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Data for Promo is available on the manufacuter's website. I used 3.2 gns under a Missouri Bullet 147gn LTCFP for 908fps and a PF of 133. Very soft shooting and went where I pointed it. Great load for minor, but a bit smokey. It shot well enough that I could live with it!
Gandof
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CeeZer what bullets are you using with clays to make power factor? I have been shooting 125g BBI and 124g Bayous and I liked that load with clays but was just barely able to make 125 PF. I have been using it for my steel challenge load but would like for it to work for USPSA until I can find more Solo.
Curious as to load data and gun you were using.
Just tested that bullet powder combo. 3.1 gns of Clays with the 125 gn BBI, getting a 124 PF. 3.3 gns got me a 131 PF. OAL was 1.12, and was fired in a Glock 35 w/Lone Wolf 9mm conversion barrel.
Gandof.
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Your problem could be occuring at the bullet seating operation if the case mouth is not properly expanded, or the case is too long. Don't see how it could possibly occur at the crimiping operation. And yeah it's a pain, but bottleneck rifle cases must be checked/trimmed to length before every loading. Not only can a long case cause chambering problems, it can also cause excessive pressures leading to-----------baaaaaadd things.
Gandof
Since when do you expand the mouth of a rifle case?
Since when do you expand the mouth of a rifle case?
Every time you size a bottle neck rifle case..
As the expander ball on the depriming stem is withdrawn it opens the case neck back to spec after sizing. A slightly larger expander ball might be required to prevent the shoulder from collapsing when the bullet is seated. The case mouth is routinely chamfered after trimming as well. This also faciltates bullet seating.
Gandof
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Your problem could be occuring at the bullet seating operation if the case mouth is not properly expanded, or the case is too long. Don't see how it could possibly occur at the crimiping operation. And yeah it's a pain, but bottleneck rifle cases must be checked/trimmed to length before every loading. Not only can a long case cause chambering problems, it can also cause excessive pressures leading to-----------baaaaaadd things.
Gandof
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Old and lazy I guess, but I don't care for adding operations to my process. This is especially true when it's a solution in search of a problem. I operate the safety prime with my left hand and can load at a decent rate with the LCTP. I have to look at the case mouth anyway, so it's easy to check powder level. I use the turret for my load development and small quantites of less used calibers, so I'm not loading hundreds of rounds in a sitting.
I don't use the powder check die on my 650 either as I look in the case when placing a bullet in the case mouth. It might be different if I were using a bullet feeder. Everyone is different, so go with what works best for you.
Good Luck!
Gandof
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all i do is put a .40 brass with the opening pointing up the ramp...works great...
That does work great!! Thanks!
Gandof
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I'm on my third case of the 125s in 9mm. No complaints. Bullets are consistant in size and weight, and as accurate as any. Great folks with a great product and service. When I finish up my 6k or so cast bullets on hand, I'll order some in .40.
Gandof
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I have owned pretty much all of the Lee presses with the exception of the "C" press. The LCT is the best of the lot, and I still own mine. The larger "O" frame single stage press is worth having as well. I load my low volume rounds on the turret. I'll keep that one! I use the 650 for my volume loading. Never regretted buying it.
Gandof
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Hornady Fourth Edition lists the following:
124gr LRN
Unique 4.7 (Starting Load) for 1025fps
Unique 5.1 (Max Load) for 1125fps
C.O.L. 1.09
Your C.O.L. @ 1.085 should be fine with loads in that range. 4.8-4.9 will get you a PF of 130 or so. Should run fine in your pistol.
Stay Safe,
Gandolf
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Wow! I would have gone with slightly heavier springs in the revolver. Still if you need that kind of primer seating depth control, looks like you've got the solution! A pretty inovative one too. Good job!
Gandof
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I've not loaded that particular bullet, but have loaded a few tons of 200gr LSWCs using several different manafacturer's dies without any problems. As previously posted, proper adjustment of the powder die to give the proper flare will prevent any lead shaving. Can't imagine how the Llyman dies could do anything the Dillons couldn't.
I'd load the suckers.
