Johansson81
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I bought a pair of them for my Domina LF and I got feeding issues from day one, I eventually cut up two original 17rd mags and welded them together into one 170mm mag. Has worked flawlessly for 3 years.
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1 hour ago, Maurice said:
What trigger do you prefer? Xtreme flat? I have the oem and I feel it is too far forward.
Yup I run the flat trigger, never liked the curved original one.
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2 hours ago, Nic_USPSA_C said:
I have 3 open 2011 and I am a fan of CZ, have always thought about adding a Czechmate or Tanfo to my collection. I really like the look of the Domina.
The thing that worries me the most are the magazines. Is there a good source for additional magazines? Do 28 round mags run in these guns?
I bought three of the Tanfoglio 170mm mags and they were crap, feeding issues to no end no matter what kind of mods I did to the lips.
Buy two original short mag tubes and have someone cut and weld them together, with the Grams follower I can fit 28 in my welded mags.
Aprox. 6000 rounds out of the each of my two 170mm mags so far and not a single issue.
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I have shot close to 15.000 rounds through my Domina with Extreme internals and a custom comp, not a single issue other than the 170mm mags that are crap. I ended up welding two short mags together to get it to feed properly.
29.5mm OAL with 123gn RN plated bullets, 8.0gn 3n38 and 168-169PF. Runs really flat.
My spare one is identical except for the hammer and trigger.
No idea why the image turns sideways...
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Without popple holes in the barrel you will need a larger (better) comp than the Unica to make it run anywhere near flat.
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3 hours ago, stumpyv8 said:
You won't be sorry dude.
Let me know if you'd like any help with technique
Awesome, thanks!
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I bought a gen5 28shell rig and a Matchsaver today so as soon as I get back home I'll start practising quad loading until I can do them in my sleep.
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Ok, with a 170mm rule there isnt much to gain from multiple shell holders.
Copy the top guys is usually the best approach, thanks!
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Your reasoning behind left hand loading makes sense Jon.
Having the shell holders set up at the best angle is also a great hint, I have my 170mm open mags angled perfectly for a quick grab from each position so it would be dumb not to have the shotgun rig set up in the same way.
Following that thought, would it be better to have two 12 shell holders and a 4 all set at the best angle than a single 28? The total cost would be about the same.
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Great advice guys! I'll try a 28 shell left hand rig in the store and if I like it I'll buy it and do some serious dry practice this winter.
For a belt, will a wide leather weight lifting belt do? I am not very interested in paying 140 euros for a King belt that looks more or less identical to a 20 euro bodybuilder belt.
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Oh, one thing I have to ask before I buy a rig.
I have for obvious reasons not been able to do any real testing if I like strong hand reloading better than weak hand dito, and since the King rigs are either LH or RH I need to make a decision before I buy one.
I "think" that weak hand reloading with the gun stock in my armpit would be easier for me while running through a stage, mixing both styles is an option but it feels like it might confuse things when I have to remember what shell carrier that still has shells in it in the middle of a stage.
Thoughts about this anyone? I'd love to try all kinds of rig setups but I have a 10 hour drive to the store that sells the King rigs so I would like to pick one setup and stick to it.
Cheers!
/Anders
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That is very kind of you Jon, I am focusing on my Open handgun shooting so the shotgun will be mainly be used for local matches and training sessions.
At least for now, I might get hooked once I get the quad loading sorted out.
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34 minutes ago, stumpyv8 said:
Yup, should be fine
Good choice with Kings as well
Great, I wouldnt want to make the last reload on a long stage with shells from the pant pockets.
King seems to be quality stuff, and they sell the brand locally so I can try them out before I buy.
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Thanks a lot Jon for the explanation! A 28 shell King rig plus an additional 8shell holder will be plenty then.
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As the title suggests, how many shells do an IPSC shotgun rig need to hold? I am about to start shooting Modified shotgun but all of my club friends shoot mag fed Open shotguns so no help there.
