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Since I am the rangemaster and trainer I can make the call on what weapons our people get to pack. I shot the XD at an IALEFI training in San Diego a couple of years ago and I liked that gun a lot. I am thinking of getting the XD-40 for myself as an off duty weapon. My only worry about that gun is the availability of holsters for it. I will have to look into it. I will also look at the G19. Thanks

We are pretty sure the problem is over-grip or Milking the gun. I think those two terms describe the same problem. Thanks for the tips though.

The thing is she is not a new shooter. She has just been allowed to continue along with this bad habit. She is now in a small department that has the time to deal with the issue. I think she is lucky to be in a unit that is willing to dedicate the time, effort and money to fix it. She is an outstandig investigator and worth my effort. I just hope she dedicates as much time and effort to dealing with this as I will. We are going to an indoor range in the area that has a variety of guns to try out and we sill see if some of them fit better than others. Do the different glocks out there have different grip diameters? If they do and one would fit I would like to stay with Glock since I can fix them and maintain them. Thanks for all the advice. I like this BB so far.

We were thinking about that option also. I was going to take her to an indoor range that has different guns to rent and try a 9mm that has a thinner longer grip and less kick. I was looking for any quick fixes people might know of. I have a feeling this might take a lot of work and a lot of rounds to fix. Good thing I like shooting.

This is my first post here so HI everyone. I am a law enforcement firearms instructor I have been instructing for about 5 years. I have a problem with one of my investigators and I wanted to toss this out to see what suggestions I get. The investigator is a small build female left handed shooter. We shoot Glock Model 23 40 cal. She first started shooting at a police academy and the department that hired her issued her a 45cal. She has small hands and to me that seems like the wrong gun for a small female shooter. Anyway, she comes to me and we start qualifying with our Glocks. I noticed that beyond 10 yards she shoots very high right. She often misses the target all together (paper and all). Close in she is still high right but the amount of the error is reduced by close distance and she can hit CBM. After observing her we determine that she over-grips her gun. She gets a good sight picture and just as she pulls the trigger to shoot the strong hand grips the gun so hard that the rounds go high right. I have tried to show her that you can actually shoot the gun with only your thumb and trigger finger. Her hands are too small to do that well. But I wanted to demonstrate that the tighter grip right at the point of pulling the trigger is not needed to make the gun work. I have tried to hold the bottom three fingers of her strong hand out from the grip with my hand and she pulls so hard with those three fingers that they almost come out of my hand. She is now aware of the problem but she has so much muscle memory that she can not control it. At this point it is involuntary. I was going to start out with having her dry fire the Glock with a penny placed on the front sight. I will have her do this over and over everyday before her shift and again just before she goes home. I will have her do this until she can consistently pull the trigger and not make the coin fall off. I was than going to take her to the range and use some dummy rounds in her mag. I will still place the penny on the sight but she will not know if there is a round in the chamber or not. I know I need to train that muscle memory out of her and it will take thousands of trigger pulls with no over-gripping to create a new memory. Do any of you have any other hints to cure this problem? Thanks