Want2BS8ed
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With the Ammobot Rev3 new stepper motor/ firmware 4.1.1, and the current sensing of the R3 makes it a game changer compared to previous versions. Quiet. Fast.
I like the 3 modes. Brass processing, Pistol, and rifle mode. The current sensing=torque management leave me wanting nothing more. With options to monitor decapping in #1, primer in #2, and have the option to eject a bad case at #2 with the flipper on the fly, after bullet drop you can monitor for no bullet or improper bullet orientation.
I am happy. It is a super value.
I chuckle at what I did not spend and the features I have.
The key with Ammobot is having a Rev. 3 and the firmware I have rocks.
It was compiled on 3/12/18.
More unsolicited advertising? Still waiting on video evidence that CNC heads make an automated 1050 faster...
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What reason do you all give your doctors for wanting a lead test?
I have a physical coming up and don't particularly want to discuss shooting with my doctor.
I'm lucky my Doc's a shooter.
We spend way more time talking guns during an appointment than how much weight I have to loose!
As I've gotten older and started kibitzing about the need for prescription shooting glasses I worried about discussing it with my optometrist.
Her reply when I finally did? No worries, bring your pistol in and we'll make sure we get them just right for your front sight... don't know what shocked me more; letting me bring a pistol into a Dr's office or that she knew what I needed to really focus on!
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Now there are two standards.
The official loader of USPSA
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The loader that most people in USPSA actually use
That's pretty funny...
I love the announcement itself. What a jumble of overused syrupy superlative cliched adjectives.
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Nice thanks. That’s what I am thinking l shaped. Did you use butcher block to the counter top?No. It is plywood with a 1x2 border.
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Can't have too solid a bench top... mine is 2 layers of 3/4" plywood topped by a 3/4" layer of MDF edged in some scrap mahogany- actually the whole bench and cabinets came out of the cutoff bin.
Excuse the red stuff - I've seen the error of my ways and it's all blue now... and oh are those shelves full at the moment!!
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I have about come to the same conclusion as you have. Like you, I am tired of going back and forth. The call of the 1050 is strong, and I don't really have to justify purchasing one. Reloading is very enjoyable for me. Time to make a decision and never look back.
If you need some justification though...
One of my two 1050's is driven by a MkVII. I am loading 147g subsonic 9mm. The closest commercial loading is running ~$0.92 a round. I'm reloading that same jacketed bullet (not plated) for $0.19 a round using cleaner burning powder and tuned to my gun. At a rather sedate (but realistic) 1,800 rounds an hour; that's a savings of $1,314.00 an hour.
See? In less than an hour you can pay for at least two full 1050 conversions.
Feel free to use the same logic for buying new guns as well. Post-facto-justification at its finest! :-)
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Don't assume that a heavy bullet that is accurate at long distances is necessarily accurate at short distances as well. There is no such thing as a free lunch, even in ballistics.
Bryan Litz's "Modern Advancements in Long Range Shooting" is a good read on what works and why.
Based on your reply's on how you will be shooting, I think you would be better served (and save a bit more money to boot) with a lighter bullet. It's tough to beat a 69g Sierra Matchking as a do all target round out to 300 yards.
If you are going to be a bit closer in and want something that might actually be useful on small game (and still be as accurate as any target round) - my go to load is 25g of IMR 8208 XBR under a Sierra 55g HPBT (#1390) loaded to mag length at 2.260". Its a magic combination. I've run it in bolt guns, AR's, 16" barrels to 24" barrels and 1"-in-7" to 1"-in-12" twists and I have yet to find a gun it's not scary accurate in - including a $119 SS factory second Savage Axis I picked up from Cabela's last Black Friday.
Plastic stock, plain Jane trigger, worked up powder ladders and COALs - and the magic recipe didn't disappoint... sub-MOA. Dropped it in a bedded Boyd stock, added a new trigger and its now sub-1/2 MOA.
Don't discount the lowly 55g...
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Another vote for the 1050. As mentioned previously, it's just not the priming on the down stroke, but the consistency and adjustability of the primer depth that's worth the price of admission in my opinion.
