PoorMansOpen

Will do, I really appreciate that.

Accurate. Feathers are definitely going to get ruffled among the old timers. I vaguely remember a guy looking down his own barrel when he got a squib abt 8 years ago. (He hadn't been cleared or anything.) Oh and he didn't get DQ'ed for some ridiculous reason.

We have a few certified RO's, and a few who havent renewed their certs, but honestly should. Also, I am planning on taking the next RO and/or CRO course that is less than a 4 hr drive away. There really arent any close to me. Thanks for the advice!

Thank you for all the advice, I really appreciate it. You are right that I don't know everthing, and the algebra thing is a good way of explaining that, so thanks. I will definitely keep studying, I can never learn too much. I definitely have a couple people I could ask to be RM, and I will be sure to check out the NROI website. Thanks again!

Agreed, and hopefully we can find that mentorship before someone is allowed to shoot after a safety violation and someone gets hurt or worse.

For clarification, I am not asking for a get out of DQ free card as you called it. I am asking for the official ruling if there is one on when the call has to be made so it does not become an issue in the future. I said supposedly because the call was made so late that I had no time to recognize what I did and am unaware I actually broke the 180 or if it was just really close. By "typical wrist flick" I am referring to sideways motion one typically makes with their wrist when inserting a new magazine. I agree that safety is the number one concern and is more important than anybody's happieness or feelings. Yes, DQ's are called for safety, but this one wasn't. It wasnt until the COF was complete and I was holstered that the RO informed me that I broke the 180 and the stage wouldnt be scored. In fact, he never officially DQ'ed me, I DQ'ed myself because I know the rules and the importance behind them. Im not going to retype everything else I already said about changes that need to be made, but its something that will be addressed immediately.

Guilty as charged lol. What I forgot to mention in my OP is that I am 16, so even though I have read the entire handbook and know the all the rules, the certified RO's and old timers don't really listen to me. Most of the times, including the ND I mentioned, I have strongly urged to DQ as it is obviously a huge safety issue. (The respose is usually something like "We are all here to have fun, nobody got hurt and nobody us winning prizes so it doesn't matter.) I think our biggest issue rn is that instead of one MD, we have 5, all of whom dont always agree. Perhaps the best possible course of action would be to either hand the "authority" over to my dad who more people will listen to and keep him up to date on all the rules, procedures, etc. or realize that I might have to push some buttons and ruffle some feathers if people want to be lenient on rules. I agree that I have to be catious on not making it seem personal. As far as RO's, we have about 5 or 6 certified RO's that are at our matches, plus a few (including myself) that are uncertified.

That's what I was thinking. The 180 break was your typical wrist flick when reloading, barely broke and went downrange immediately, so he had plenty of time where it was safe to call before i was finished. And yea, i have no problem being DQ'ed for a 180, it just needs to be consistent like you said.

Not sure if this is the right sub, but here goes anyways. At my local USPSA match (Level 1, nobody's winning anything, just here to have fun) that I have been running with my dad for about a year and a half (we do all the admin as well as a few of the stages) when I supposedly broke the 180 while reloading. I don't dispute the call, but it wasn't made until after I had completed the stage about 10rds later. I finished shooting and heard this from the RO: "If you are finished, unload and show clear. If clear, slide down, hammer down, and holster. Oh, also I should have called it when it happened, but you broke the 180 and are DQ'ed." (Paraphrasing). My question is, both for now and future reference, does the RO have to call the violation when it happens for it to be valid? I only ask that because multiple RO's at our range have made that claim before. Its really no big deal, just a little miffed because I could have DQ'ed at least four other shooters on that stage if I was RO'ing, one for a 180 (was clearly acknowledged by the other RO who was running him) and the other three for fingers on the rigger while moving or reloading. Plus one shooter (granted he was new) broke the 180 on the previous stage, the same RO acknowledged it and did nothing. We also had a shooter with an ND a few months back and the same RO who DQ'ed me made the decision to let them keep shooting. Y'all let me know, am I overreacting or is it a little bit of unfair descision making. TL;DR RO didn't call a 180 violation until after the stage was completed, DQ'ed me anyways, yet let two others who clearly broke the 180 keep shooting. Same RO has let a shooter with a ND keep shooting. Question is, does the RO have to make the DQ call at the time of the violation?