heard of. The phone number doesn't check (on Google) either.
Sheldon's pictures "forced" me to check my sources, so I got out the Denny's catalog and confirmed the name Ikytx mentioned. Then I dug back into my American Handgunner "archives" and found the name, Phelps-Ramar, Inc. out of Tavares, FL (Jan/Feb 1990, p83). That isn't the writeup I remember, but it was a very favorable one. The common thread is the Phelps name, so they must be the same.
Sheldon, do you still have all the parts and manuals?
Mike
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Some years ago, I passed up the chance to buy a casefeeder for my 550. I still have the Denny's catalog with the Phelps (sp?) casefeeder. It got a good review in American Handgunner, too.
I don't want a 650, but I do want a casefeeder (I was spoiled by my first press, a Lee Progressive 1000 that I sold when my Dillon SDB arrived).
Anyone have one of these? If I could get the specs on it, I'd like to duplicate it, or something.
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I grabbed my Dillon bench wrench to remove the nut holding the die in place. Guess what? The bench wrench doesn't work too well when all four dies are in place- it's hard to get a good grib on the nut. I went to Sears and bought a Craftsman deep socket. Beautiful!!!!! Worked like a charm. It slides right over the die and grabs on to the nut with no problem- no clearance issues. Hope some of you out there find this useful.
Dittos on the Dillon bench wretched wrench.
I also made an "emergency" trip to Sears a couple of years ago. Works like a charm! Good investment for anyone with a 550, and I assume a 650, too.
I also made an "emergency" trip to Sears a couple of years ago. Works like a charm!
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Thanks, Bill, but I'll have to pass.
Mike