Caliber conversions are expensive, but you don't necessarily need a head for every caliber you load. I have 2 1050's and several heads setup for calibers I shoot frequently, but I have one head that is a floater. Dies are switched out as needed for things like 10mm or 44 magnum that are used enough that loading on a single stage doesn't make sense, but having a permanent head doesn't either because of the cost.
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Cue the crickets...
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There is so much wrong with this thread...
On 5/2/2018 at 12:08 AM, oteroman said:I can’t bell in #2 I swage there.
Doing a M-die type of operation in the powder drop is not what I want. I prefer NOE inserts screwed onto the stem of a Lee universal expander. I can run .356 .357 .358 you are locked in with one size with Mr. Bullet powder drop. Additionally the powder drop is smoother when you just drop powder vs. expand the case wall and bell / drop powder.
“You Can’t run 3,400 without slinging powder”
How can you make that claim not knowing my setup? Shellplate, powder charge, powder type.
Whatever speed someone chooses to run their automated 1050 press at has no relivence to this toolhead.
If you don’t see the point, ok.
For someone who has such a well running machine AND preprocesses their brass I'm surprised you haven't figured out how to properly setup station #2 yet to accomplish your goal without circumventing safety features on the press.
And I do get the point... it's called a shill. You post about a new product and how great it is, get questioned on the veracity of the claims and suddenly the manufacturer (w/ less than 10 posts at the time) is suddenly defending the product?
My turn to bite and I'm throwing the BS flag on both you and Immortal Arms.
Prove it.
I want to see a video LOADING 9MM major, using UNPROCESSED once fired brass in excess of 3,000 rounds an hour on a 1050 for a minimum of 1,000 rounds. Uncut, unedited and I won't even ask you to do it with lead bullets. Do it and I'll eat crow and publicly apologize, otherwise an apology is due the rest of us here.
And just for kicks, because it's such a nominal non-event for you, light-off a primer in station #3 so we can see what happens with an m-die.
On 5/2/2018 at 11:32 AM, ImmortalArms said:We are spending machine time on what matters, the threading and dimensions. Machine time costs money. We are trying to keep this as affordable as possible. This is a tool head. They get beat up. If it looks pretty, then it's not being used correctly.
This has to be one of the most daft statements I've read on this forum. It shows an utter lack of pride in your skills as a machinist or manufacturer... and raises some series questions as to how you reload. Given the pictures in this thread, I t's a lame response for anyone who knows how to properly surface a piece of steel on a mill.
As for being a tool head, I'm just touching 30,000 rounds of 9MM through the same Dillon head now, it's not "beat up" - still virtually looks new, because apparently I take better care of my tools with the understanding they will ultimately take care of me.
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On 4/29/2018 at 8:28 PM, oteroman said:
Amazing.
I use this for production I am not taking it to bed LOL. This Toolhead is sweet. As advertised it enhances the 1050. I enjoy running a full SEVEN stations
Just not buying it. Enhanced how? The 1050 head is pretty beefy to start with. I'm not shy about adding something that enhances operation on a 1050 but you can bell for lead in station 2 or 4 - and I'm certainly not seeing any negative impact in Powder drops belling in station 4...
Appears to be a solution looking for a problem. 3,400 rounds an hour? yay... you can't move a case that fast without slinging powder, so what's the point?
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Once I have the lock nuts on my dies I just leave them on there. What do you do ???
That works if you are swapping heads, but if you load multiple calibers on a single head, it's nice to have a ring that locks to the die so you can pull the die and return it without having to remeasure/recalibrate every time - similar concept to using multiple dies on a single stage press.
I have several 1050 heads for commonly loaded rounds, but one that gets swapped about if and when needed...
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...or buy better nuts. A cross bolt design like Hornady, Forester or the really nice ones from Sinclair.
They will allow you to remove dies and return them to their original settings easily.
Glen Zediker also implies the set screw locking rings from Redding, RCBS, etc can also force a die out of round or prevent it from sitting level in the press.
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I still use the Dillon 1050 cover with my MBF, but have the MBF mounted on a separate pole, not the casefeeder. I just don't zip up the back, just use two chip clips.
My MBF is mounted on the case feeder. I use the Dillon cover and just leave it unzipped and open in the back as well.
