JThompson
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I'm one of those RO's who has been left downrange while the shooter had scooted up range to go shoot the rest the stage. My belt/mag pouches had gotten hooked on the door of the car that was being used as a prop for a stage. When I tried to run after the shooter as he was going for his next shooting position, I found myself immobile. I was speechless for about 2 seconds. I finally got "Stop" to come out of my mouth. And then laughing, I disengaged myself from the door. The shooter didn't even see me get stuck because the last set of targets was on the side berm away from the car. I offered a reshoot. I'm also thankful for the peanut gallery that also started yelling "Stop" at about the time I was when they realized that I was stuck.
That shit isn't any fun, I haven't got left downrange, but have had a shooter slow up on seeing I was going to get overrun. I clearly interfered with his run and before calling out the time or scoring offered him a reshoot and a thank you for not running me down of leaving me downrange.
JT
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Please let me know too. I've been searching ever since I got my gun done.
Getting a quote today, should know something very soon...
JT
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After borrowing my friends gun and losing the slide racker I need to find one to buy PLEASE
) any help PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEI have one on my backup gun I can get you... They are going into production soon, hoping to have them out in a couple weeks.
JT
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Please tell me where I can buy this aluminum slide racker for Quinn-2 mount?
In the online stores such as speedshooter, this item is not in stock. And they cannot say when this product will be available.
I'm heading in today to talk to a new shop to get them made... been getting more calls and emails than I can count. They should be done in a couple weeks... I'll know more tonight.
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If all of you will take HALF the amount of time you have spent arguing in this thread (and other threads) and apply it towards dry-firing or live-fire practice, you will all move up one class in your given division. Just an observation.
Nah, already as high as I can go, but it might get me back shooting at the GM level. I think with what little shooting I've been doing I'm probably closer to A class now.
JT
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I wasn't worrying about anyone retreating on me, because who shoots a COF, winds up at the end of the thing and then decides they want to run 15' uprange? I ran 300 shooters through that COF, only one decided to haul ass uprange.
Like this?
I think I saw you make that move at A5.
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Holy thread resurrection Batman. lol I guess someone is using the search function.
JT
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Discrepancy here:
10.5.5 Allowing the muzzle of a handgun to point at any part of the competitor's body during a course of fire (i.e. sweeping).10.5.5.1 Exception – A match disqualification is not applicable for sweeping of the lower extremities (below the belt) while drawing or re-holstering of the handgun, provided that the competitor's fingers are clearly outside of the trigger guard. This exception is only for holstered handguns. Sweeping does not apply to a handgun holstered in compliance with Rules 5.2.1 and 5.2.7
...and from Appendix A3:
Sweeping . . . . . . . . . .Pointing the muzzle of a firearm at any part of any person's body.Based on that I would propose that an RO getting downrange of a competitor is the ROs fault and he should offer a reshoot, BUT...if the competitor sweeps the RO with his gun, I feel that is the fault of the competitor. Even though I realize that DQ could likely be overturned if arbitrated, I would still issue it and let the RM / arb committee argue the discrepancy in the wording of 10.5.5 and the definition of sweeping in Appendix A3.
Since DQs have to be supported by rule, what "rule" would you cite?
Sanity check here... I agree that in this case there should be no DQ, but I did not say that, what I said was to regroup and then make your decision and here's why. If an RO falls or otherwise is out of position, they may not even be aware of it and if they are they might not be able to get the words out, I hope that is not the case and if that happens someone else would yell and I think in most cases it would not be a problem ,someone would yell, but there are cases where only one RO and none of the other shooters can even see the shooter or the RO. Happens with certain stages. At that point, if a shooter knows he's getting uprange and continues on uprange of the RO or God forbid, still engages targets, that guy is getting a DQ from my ass and he can fight it out in arb. There comes a time when the preservation of human takes precedence and if this person thinks engaging targets or leaving my ass downrange is acceptable then he needs an attitude adjustment in my book.
We live by the rules here, but let's not die for/by them... If a guy/lady is willing to leave a human being downrange and continue their progress uprange then I will DQ for UGH. If a shooter thinks this game of ours is more important than a life we have definitely gone down the rabbit hole.
