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26. When the SO asks you if you have any questions about the stage, don't repeat the whole briefing to him. He already knows the COF. If you want to clarify something feel free to ask. Pay attention during the brief, step up to the line and shoot.
27. Have your ammo ready to go when you step up to the line. Use a spare mag to charge the gun (CDP or low cap mag shooters). Keep the match moving by not fumbling with individual rounds when it is your turn to shoot. It makes you look like a rookie.
28. In a sanctioned match, always thank the SO's when you are done shooting a stage. Working the match is a big commitment of time and letting the SO's kow that they are appreciated will keep them working matches.
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I called my eye doc and told her what I wanted. She told me to bring the gun in. When I did she performed the better/worse part of the exam while I was looking at the sights. She said her husband is an MD and carries a gun to work every day. (Mayo, my eye doc is about 1 mile from your house.)
When I went to get my glasses, the guy said their experience suggested not getting the lens where it had perfect focus on the front sight because then the target would be out of focus. What he recommended was to go 1 power higher. This gave good clarity to the front sight without blurring the target. I've had the glasses for 3 or 4 years and they work great and could be worn every day on the street or driving.
The place I went to get my prescription filled is Morgan Optical (www.morganoptical.net) I was impressed with their knowledge of the shooting sports.
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Steve, the video was cool, having shot the match twice it's like da'ja vu all over again. Hot B. as I posted on IDPA Forum just like any match that pre-posts their COFs there's nothing stopping anyone from setting it up and practicing. But that's the thought behind not posting the running score sheet. We also want to make sure it's done in the context of a "real match" not just two guys out on the range. If they pre-post the National stages don't think I'm not shooting that as many times as I can. If some one can be postal 5 gun champ, go for it! Like Pete said when we shot the match at Somerset we did not know it was on, I do not have a second score because I brought my ESP stuff again.
Lenny, Postal Co-MD
No problem Lenny. I guess I did not see the additional rule "Shooters can participate in more than one division. Shooters can compete only once in each division." The first time I went to Jane's web site.
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rubberneck, I can see how that would happen. I'm not that concerned about it one way or the other, but my experience says that someone might have a problem with it. Like Jane says, this is a work in progress and I want to see it be successful. The rules should address this one way or the other. Keeping your first score seems like a logical solution to me.
Just thinking out loud here, IDPA might consider something like this as another way for folks to get moved up in class. Call it a mini-classifier or something. If you shoot 2 mini's at a certain level you get moved up...
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I think switching guns is fine if your main goal is to have fun and not win. Otherwise there's a high probability that performance will suffer.
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I see at least 1 shooter who has shot the match in two different divisions. This seems to defeat the purpose if you ask me. I guess anyone can setup the stages and practice them so it may be a mute point...
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As for the mag catch holes i dont think it really makes a difference. Both my 140s an my 126 feed just fine and they have the mag catch difference.
I agree. It is probably cheaper to punch round holes than it is to punch square holes in the steel before the magazine is formed and welded. This is simply a tooling change in the maufacturing process. You could argue that the corners of the square notch may crack, but I doubt that would ever happen since there is very little load on the part.
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I have a friend who got a letter from HQ regarding some cosmetic modifications to his slide. He shipped them the gun, they reviewed it and weighed it, then sent a letter saying it was ok back with the gun. He has had to pull it out on occasion, but not very often.
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The COF looks very straight forward...
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2007 Postal Match
(Postal what???)
In January, Lenny from New Jersey started a topic on IDPAforum about the possibility of putting on a "match" in which people from around the country could compete without expensive travel.
It seemed strange and unworkable to some people (well, to me...LOL...) at first.
But as the discussion developed and people volunteered stage design and scoring help to make it possible, it's shaped up into something that many clubs may find a lot of fun.
The idea is that your club will set up some stages exactly as specified (as accurately as you'd do for a classifier).
