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Several things to check. Check make sure you have the correct tube in the primer feeder, check to make sure that the primer feed tube is "clicked" into position. From the pic, I'll bet you have the large tube in the press and it's not clicked in. Unscrew the top nut, remove the primer feed tube, put the correct one in, turn slightly till you feel it seat, put nut back on top of primer tube assembly.
I will check that GrumpyOne. I assumed it was small primer tube since I ordered it for 9mm conversion and only bought 9mm dies. The small primer cup was already installed as well.
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Took off those parts. The primer slide goes back and forth smoothly with no problem. I checked the height of the primer cup and slide and its 1.217. Is it possible the primer assembly inside the tube is too low? Here is a pic.
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Thanks for the info Jim. Checking that stuff out now.
First take the operating rod(13869) & primer slide return spring(13928) off and move the primer slide in and out and see if it move smoothy in the housing. If you have overtighten the screws it will cause the housing to bulge and bind the slide. Check and see if the primer cup and punch has a installed height between 1.215 - 1.220
HTH
Jim
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Hey guys. I've had my 550 I purchased through enos now for a couple of months. For the first couple of thousand rounds I have been using my already federal match primed 9mm cases. These were pulled due to a bad load. Long story. So a few days ago I re-insert the decap pin and start loading up. Very soon there after I noticed a common occurrence. I am talking like 20% of the time I am either getting no primer in the primer cup or the primer is upside down when in the cup. I read up online. Watched some videos. I thought it was the thin bar that goes from the primer tube down through the 2 wheel tracks. I ever so slightly bent it so that it would apply more force on the bar to make sure it was going back all the way. Things got a little better after that. However I am still having the problem quite frequently. I could expect this like once every couple hundred of rounds but not 10 or 20 out of 100. It seems to work perfectly if there is no brass in station 1 ( only did this for testing purposes ). When brass is in station one it seems like the force of the case being resized and decapped is causing the primer cup to be little higher which is causing it to run into the primer that is getting ready to drop. I have taken the bar of multiple times and made sure that the primer cup was compressed as low as it could go. I am not sure what else to do. Any advice would be grateful. Thanks!
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Some great matches in Atlanta area every month. Shot at river bend this month and was squadded up with team noveske and KC from team Glock. Some great shooters and friendly people here. You should have fun in no time.
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I shot a test load a few weeks back with 3.2 gr of TG with the .356 diameter 147gr xtremes at 15 yards and got .75in grouping with 10 bullets. The OAL was 1.150 and mixed brass with CCI primers.
These were shot out of a Glock 34 Gen 4 with 13lb ISMI spring.
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Your reloads are slowing down your movement. You can either learn to reload faster and then speed up , or you can realize that reloads have nothing to do with how fast your feet move. I like to RUN and then do reloads. Moving from position to position should take the same amount of time with or without a reload. Don't let reloads slow down your movement.
Good job overall though , looks like your shooting with confidence which is a huge advantage.
I have the same issue with the back yard but my concern is dirt bags seeing my gun and gear ...I would freak if my open gun got stolen! Airsoft might be an option for you if you trust your neighborhood.
Great feedback. Thanks caspian. My reloads do need work. I can definitely go faster from location to location its just at this moment I am not sure I completely trust myself to execute the stage like I programmed it. The other day a friend and I setup a stage on a 30 yard bay and modified it a few times. That was the perfect time to see if I could manage going at a faster pace while maintaining safety and accuracy. It turns out I can. My reloads just need to get faster as you said. Thanks!
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Sorry to be so late in responding. Yes, the scores help. Not that it matters, but the points and the score on the classifier don't seem to add up. I'll give you my take from when I made the push for GM in Production. It didn't take me long to learn that minor scoring is all about points. That is especially true in stages with medium to low hit factors, like field courses. I have done the stats for our club for a dozen years and the prodution shooters that consitently do the best are the ones who drop very few points and perform the non-shooting tasks efficiently and quickly. Yeah, I know that's obvious.
My point is this, I know we all sound like the proverbial broken record when we harp on see what you need to see to make the shot. But you need the points. I am not saying to consiously slow down or to shoot in a slothful manner. But it might do you good to think about things like visual patience and trigger control in relation to shot difficulty. I know you might have dropped several points because of hard cover and/or no shoots, but points are still a priority.
It takes a hot rock pistolero to decrease his/her time on the trigger. Many shooters go wrong when they try to save time by shooting monster splits. Once you have decent splits, the way to decrease your time is in the transitions. Be sure to snap your eyes to the next target, then bring the gun over with a passion, but don't swing past the target or stop so abrupty that it bounces like a tuning fork. Work to put into practice what you read all over this forum. Things like getting the reload done in the first couple of steps, shoot as you are leaving a position, shoot as soon as possible as you arrive at the next position, that is especially true if you are not explosive in your movements. Draw quickly, then use the amount of time you need depending on the shot difficulty. Shift your attention from task to task so you are always aware of what you are doing in the present or what about to do next depending on the circumstances. Maintaing your mental focus will help you to prevent errors. Of course, always work to improve at shooting on the move. Remember, shooting on the move isn't just shooting while walking, it is shooting as you lean, shooting while you pick up a foot, or shooting as you come to a rolling stop.
I'll leave you with this thought. The classifier CM99-10 can be thought of as nothing more than two shooting positions. I have seen explosive shooters simply bust butt between boxes, but frankly you get between the boxes just as fast, if not faster than I can run. But the last time I shot Times Two in production, my hit factor was 8.56. Where is the huge difference if not between the boxes? It wasn't the trigger time.
