cole440
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Based on my experience it’s going to be a decent amount slower out of the revolver. (This is just a guess from using 9mm data in 38sc)
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Nice! That’s a good looking revolver!
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I got 300 from Graf's. I was already paying shipping for something else and the price was within a few cents of Starline direct at that time.
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My thoughts exactly. Plus, I’d hate to get everything all set up, sights zeroed, press dialed in, to have to go back and change it later…
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3 grains of Titegroup behind a 160 blue bullet. 3 grains is giving (if I remember my data correct) 127 or so PF. I’m debating if I should set up for 3 grains biasing my measure toward the high side, or just go with 3.1 and never worry about it again. I’m thinking the second option is the best.
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Well guys, I finally had the chance to get out and complete the chrono work. Funny enough 3.0 grains is right where I am going to end up! The velocity gain from 2.6 to 2.8 grains was 80 FPS! from there it was small steps again. I ran tests through 3.1 grains just to see what it would do and it's nice to know that I have some headroom. The photo is the cases from the 3.1 grain test. No pressure signs whatsoever. They fell out of the cylinder without even using the extractor. I call it a win. I'm sure 3.2 would have been fine but I knew where I needed to be so I just called it at 3.1. I guess it's time to load a bunch and start getting the feel for them!
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I love me some 44 magnum so I’ve got a good supply of 2400 and blue dot around that I also run in 357. it’s just those pesky primers that need to come down in price! while we’re on the topic, how is powder availability for any of you guys. I seem to find almost exclusively Hodgdon family products (Winchester, imr, accurate, Hodgdon). I haven’t seen any alliant powders in years!
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In the testing I’ve done so far it’s been fine. Cleaner than 2400 in 357 magnum. A lot less of a fireball though haha
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All of the loads I’ve done so far have been dropped on a chargemaster and verified on a mechanical scale. So I’m not suspecting my weights just yet. I’d be more willing to suspect the chrono. I’ll load up more and go test them soon. and I see your in Tustin, if I can’t get this worked out, you’ll be hearing from me! I live up in Ventura County and Commute to Malibu.
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That was my hope, is that maybe I’m on the edge of breaking a velocity wall. I have seen that in rifle, but I don’t know about pistol loading for velocity. I think more of that fast powder to help offset the escaping gas from the B/C gap can only help.
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Here’s the kicker, I shot some ammo over it that I’m relatively certain of its velocity (although I haven’t shot it out of a 5 inch barrel. And it read almost 100 fps faster than I was expecting it to. So the chrono is at least in the ballpark.
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As it is I’m not seeing much change in velocity. I’m not real confident that I’m going to gain over 100 fps with .3 of a grain. but alas, all I can do is try!
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Same here, I started with 9mm loads, but they are nowhere near the velocity they should be. No pressure signs whatsoever, primers are as rounded as they get.
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I guess what I will do first is do a ladder test that goes through 3.2 grains or so and see where that gets me.
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As far as the 38sc, I am wondering if I need to seat deeper to really see some more velocity. I am currently seating at 1.200 and most people seem to be shorter by quite a bit…
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I did that with H4350 right at the beginning of the pandemic, I thought it was a ripoff at the time but by today’s standards its very reasonable!
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I’m only really using Titegroup because it’s the only fast powder I have at the moment, and as you guys know, supply is scarce lately. I just wanted a load to at least get started with!
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Thanks for the input! I just wanted to be diligent and start a little lower before I went over book. I am also questioning whether 3.0 grains will push that velocity up enough to get to 800 f/s to make a 125pf. I guess there is only one way to find out!
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I went and shot the 627 today. At 2.6 grains of Titegroup and 160gn blue bullet, I’m only getting about 670 or so fps. That was the highest I had loaded for today. that’s about 150 fps less than the book lists for a 4” 9mm. I figure the cylinder gap and longer than book OAL probably contributes to that. time to crank it up a little more I guess?
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How true are the comments about the titanium cylinder being “sticky” to extract and sensitive to different loads?
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If you have a 9mm, I see no reason not to use the 9mm case. I was after the ability to use factory 38 special for fun, or the ability to load it up with 357 magnum incase I ever want to carry the pistol or what have you. I didn’t really feel comfortable with the idea of being stuck with moon clips with a 929. Not to mention the other deciding factors in my particular situation that I mentioned before…
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I just found out that Hodgdon has published load data for a 160 round nose in 9mm. I like that.
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There were several reasons I went the way that I did. One is .357 magnum. The other is that I was able to purchase an older (pre 2003) 627 PC that already has trigger work and is ready to go. I didn't want to mess with setting up a 929 after reading the piles of threads about them.
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I am going to exchange the clips for the std ones. Thanks for the help everyone. One more thing while I have you all, As far as mounting stuff on my belt, I assume the thing to do is to make the mating end of the belt be on my left side, so that I can mount the rack in front and holster on my right side? Seems like the thing to do, just want to make sure.
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Well Titegroup is what I can get for now so I'm going to give it a shot! As far as the moon clips, I emailed BMT also, just to see what they think about the situation…