Jeffsbooks

If the site picture you draw on a pistol is correct, but as the shooter, you tilt the firearm one way or another, maintaining the correct site picture, how would that affect the point of impact?

@lead dispenser @ddc @shred Thank you for answering my leades-lands question.

Is there any virtue in the round coming closer to the lands? And while I'm asking, are the words leade and lands synonymous? Can they be used interchangeably?

I learned more about loading and seating ammo from this thread than from all the Googles and Youtubers I've read and watched. I've shorted my OAL and road tested the result in my gun barrel to establish my plunk test, which also worked on the Lyman case gauge. Not vice-versa, however, not Lyman then barrel... It's barrel first for me to establish OAL.

Thank you gentleman. Helpful and thoughtful answers one and all. @classifieds Oh my goodness, you cleaned up??? I try that and I can't find a darn thing. I'm going to decrease the OAL. Question (in the form of a statement), I thought it was a good thing for the bullet to get close to the lands.

LeadDispenser, Sorry to bug you. I just want to make sure I understand. If I plunk the round in the barrel, and it doesn't turn, it's still okay to fire. (Actually, I've been doing it, but I wonder if the pressures are too hard on the pistol.) Same with the case gauge, if I have to tap the round flat atop the gauge, it's not a sign the bullet's going to harm the pistol (or me). I mean, all things being equal—the OAL, the crimp, etc.—it's really the same bullet as the others I've loaded that go plunk and can be spun.

LeadDispenser, I've gotta try that.

ddc, I didn't know about the wasp waist effect. I thought I had a shell with the Glock bulge. If it's just wasp waisted, I couldn't care less. I had been doing the plunk test with the Lyman case gauge and failing the plunk test. The round sits atop the gauge, but I can press the cartridge into the gauge so it goes flat with the gauge, but it won't drop out. However, doing the plunk test in the barrel of the pistol, the round goes plunk, seats properly but doesn't turn. I don't see the problem with using the round. Am I wrong?

Shred, OAL is 1.14. Yes, I size and flare. Crimp is RCBS screwed to case mouth plus 1.8 turn. I will try the sharpie test and let you know.

No, Joe4d — I seat the bullet before I crimp it. I chose Winchester shells because I took apart a Herter's round (or maybe it was Eley) and tried to rough out their load for myself. I use Winchester brass, CCI primers, the VihtaVuori, and the crimp, which is from RCBS. I just use the RCBS crimp on the die, not the two seating stems.

Hi, I'm new here, and my intentions are good, so if I goof up, please bear with me. I've been reloading with 124 gr Precison Delta JHP bullets (working up loads right now at 4.7 gr of N330 VihtaVuori. Powder isn't my issue). I'm experiencing two oddities. In this first instance, using fresh Winchester brass, the loaded PD bullet creates a bulge at the neck. The other problem? The loaded bullet fails the plunk test. I'm using Lee dies and a Lyman case gauge. Here's more info. The fresh exterior WIN cartridge case measures 0.37" outside and 0.35" inside before the flare. The base of the 124 gr JHP bullet is 0.3550 ", as you might expect. The OAL on the round I just made measures 1.11", but I have experimented with the OAL. The final loaded cartridge case shows a visible bulge at the neck measuring 0.37" caused by the seated bullet. It fails the plunk test. If I taper the case until it screams uncle, it will pass the plunk test. A 115 gr Precision Delta FMJ round nose has no problems. Sometimes I get the same bulge with Starline brass but not always. Most other varieties of used brass don't bulge. Here's my question. Does Winchester make a weak case? Or does Precision Delta make a bullet too wide for the Winchester brass? Thank you.