That being said, I have never seen a shooter that knew and didn't stop themselves.
JT
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STOP!
Then USC followed by what the hell was that about and then make your decision on how to proceed. The bottom line is you can not allow a shooter to be up-range of you, or anyone and this is YOUR responsibility as an RO. The RO is responsible for the safety of everyone on the range, do not forget to include yourself in that equation.
JT
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Well, that's one of the things you get with PS. You no longer HAVE to total up the hits.
I know, but my point is, if it's a battle trying to get some scorekeepers to do something as basic as totaling up, or checking totals, how much more trouble will it be to get them to move to a new system completely. No offense to anyone here, but shooters can be a right lot of whiners sometimes.
I'm rather interested in hearing the downside stories just to have some idea as to what I could be letting myself in for if I try this next year. Has anyone tried and failed? Has anyone run into some major problems?
Overheat issues, if they are in a hot place with hardly any shade they will overheat and turn off. (Ipod) Also, if you use the battery pack with them you need to turn it on from the start and not wait until the battery is low on the pod. Charging created heat and the combo of charging and hot weather or direct sunlight can make it worse. Moisture, if you get rain or a very very humid day the can and will shut down for moisture. Adding last minute shooters, you need policy for squad changes and last minute entry as if you add them on the Ipad and then they do it on the pod you have reeentry and or scores being done on the same guy in two places. If the pod does not travel with the squad then every pod needs to be updated with the changed squad people or you have the guy that moved on the wrong squad and not on the right squad. No backup paper or way to print each shooter. If I have to write down all the hits at the end why not just d the damn scoresheet and be done with it.
And the biggest one of all, A lot of the CRO/RO do not like it and might even refuse to work for you at a major. Also, you can get a lot of passive aggressive resistance which can make everyone's day longer. The ROs feel that you are putting more work on them, or moving the work form the stats office to the ROs and they resent it. (Debate if ya want, but it's true)
There are many more little idios that can bite you in the ass too, suffice it to say that unless the battery issues, overheat, moisture and printing issues are dealt with, I would never use them at a major again. Hell, I didn't want to use it for this time, but was outvoted on it. That said, I did my best to make it work including some damned cool chests and two pods, keeping one in a cooler and swapping them out to make sure they didn't overheat.
There were a lot of little things that added up to a pain in the ass, many of them could have been avoided with better forethought on our part, but not having the experience with them beforehand is not the way to go. If you are going to use these for a big match you better damn sure use them for a BUNCH of smaller ones and get things running smooth and good policies in place to deal with it when things go sideways.
One must have is ample paper scoresheets for when something goes wrong, you need to have a way to keep the squads moving while your stats people figure out what's gone wrong. If you a have eleven stages, you should have a MIN of 16 devices.
If you want to hear more, call me and I will fill you in on the rest....
JT
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I have an early version of it and I was getting that sticking stuff and just put my Dillon funnel back in and no more issues. I get the odd bullet tip once in awhile because I just don't bell my 9mm much as the brass last a lot longer when you don't bell as much.
fyi
JT
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Micah,
You're have the man you used to be.
You look marvelous my friend!JT
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2nd Overall in Limited
Stage 11, only got 1/2 the thing videoed.... I started on the right marks, engaged that array, then the left, and then the far left, reloaded (then the video starts). Seemed like a good idea at the time, looking back, it was probably a wash.
MIke.
You're still a bagger! lol. I told ya you were M buddy. Great work there.
If I had to send you off to work on something it would be footwork . I don't want to take anything away from you though, you really shot awesome. He just got the A class guys, you almost got spanked by a B class. lol
JT
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Don't forget other factors, some people double pug, some don't hear well, some might not speak English.
The first thing you should say to a shooter is Make ready... period.
Now, I know it's up to them to make sure of the command, but we can save a lot of misunderstandings by issuing the MR as our first utterance.
JT
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It wouldn't take all that much for hosting and software. I'll speak with Kyle on it when I get ready to roll.
