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6 minutes ago, motosapiens said:
who cares? it makes sense for revolver and ss to be lo-cap. it doesn't really make good sense to me to create an artificial lo-cap division.
This. Whatever justification or rationale there may have been for it during the Clinton mag-ban era has long passed.
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If you're going to change stuff up, leave CO as it is and bump up the mag limit to 15 in Production. You'd have CO and Prod for minor shooters, and Limited and Open for major. An optic and iron option for each with no artificially reduced mag limits. SS is still there if you like reloading, Revo if you're a real masochist, and PCC if you want to shoot a rifle in a pistol match.
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9 minutes ago, SGT_Schultz said:
LOL....
This is a joke, right?
Apparently our sport is now golf. Spectators must be quiet after "Make ready". Maybe the RO's should be given those "Quiet Please" paddles they can hold up.
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I snagged 1k from Midway yesterday, shipped immediately. Brownell's has also had SPP off and on, but with higher hazmat shipping than Midway.
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22 minutes ago, NateMorris7 said:
I really dont get the push for paying for training. Understanding and implementing shooting fundamentals are 2 very different things. I didnt say I was worried about classification, I was more wondering why even bother shooting them. Much of shooting is mental, and while I understand that, it is not so easy for me to overcome. I have shot multiple other disciplines and am decent at all of them without paying someone to train me. would it help me, of course, but so early into this type of shooting it would be a waste because 90% of it would not be understood or retained due to lack of situational experience. If I am not even comfortable with the gun yet, why would i go through the pain of a class where I am expected to be able to hit all A's under 0 pressure.
Its all just conversation and conjecture. I am not by any means saying I need to get a certain classification, I just don't see wasting the ammo for something so trivial.
You're looking at the classifiers completely wrong. Just think of them as stages; you're right, at this point if you get a classification it's going to be D. So it goes. But you clearly need practice and experience, and shooting classifiers, like any other stage, will give you that. Classifiers are designed to be a test of certain skills, so shooting them might at least help you figure out what you need to work on. However, if you don't at least have some fundamentals, it's going to be a waste of time and ammo. You can shoot stages all day long but if your grip sucks and you don't know it, you will never improve. That's where paying for training can come in.
If you're really "not even comfortable" with your gun yet, you shouldn't even be shooting matches. You should be at the range getting comfortable with it. You should also be scouring YouTube for videos from people like Bob Vogel, Max Michel, Ben Stoeger, and other shooters/instructors. There is a ton of information out there for the taking on everything from the proper grip, movement, reloads, stage planning, etc. Watch and try to learn, get comfortable with your pistol and at least get a decent grip, and then you might not feel like you're wasting your time so much. And lower your expectations. You're going to suck for a while.
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27 minutes ago, Woodsparrow said:
Yeah, after I went so hard and did nada, I was looking to ease in this time - get to a point where supplies are limiting not skill, maybe. Is 3 magazines enough? Or do you need 5?
Can I start with a cheapo belt, or do I 'really need' to start with a competition belt?
There's the "start with inexpensive stuff in case you end up not enjoying it" theory, and the "buy once cry once" theory. I was on a limited budget when I started (still am) and went with a cheap belt/mag holder set from a company called Krydex on Amazon - it was less than $60 for the belts (inner and outer) and 4 mag carriers. I've since added a 5th one. I think it's a Black Scorpion knock-off. It is definitely not the best quality - the belt is not nearly as stiff as the name-brand belts, but it holds my holster just fine and is certainly not holding me back at all. I'm not necessarily recommending that route, but it's viable.
The first couple matches I shot were actually with a 511 concealed carry belt and USGI surplus mag pouches, so the set-up from Amazon was a significant improvement.
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I'm a refugee from Illinois...welcome!
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It's not a necessity, for sure, but IMO it's a good idea for a competition gun. I shoot a 92fs and I've had stages where I left the safety on after holstering at make ready, which makes that first shot a little awkward. I've also had a couple occasions where I've run the gun dry and accidentally put the safety on when I racked the slide after reload. The G conversion is one of those things on my to-do list.
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4 hours ago, AverageJoeShooting said:
can you imagine shooting a division where DA is even a thing
It's not for the weak.
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Well that didn't last long.
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43 minutes ago, ltdmstr said:
So, you can DQ someone for unsafe gun handling in a safe area, clubhouse, parking lot, outhouse, or just about anywhere at the range when a match is taking place. But not in another bay that's specifically set aside for unsupervised live fire, because it's not designated as a match stage? Ok. Also, the bigger concern is the potential for legal liability. If they designate a bay for unsupervised live fire, and something bad happens, they're going to have a real problem regardless of whether they consider that part of the match or not.
That seems to be pretty much what it boils down to, yeah. And these blanket comments about "legal liability" are baseless. There are all kinds of issues that go into it, like assumption of risk, duty, foreseeability, etc. Putting a note in the matchbook or a sign at the entrance to the bay saying "Bay X is designated for live fire function testing; no supervision is provided, use at your own risk" would probably mitigate a lot of potential liability. As has been noted, this has apparently been going on pretty regularly at various level II and III matches, so it's not like we're getting in to cutting edge legal issues here.
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They appear to be on Magnum's website right now...https://magnumshooterssupply.com/OKO-Red-Dot-Reflex-Sights_c18.htm
I have one that's probably close to 20 years old that I dug out recently to put on a 9mm PCC build; fired right up and works great.