Gandof
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Had the same problem myself with my 9mm LW barrels. I had to load down to 1.09 to make them chamber. The short leade contacts the full diamater of the bullet before the gun goes into battery. Looks like LW would fix the short leade problem. I'll likely have a local smith fix mine and save time and shipping. Meanwhile, I'm using the Glock barrels. They work just fine.
RR
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The brass length has very litle to do with variances on the over all length..
Exactly, Carlosa! Well stated!
Brass length variations effect seating depth, but not OAL.
RR
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If any of your brass has come from USPSA, where 9 major is not uncommon, you will need the U die. I have loaded for both XD and Witness and they were tighter chamber guns, rejecting roughly 5% of my reloaded rounds due to bulged brass.
Agree 100% The first time you try to "Unload and show clear" and you can't retract the slide, you'll wish you had used the U die!
RR
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Yep.
RR
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Looks great! Not too many people have a 650 they can trailer to the range!!
RR
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Sounds like the 1050 is just the ticket for loading the .223. Case trimming and primer pocket swageing done right on the press. What's not to like?
RR
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I had one of the adjustable charge bars when I was using a LoadMaster. It didn't meter small charges (<4gr) of any pistol powder I tried. Charge weights were light to none. Other wise good measure. I've got one on the .40 tool head for my 650.
RR
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Whatever I put on Saturday morning is what I wear to the match. In the summer, it's cargo shorts, cotton shirt with tennis shoes. I have a vest I bought at a gunshow for $30. I only wear the silly thing for IDPA.( NO PATCHES) BlackHawk or Blade Tech gear on a Bullhide belt. Most of the guys I shoot with don't feel the need to dress specifically for the game. I preffer USPSA, but IDPA is more "Old Guy" friendly. Still enjoy shooting them both, I just don't go out of my way to dress specifically for shooting.
RR
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Now the wait begins. Been reloading on a single stage for years. I hope it's much better!!
Look at it this way:
Eventually the majority of serious reloaders arrive at where you're at. Just think of the point at which you started to reload as the begining of the journey. Now eight weeks doesn't seem so long does it? Enjoy!
RR
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Over the years, I've go through pretty much all the Lee line of presses. Still have a Loadmaster, a Pro 1000 and a Classic Turret. I have loaded somewhere in the 80k-100k rounds on the Loadmaster. As mentioned in an earlier post, if you're not a problem solver, with a good mechanical appitude, they are not for you. I'm selling the Loadmaster and the Pro 1000. I do the majority of my reloading on my 650, I'll keep the Classic Turret for my low volume pistol rounds, it's a real jewel. Although I got years of decent service out of my Lee progressives, I'm careful who I recommend them to. They are for sure not for everyone! By the way, the Dillon really is worth the money.
RR
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I can't think of any good reason to buy the 550 over the 650 other than price. There seems to be a misconception that the 650 is not capable of loading rifle ammo. Not sure where that came from. I have the .223 conversion for mine, and there is a extensive list of rifle caliber conversions listed in the manual. Caliber changes are simple enough and require little time. Just my opinion. My first Dillon was a 450, which later became a 550 with the conversion, great press. I currently have a 650, and so far like it very much! For my money the 650 is worth the extra bucks.
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I should add: I don't shoot major with 9mm. I reserve the .40 for that. My reloading process is the same for all my pistol calibers tho.
RR
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P320
I sort range brass brass by caliber, (using the case sorter) soak dirty range brass in my home brew cleaning solution, dry, and throw it in the tumbler. I give it a quick visual check (By the handfull) as I throw it in the case feeder (Looking for badly damaged or cracks) and load it. I chamber check all my ammo, and visually check primers and for case cracks or damage. I usually load in lots of 1k, and chamber check it a couple hundred rounds at a time as I use it. If it will go bang, and hold the A zone at 30 yds I'm happy.
starting load for acurate #2 9mm?
in 9mm/38 Caliber
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A chronograph is nice to have. I reloaded 30 years or so before I got my first one. Somehow I survived, as most of us did durring the dark ages. If you're loading minor or midrange loads using good published data, and not seeing any pressure signs you'll likely be fine.
Still, with chronographs available in the hundred dollar range, there's no good reason not to have one.
Gandof