After you've scored your own local match, you'll send copies of scores to the volunteer
(thanks, Walt!) who's agreed to enter scores into a combined match results page.
Then you can see how you did against folks from other areas of the country.
Check IDPAforum for more details.
Jane,
I like the idea and will review the COF. If there is little room for differing interpretations of the rules, it should work fine. If we can work it into our match schedule we'll give it a try. I'm curious to hear how this works for other clubs.
-Capel
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I designed a COF using a golf cart, but we never shot it in a match because I got paranoid about someone shooting themselves.
We did shoot it during setup a few times and it was a real hoot! It was hard as hell to hit a target with the cart bouncing around, but the handfull of guys who shot it had a great time.
The path was shaped like a hockey stick with targets behind double stack barrels. The shooter was in the passenger seat and started at the low ready position. The SO was driving and holding the clock. On the buzzer he took off and the shooter engaged the targets as they appeared. The SO and the shooter were all jazzed up, so maintaining a consistent speed for each shooter was difficult.
To do something like this from a pickup would require a lot of room. Since the truck would have a speed-o-meter, you might be better able to get a consistent run from one shooter to the next, too. The distances between targets would make for a slow cycle time due to pasting.
I'll send you my COF if you want it.
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I've done it too. The club supplied the shotgun and birdshot. The starting position was behind a table with carpet on it. 2 rounds in the pumpgun and two poppers about 12 yards away. People did miss the poppers and were allowed make them up with their pistol while moving to cover and the rest of the targets. No one threw the gun.
Gman, note that I'm a fan of the idea and if HQ approves it, so will I. As an A/C, it is my job to approve a sanctioned match COF based on the rules that HQ lays out. If asked to vote, I would say "let's lay down some simple rules and go for it!" As of today, I have not received a letter from HQ on the subject.
There were quite a few things I had never done with a pistol before getting into IDPA and had to learn on-the-fly. For example, shooting on the move, prone, moving targets and a bunch of other stuff. All of these things just made me want to learn how to do them better. I've got a group of guys who have been bugging me to do some sort of 3 gun with IDPA rules and I love the idea. I just wish I had time to shoot some 3 gun matches and get some experience. Then we could sit down and come up with a set of rules that were based on the principles of IDPA...
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That's amusing. I could shoot at 50+ different USPSA clubs across the nation and not once have to worry about how any of the ROs or MDs are going to "interpret" the rules. Can you guess which rulebook is is 100% better?
JFD, I'm going to differ with you here. There is a local USPSA club here, where the MD recently quit because of people waiving a rule book at him. He was busting his but trying to help the shooters have a good time and they were picking him to pieces with the rule book. It is so complex that it takes years of RO/MD match experience to learn the USPSA rule book inside and out.
The IDPA rule book has its grey areas, but to call the USPSA rule book 100% better is a stretch. How to define cover comes up at every single IDPA match where the stage requires movement. The MD has some flexibility and I'm ok with that. What is most important is consistency -- every shooter at the match should be informed on how the call will be made and the SO(s) should call it the same for everyone. There is nothing difficult or complex about this.
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impressive list of SSP masters[11] and experts [15]also..
Congrats on the win Hot Brass.....
To quote Super Dave after he won the GA match last year "Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then".
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Has anyone heard who won the SC State Championship?
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OK so the gun was not broke
The guy just wanted to switch? Did he want to try his other pistol out? Was the SO giving him heck about it?
The shooter never gave a reason for why he wanted to switch and the SO was not giving anyone a hard time.
The stage contained 2 Hard Head Ted targets. On these targets it is possible to hit the steel rod (that holds the COM and head plate) and not drop the target. The guy probably switched guns to ensure he knocked over the steel. At least this is our best guess.