JT
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And that Kevin is why we pass it on and why this forum is so valuable... Nice job on heading off a situation in which you would have sent people home and possibly worse. You found a way to keep them from screwing up and it was within your power and legal for the rules.
Nice Job~~~~
JT
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Joomla is what you want, Wordpress works too, but I am more versed in Joomla. You can have anyone with sufficient rights post or submit articles pages, upload video photos etc. I know it will do what you want it too, but just have to find the damned time to do it. This is also an option where you don't need to know a bunch of code to do something...
To do it right you need to have back-up software in place and some security measures which need to be constantly updated and looked after. This is one area I wish we could have some funds to use to buy what we need in terms of hosting and software, perhaps even get a few bucks for the time that gets put in. It's hard to justify spending a lot of hours to build a state of the art site when you have to neglect other stuff to do it.
Anyway, we will get it done, but it sure would be nice to get a little help.
JT
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What I was seeing from the gun as it ran appears to be a loss of control of the brass. When you see a gun start tossing them everywhere and not ejecting some at all you need to look hard and the extractor. To my mind it is not controlling the case coming out of battery and into the ejector. What happens is the case just hits the ejector and goofy angles or just gets thrown at it if it's not being controlled properly.
Not just Glock, but if the ejector isn't long enough and the case contacts the breech at the same time or just after the ejector this can cause the issue too.
My bet is the extractor not controlling the case.
My 2 take it or not...
JT
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Kyle and I spoke some time ago about the lack of an Area 5 website... basically, it expired and nothing was done about it as a new director was coming into office. I had them point it to the simple site I created a couple years ago for the A5 championship; This just so it wasn't pointed at an ad site.
Kyle gave me some direction and would like it to be, among other things, a home for any club within the area that doesn't have a website. This website will be the best area site out there. It will include calendars, forums and much more.
Here's the deal... I'm busy as hell and need a hand. The website will be Joomla CMS 2.5 with a yet to be determined theme. We need people cablable of working within the Joomla framework. We need people to blog, we need people to shoot video and photos for the site too. We would like the site to be a Cliffs notes to everything happening in the USPSA, but specifically Area 5.
We will pay all helpers the same wage as the webmaster.
If you are interested in helping to make the best area site in the USPSA then hit me with a PM and let me know what you want/are able to do. Area 5 has been homeless long enough, let's make the GM of area websites.
JT
PS Admin, would sticky this for us please...
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Oh, & it never was applicable in the US (at least since 2004). It does seem to answer the OP's question about there seemingly not being a penalty.
It's not a problem, I just want to be clear for all the new ROs out there. You would be suprised at how many times what is discussed here makes it to the range.
Best,
JT
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IPSC Rule:
8.3.1.1 Once the appropriate command has been given, the competitor must not move away from the start
location prior to issuance of the "Start Signal" without the prior approval, and under the direct
supervision, of the Range Officer. Violation will result in a warning for the first offense and may
result in the application of Rule 10.6.1 for a subsequent offense in the same match.
USPSA Rule:
8.3.1.1 Once the "Make Ready" command has been given, the competitor must not move away from the start location prior to issuance
of the "Start Signal" without the prior approval, and under the
direct supervision, of the Range Officer
Yes, where in the 2008 book does it say what penalty can be applied? You can not use what is not there and it is NOT there. That was my point.... Any reference to anything, other than the current addition USPSA rules is meaningless.
You can't say, "Well in the 04 or the IPSC or the... it doesn't matter, it's either in the book or not.
JT
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The 2004 US rule is/was the same as it currently is.
"Violation will result in a warning for the first offense and may result in the application of Rule 10.6.1 for a subsequent offense in the same match."
Hmmm, perhaps I missed that as I do not remember reading that in the 08 rules.
JT
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When i go to the start position, I look the RO in the eye until I get 'make ready'. Probably I'm just worried about doing something wrong, but I've only been shooting uspsa 6 months or so, so I worry about being safe and playing by the rules first, shooting accurately second, and going fast third.
And this is what you SHOULD do if there is any question whatever...
JT
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I was going to talk to ya about that...
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