I have seen rigs with three 8-shell holders, but then there are King rigs with like 48 shells or so so I am mighty confused how large a rig I really need. No plans for world shoots or other major matches, just club matches and the occational lvl2.
Cheers!
/Anders
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Here is my Tanfoglio Domina LF 9mm, I am finally starting to be satisfied with it after a trigger job, machining a new comp and thumb rest and gluing carbide sand to the grip panels.
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3 hours ago, blueorison said:
Thanks for sharing with the Americans!
I really enjoy the Stock 3 in 10mm; softest shooting 10mm (the Perfect 10 was nice, too).
I think your shared data points on the open configuration will help many of the Americans that wish to go this route; comparing it with the CZs, whether it be load or porting, I've seen the Czechmates be super flippy. I've not seen vids of them being shot, so I can't comment, but IRL, that is how they look, to me. Per your post, perhaps this is improper porting.
You are welcome!
I have very little experience with open guns other than this one, but I suspect that a non-hybrid barrelled design shooting Major loads will need a pretty efficient (read large) comp in order to behave.
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9 hours ago, Yagi said:
That gun looks familiar.
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The new comp is awesome! Much less recoil and dot movement, I shot a couple of series with 80%A and the rest C at 25 yards at a speed that would have given me several Mikes with the original comp.
You can see the ports working in the pic, fire out of all three ports and only a puff of smoke out through the end.
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A bit of more work done to the Domina, a new thumb rest has been made, the mag release button has been extended and I have milled a large three port compensator that I just got back from hard anodizing.
The new comp makes a world of difference, the dot is back on target even before the slide has cycled, the original comp is way too small for a non-hybrid barrel in my humble opinion.
The angle of the photo makes the comp look larger than it really is.
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I've installed a Unica hammer, custom sear and lighter main and firing pin springs. Now the trigger is perfect, it was a bit too heavy for my taste before.
I have also epoxy glued carbide sand to the grips since the originals would soon get slippery when the palms get sweaty.
Happy new year!
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Just now, Fasthenk65 said:
Nice job! Some people (like me) have to buy the Xtreme trigger to get this result. Let us know how the load did work!
I considered it but didn't want to wait two weeks for one to arrive, with a full blown metal shop it is a quick job to modify the standard trigger.
I'll let you know how the load tests progress!
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I didn't fancy the curved trigger, so I spent an hour in the workshop straightening it out. Now it fits my hands much better.
At the moment I am trying to sort out a Major load for it, with LOS 123gr RN bullets I can load as long as 29.8mm OAL but I settled with 29.5mm and 7.9gr 3n38 for a starter.
I'll chrono it next week and see what PF I'll get out of it, the load is barely even compressed so there is room for 0.2gr more if needed.
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One thing I have noticed though is that the blue coating isn´t very tough, I use a speed holster and after just a few weeks of dry practice the trigger guard looks like this. It is a race gun so I don´t care, but I thought I´d mention it.
The Domina has a very short chamber just like any other Tanfoglio. The problem with the Domina is that the barrel apparently has a very hard coating that a normal reamer can´t cope with, so a carbide reamer is probably the only option if you want to ream it. 29.5mm OAL with 123gr RN bullets is possible without reaming, but the 123gr FP I normally shoot can only be loaded to 28.0mm OAL which is insanely short. Especially since I will use VV 3n38 powder that almost fills the case to the rim at 8 grains.
Amy thoughts on Tanfoglio for Open division?
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I shoot Domina 9x19 and had severe issues with the Tanfoglio big sticks, I solved it by cutting two factory 17-rounders apart and tigwelding them together into a 170mm mag.
Made three of them and never had an issue since, with Grams spring and follower I can get 25 rounds into them which is a bit of an issue on medium IPSC stages. I will order an MBX mag and use for those pesky 24-round stages without a good place to reload.