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"Supersonic blast" is, well, something I haven't heard of in 40+ years of shooting. And I can't imagine how it would have any effect on perceived recoil. Unless you're downrange or using a suppressor, any sonic crack is (to me) audibly indistinguishable from the sound of the primer/powder going off.
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I was wondering what happened on that classifier...
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45 minutes ago, Cuz said:
Ya see, I need you guys to reinforce that fact that a reasonable amount of tolerance is acceptable in the games we play. If your OAL, charge weight, actual bullet weight, etc. are off a little it really doesn’t matter, at least not with 9mm minor PF ammo.
Thanks.
How's this - last weekend I ran test loads over a chronograph for 145gr Acme's using AA2. Charge weights ranged from 3.2 - 3.6 grains. 5-shot groups. The spread in the average MV between the mildest and hottest load was only 50fps. So if you're loading at 3.4 (which is what I settled on, based on desired power factor), I could be off by .2 grains either direction and I know it's safe AND makes minimum PF.
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34 minutes ago, Cuz said:
I agree with that, BUT,if it’s 33.1 or 34.9 would you make any adjustments?
Yes, I'll make adjustments until I get 10 throws that fall into the 33.9-34.1 range. I'm using an RCBS dispenser and there's only so much fiddling I'm looking to do. Depends on what powder I'm using as well - right now I'm on AA2 which is like dust, so it seems to meter very consistently.
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54 minutes ago, sauza45 said:
I check at the start of the loading session by dropping 10 and doing the average of all 10. Then double check my oal and then load all the rounds and
don't check it again until next load session.
Same. If I'm shooting for 3.4gr and my total for 10 is 33.9-34.1, I'm happy.
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31 minutes ago, outerlimits said:
interesting. i DM'd both RO's and that's not what i was told. bottom line the shooter's home club allowed a certain action which is against the rules. level 2 ain't playing around. troy & carl both there so call was legit.
Are we going to continue to play the not-very-educational guessing game about what this guy did wrong?
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2 hours ago, IL-SIG said:
What exactly do you mean that you “would not see it”? If you mean that you will intentionally not enforce an approved safety rule, you should turn in your RO card and stop officiating matches. By asserting definitively that you won’t see it, I interpret that to mean you will ignore a safety violation that may happen right in front of you.
I highly encourage you to properly enforce all rules in the rule book regardless of what level match you are officiating. If you’re only selectively enforcing the rules that you think are important you should quit before someone gets hurt. Safety rules exist for all of our protection.
This. To paraphrase, “All that is required for attention to safety rules to slip, is for those who are tasked with enforcing those rules to ignore them.” You signed up to enforce USPSA rules. Do it or retire; your attitude is disgusting.
As to the video, I saw the shooter look up as he turned down range. Didn’t see him getting a “sight picture” or anything definitive. If he turned on the dot when he unbagged, DQ. Based solely on the video - no DQ.
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8 minutes ago, Jeff226 said:
And you are going to base your opposition to what would be the largest division in USPSA on the unduly literal fact that the book lacks one sentence saying they are separate divisions? That is the great instability?
Well, that little "lacks one sentence" is kind of a big deal when you're talking about creating a new division. And (rules being rules) "literally" is how they're supposed to be read.
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You could do that, but I think you’d be better served by rinsing it and (after it’s dry) tossing it in the vibratory tumbler for an hour it so. The tumbling will get the grit off that might end up scratching your cases up. Or just skip the rinsing and tumble for a couple hours. You won’t have “wet tumble with pins” shiny bling clean, but you’ll have “not going to scratch my dies up-clean enough” clean.
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Lol...I saw OP’s last post in unread topics and (not having seen a single post) knew who he was replying to.
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16 minutes ago, MikeyScuba said:
What was wrong with the livestream last year (or was it 2019) at the various nats? I remember they had a dedicated camera dude who followed the super squad around. Didn't Nils take over filming at some point and did an adhoc interview of the guys on the squad? It was memorable regardless. This one was not.
The only good thing about this one is that if you knew the schedule, you could catch the stream when people you wanted to see were at the streamed stages. I caught the people I know who were there on stage 3 - they happen to have been squadded with Rowdy, so I may have seen him too. Whoever was switching cameras managed to switch from one of them on stage 4 right at "make ready" so they could show another stage pasting and resetting, so that kind of sucked.
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5 minutes ago, RJH said:
There is no popper issue. There are people hitting them low in the calibration Zone with what could very well be sub minor ammo and then wondering why they don't fall though....
Hitting them "low" in the calibration zone is irrelevant - the calibration zone is the calibration zone, so a hit in that zone should drop the popper. Running ammo on the ragged edge of sub-minor is certainly a problem, though.
Which 92 to buy these days for Production?
in Beretta
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I shoot a 92FS, basically because it's what I had when I decided to try USPSA. The two issues I have with it are the sights and the safety. The safety is the easier fix - I can put a G kit in it and turn the safety into a decocker, which would prevent the (rare) issues I've had with either forgetting to flip the safety off after holstering at "make ready" or accidentally putting it on if I run the gun dry and have to reload during a stage (my loads don't always lock the slide back).
The sights are tougher, since the front sight isn't dovetailed. I'm contemplating getting a Vertec slide or an M9A3 slide to replace the one I have now. I think the front sight is too thick and short to allow precise aiming on distant or smaller targets. I'd like to be able to replace the front with a thinner sight with a fiber optic and the rear with an adjustable target sight (I could do that now but if I end up getting a new slide I'd rather only do the work once).
So, if I was getting into it now and looking for a 92 variant, I'd get one with a dovetailed front sight and also has (or can accept) the decocker.