Well guys, sorry to ruffle anyones feathers,,,I guess what really bothered me about the whole thing is this pedestal that I use to hold all these professionals on,, kinda crumbled.. However, the reverse is also true,, I have met many big time professionals who are the biggest,, nicest, gentlemen in the world..They, as John Pride said once, are the true jewels in your life. I spent a number of years out in Missouri, and made the top ten,, top twenty,, with some locals,,, It was a blast. What I said was true,, as I witnessed it,, but everybody uses bad judgement once in awhile, including me,,maybe that was one of those times