I know Mk7 makes a larger cover (and I can't believe I'm getting ready to type this), but I've been to cheap to pick one up... :-)
M
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25 grains of 8208 XBR under a Sierra #1390 55 grain HPBT is just about magic in anything I've run it through from 16" carbines to 24" precision rifles.
Zero problems metering as well.
M
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Here's something else:
I've had an occasional problem with cases toppling moving from the shuttle to station 1. I always thought the centrifugal "force" caused the cases to ride the outer edge of the casting with some defective cases actually able to fall over. Turns out that isn't the case at all. The design of the shuttle is the actual culprit possible aided by some brands of cases; The slot in the shuttle if "square", front a back edges parallel. Since the shell plate obviously has to move before the shuttle retracts the case is bumped by the r/h corner of the outer case shuttle wall causes the case to wobble.
I provided some relief at the outer edge and the cases now travel smoothly from case feeder to station 1 (or is that station 1 to station 2?). Ideally, there is no reason for the corner of the shuttle to ever come in contact with a case, but at manual operation speeds I don't think I'd every notice. At Mark 7 speeds small quirks in the design can create problems.
Not sure I follow entirely. Can you toss up a couple of pictures?
Thanks,
M
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Another large pistol with added spacer.
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A little late to the party. I load 9 minor and case gauge with a Hundo. It's a luxury item, but I have picked up several of Sheridan Engineering's slotted case gauges. Tight tolerances and more than just a go, no-go gauge, they let you see exactly where a round is failing.
While geared more towards a shouldered round, I did pick one up in 9mm and found it helpful on the rare mystery round.
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The spring elimination and bearing kits really do smooth out the operation of the 1050.
Two things I haven't seen mentioned yet that I have found really handy; Level10 Innovations Ammo Bin Bracket Support (a bin full of 1,000+ pieces of 9mm is heavy) and Inline Fabrications case feed stop (so much easier than jamming a dummy 9mm round in when clearing a jam or performing maintenance).
Oh, and bin dams, lots of extra bins and dams.
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I have two of the F&FB plates - 9mm on a Mk7 automated press and .223/.300 on a manual press. Not familiar with the TNT plates either. The F&FB owner has a rather unique bedside manner, but he makes a darn good product.
I would be interested to hear from anyone who has used both to see if the TNT tolerances are as tight.
M
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I have to keep the primer tube and case collator full, I just add a scoop of bullets, a scoop of cases with each tube of primers.
Me too...
I do see the heavier dropper is being offered separately. Anyone retro-ed it to the standard MBF yet? -
Meh... I don't think it would hurt, but I wouldn't spend the money to replace an existing die. If you were filling out a new head from scratch and you didn't need to worry about swaging primer pockets, then maybe...
FWIW, I reload both 44 and 357 magnum on a 1050 using Redding's competition seating dies and micrometer crimping dies. I'm a fan of both, but the standard Dillon expander has worked fine.
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Please show a video of getting upside down primers out of a pal filler. That, I have to see.
I'd like to see that too...
I will admit it is possible, but when I have done something wrong and in each case I've caught it as it happened.
A) I have seen a primer flip when trying to load small primers in a large primer tube because I grabbed the wrong size.
I have one RCBS tube that was out of spec and would not fit all the way into the PAL. The resulting gap would allow a primer to flip. Fixed that one on the lathe ;-)
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C) I have two PALs one for large and one for small primers. Because the tops are reversible and my bench is elbow height, I have grabbed what I thought was the small primer PAL and gotten as far as dumping a tray in the large primer PAL before realizing my mistake. I assume a primer could have flipped if I had continued as well.
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Oh noooo... that's a shame. I really, really like my pair as well.
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I worked for decades in a chemical lab and for the last twenty + years or so we using digital scales. Never heard of any interference from fluorescent lights or cell phones. Our scales are placed very much under the lights for best visibility....I agree that any air movement from a fan, open window etc. will be bad! But this applies to either digital or mechanical scales.
Just guessing here but a commercial lab grade scale is likely to have better shielding than most of the reloading specific scales marketed to the average joe...
M
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I have one RCBS tube that was out of spec and would not fit all the way into the PAL. The resulting gap would allow a primer to flip. Fixed that one on the lathe ;-)
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I switched to Precision Delta from Xtreme several years ago and never looked back...
Been very happy with their products and service.
M
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