Click on the Details link at http://www.dvctargets.com to see what I'm talking about. Also see http://www.gadpa.com/photos/idpa_intro_cli...picture328.aspx for details on how we use the Hard Head Ted targets. We cut the -0 circle out of an IDPA target and tie-wrap it to the steel frame. Then we put a t-shirt and hat on the target. The steel rods are round and even a .45 can glance off the rod without knocking the target over. We did calibrate the targets with 9mm and even a low hit on the COM plate would drop the target.
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His gun broke and he wanted to switch.
It hasn't been established that his gun broke. It has been established that he cursed out the SO, for which there is no excuse.
His gun was not broken.
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Sorry about not responding sooner, but I've been on the road for 2 days with work.
I'm not aware of any problem with the shooter's gun. It was the last stage of the match and the shooter left the range as soon as he finished shooting. He was gone by the time the SO found me. I know the SO well and can assure you that he was not rude to the shooter.
While scoring the match I did notice that this particular shooter got a few PE's. He was not the only shooter that got a few PE's during the match, but may have felt like he was being treated unfairly. Knowing the SO, I'm sure he earned them. If he decides to come shoot with us again, I will have a talk with him.
Since he was a new shooter and it was a club level match, I gave the shooter a DNF on the last stage. Thanks for everyone's input.
-Capel
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P.S. After looking at the results again, the shooter was not a newbie. He has shot several matches and is classified as a MM.
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Here is the situation: On the last stage of a club level match, a newbie shooter decides to switch from a 9mm/SSP gun to a .45acp/CDP gun. The SO says you can't do that, but the shooter insists. He even swears at the SO. To defuse the situation, the SO runs the shooter. He then records the time/points and brings the matter to the MD. If you were the MD, how would you handle the situation?
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I have heard from another list that Greg "Hairy" Bever passed away this morning (Tuesday) at 11:45.
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I agree with Mayo and CSEMARTIN. This happened at a major (daylight) match last year where I was the MD. There was some confusion at the very end of the stage and the shooter rushed the unload. On the hammer down command he fired a round into the berm.
The SO deferred the call to me. After hearing both the shooter and the SO tell the same story (independently) I decided there was no rule violation. We drop the hammer to make sure the chamber is empty. Yes, the shooter rushed the clearance and the SO should have stopped him to make sure the chamber was empty. There was responsibility on both people involved, but the muzzle was pointed into the berm (not the sky or ground). It was late in the day and the SO had run 160+ shooters. The shooter was a very experienced MD. The incident rattled both the SO and the shooter, but no one was hurt and no safety rule was broken.
The way I saw the incident was the double check (hammer down) worked as it was supposed to. I don't see penalizing someone for doing what they are supposed to.
As far as the low light incident described here is concerned, I say it is the MD's call. Low light calls for extra precautions.
I've run several outdoor low light matches and they can be spooky, especially with inexperienced shooters. In every low light (indoor or outdoor) match I've shot, the SO had a good light and turned it on as soon as the shooter confirmed that he was finished shooting. This allowed the shooter to put his light away before unloading and allowed the SO to see into the chamber.
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Merlin - I had to break out the rulebook:
CoF 10. Targets must be engaged in tactical priority unless
tactical sequence is specified. Targets within two (2) yards of
each other relative to the distance from the shooter are
considered to be equal in threat.
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Sounds like an IPSC COF? IDPA does not use shooting boxes.
If it is an IDPA COF, it would depend on a few more details. Are the targets the same distance from the shooter in the first position. Does one target have a knife and the other a gun? Without adding anything verbally and a simple diagram you could probably answer the question.
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midvalleyshooter, the match I described was a local indoor match. While it was a lot of fun and challenging, it would be a real bottleneck in a sanctioned match.
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I saw a guy at the Carolina cup with napkins stuck in his hand cuff pouches and no radio on the belt. I don't think anyone from the MD to the SO's really cared one way or the other. So few cops shoot IDPA with duty rigs that it is not a big deal. Maybe at the Nats it would matter, but I've never seen a MD get tweaked up over the issue at any of the sanctioned matches I've shot.