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    Lets see some groups with Dillon reloaders

    in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment

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    I have a RL550B, and I like it.

    I have seen some statements made about poor accuracy with Dillon ammo, I know this to be BS for the most part

    Some guys are blowhards about their Dillions and won't accept the results. Being that defensive of their beloved purchase tells me something about these machines.....

    Guy at the range is a serious Bullseye shooter who reloads A LOT. He likes the Dillion but made more accurate ammo with the Hornady press as well as progressive RCBS (piggyback).

    Chronograph, Ransom Rest, measurements with calipers\micrometers, pulled bullets (weigh charge) proved the Dillion to make the worst ammo. That's not to say it was bad or unacceptable but it wasn't as consistent. It also had the most primer seating issues. The ammo was certainly good enough to deer hunt with yet registered a few flaws for competition ammo.

    I told him he needs to do this again and let me photo everything then send it to "Box of Truth" or make a freebie site with the results.

    I can usually spot ammo made on a Dillion press With Dillion dies when placed next to better made ammo.

    Most notable is the off-center bullet and\or some sort of primer issue (usually because they tend to go in a little crooked).

    I saw the measurements, including out-ofround, taken on ammo made from a Dillion - that was no lie. I also saw what it did in the Ransom Rest from a match gun (I was there for that), and it was proven to be not as good. Not saying it was bad or terrible but just not as good.

    Seems odd how some folks get mighty defensive when their beloved Dillions don't receive some serious praise. I chose not to buy one because out of the box results were not that great for Bullseye shooting. Most serious shooters I know reload using a Star press.

    I don't have a Star but I have seen those results.... and that's worth defending.

    NOTE folks these are not MY words, I see no basis for them, I'm pretty picky about my ammo and I do not see these defects in the ammo I make on my RL550B.

    I know there have to be a ton of guys here with very accurate Dillon made ammo, I know the AMU uses the machines as do a lot of other people who reload for competition.

    Hep a brother out here with some little tiny dillon ammo groups.

    Bill

    .38 special/clays

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    It took some digging but I found Clays data for lots of ctg. in the "Cowboy" section, it seems dumb to me to spread loading data all over the place, put all the 44 mag loads together and let the cowboys sort theirs out, or color code or such...sheesh hehe

    Bill

    does anyone have load date to meet pf with 158 grain rnl using clays ?

    lymans ,doesn’t list anything ,and hodgdens web site only has one but does not meet pf

    .38 Spl Wc Loads For Pistols Needed

    in 9mm/38 Caliber

    Posted

    This Range Rod is measuring the MINOR dia of the bbl (lands) ?? differant makers have differant ideas about what size the minor should be, the largest dia however at the bottom of the grooves is what will measure .357 or .355 depending on caliber.

    Bill

    I also have a 52-2.  You must use full wadcutters for this gun.  Not only are they the only rounds that fit in the mag, the gun is specifically designed for low velocity wadcutter loads.  I use Zero's 148 gr. HBWC over 3.2 gr. of W231.  You could also try 2.7 gr. of Bullseye or 2.5 gr. of Clays with the same bullet.  Make sure to completely seat the bullet all the way into the case so that no lead is exposed, as to do otherwise will cause the rounds to drag in the magazine.  52's tend to have a powder preference, but with any powder and properly produced loads they should keep every round in the ten ring of a b-16 target at 25 yards (about 1 1/2 inches).  Am I correct that you were using .357" diameter bullets in a .355" barrel (your Sig 210)?  That might be the source for your accuracy problems in your second example.

    Thnx for your input.

    I did use what you call full wadcutters - if you refer to the OAL of the round. I have no feeding problems with the 52-2, but can't get the gun shooting straight.

    You are right: I'm using .357 bullets in my SIG210. I have no accuracy problems with that gun. But you are wrong about the diameter of the SIG210-barrel. Take the range-rod Brownells offers and put it into your S&W-revolver, remember the feel, try the same rod in your S&W Mod 52-2 and in a SIG210-barrel. My findings were that if I use the Match-Range-Rod .357 it only fits into the S&W revolver barrel if this is clean, no shot through. With the SIG210 I can shoot 100 rounds and the same rod still fits into the barrel. With my 52-2 the rod does not fit into the barrel at all. So the diameters of the barrels are:

    SIG 210 .357 +

    S&W revolver .357+/-

    S&W 52-2 less than .357

    thnx so far

    BSE1911

    New To Reloading

    in Dillon Precision Reloading Equipment

    Posted

    I have been a machinest/tool-diemaker for over 20 years, on the calipers, I have used several brands over the years, the Mitutoyo digimatic are the BEST hands down, they do not get dirt in them like a rack and pinion caliper, they are extremely accurate, and they do not get the mechanical wear down in the small size range that mess's with mechanical calipers.

    a 4" set of mitutoyo should do almost all reloading tasks...and the battery lasts me 6 months to a year and I never turn them off.

    The ID measurment on the Mit's is amazing, I have had access to ID Gage set rings and every set I ever had was within .0005"

    I would not scrimp on a powder scale, or on measuring tools, also needed is a 0-1 micrometer with .0001" measurement.

    Bill

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