That was some awesome information Ron! I really appreciate your time to respond back to me with some solid info. You are correct on the points. It should be 46 points not 56. I do tend to realize that on a well executed stage where I am a second off from the stage winner it comes down to points. Sometimes just a few points separated me from taking the stage win. So that is something I am definitely trying to work on. I don't want to slow down but I can definitely improve on getting slightly slower splits and faster transitions to improve my accuracy. I am sure some trigger pull improvement would be great as well. I really like the way you broke everything down. It makes complete since to me. As for you last question at the end. I assume it was your points that benefited you most to get the 8.56 HF.
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I am not an expert but I have seen great improvements with the few tips I'll list here.
Remember that a poor plan executed correctly is better then a great plan executed poorly.
Once you have a plan in place ( however good or bad you may think it is ) program it into your memory. Run it through your mind at least 10 times before you shoot. This may be hard if you are first up but in any other circumstance you should be able to do this. You want to be able to close your eyes and visualize yourself running the stage at your match speed. Seeing every target. Seeing when and where you are going to reload. Visualizing the sight picture on different targets ( a good example is going from a 5 yard target to a 20 yard target ).
Now that you have your plan programmed don't change it. If you see someone else run the stage before you and it looks good. Don't do what they did. In fact after you watched them run it go ahead and visualize your stage plan again in your head so that something they just did won't creep into yours.
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I learned this lesson on my second match. It was a classifier stage. Shoot bottom 3 reload shoot top 3 or visa versa. I had a belt full of partially loaded mags. I got through the first 3 targets did my mandatory mag change shot off two more, slide lock. Reloaded shot off two more slide lock. Reloaded and finished. It was LOL funny. Never had that problem again.
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Any other suggestions or things you guys see?
The classifier, the 1st video, is an excellent one to practice on a regular basis. The goal on that one should be to come in to the 2nd box with the gun up and ready to fire the 1st shot just before or just as your second foot touches the ground. In other words you should be on target before both feet are in the box. Check the video of the classifier. Your empty magazine should be on the ground near the 1st box. Your magazine was almost in the 2nd box....a little late on that mag change, but I think you knew that.
When coming into position at a port or opening between two walls, try to setup so you don't have to shuffle the feet and turn to engage target to the left or right. Ideally you want to come into position so all you have to do is turn the knees and upper body. Sometimes that requires setting up on either side of the port or opening instead of directly in front the port or opening. I'm not sure if that makes any since. Check out some videos of Dave Sevigny. He does it very well. He often comes in with his feet and lower body on one side of the port or opening, so buy the time he's done shooting he's straight again, and ready to move to the next position. I hope that makes some kind of since. Let me know what you think.
heading out the door for a bday party. Will be back to respond. Thanks! That makes total since =)
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I have some observations, but it is hard to comment without knowing what your points look like. How are your hits?
One the classifier I had 6A 5C 1D with a time of 7.43 for a HF of 6.1911. Total points shot was 56. The winner of the stage is a Master in production and GM in revolver did it with 54 points in 6.6 seconds for A HF of 8.18.
X-Refactor I had 18A 1B 5C for a time of 25.07 and HF of 5.305. A master won the stage with 131 points ( i shot 133 ) in 20.47 seconds with a HF of 6.3996.
Don't shoot the... I had 11A 12C 1D for a time of 17.95 and HF of 5.1253. A GM took the stage with 110pts ( i shot 92 ) in 16.17 seconds with a HF of 6.8.
Does that help?
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I have been lurking in the shadows for a month or two about either buying or building a tumbler.... well after reading this forum and seeing what can be made.... I spent the last couple of weekends building one.... I want to thank biggdawg for all the info on here and everyone else s input on their own ideas....
. DavidLooks awesome! Great job.
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Grats man!
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I thought it was a buy it now price. I can't believe people took the bid that high.
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I did some some chrono and accuracy testing with my sample pack of Blue 147 FN bullets. All in all they shot well. No FTF or anything crazy. I did shoot them against some extreme 147's and there was a noticeable difference in accuracy. I also know that my trigger pull was better on the Xtreme bullets string compared to the others. Xtremes were going to my POA. Blues were a bit off.
Definitions for the accuracy testing. ( All testing was done at 15 yards )
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Label 1 - BB 147s FN w/ 4.1GR of Longshot at 1.145 OAL.
Label 2 - BB 147s FN w/ 4.0GR of Longshot at 1.145 OAL.
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Label 1 - BB 147s FN w/ 3.2GR of TG at 1.145 OAL.
Label 2 - BB 147s FN w/ 3.4GR of TG at 1.145 OAL.
Label 3 - Xtreme 147s RN w/ 3.2GR of Longshot at 1.145 OAL.
Longshot 4.1GR BB load data
- Low = 887 / Hi = 941 / Avg = 909 / Spread = 54.26 / SD = 17.46
Longshot 4.0GR BB load data
- Low = 875 / Hi = 914 / Avg = 893 / Spread = 38.91 / SD = 13.19
TG 3.2GR BB load data
- Low = 948 / Hi = 955 / Avg = 951 / Spread = 6.2 / SD = 3.0
TG 3.4GR BB load data
- Low = 983 / Hi = 1000 / Avg = 991 / Spread = 17.4 / SD = 7.81
TG 3.2GR Xtreme load data
- Low = 908 / Hi = 915 / Avg = 913 / Spread = 7.76 / SD = 3.74
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Great first impression with BB. Ordered the bullets last Sunday night at like 11PM. Received shipping information the following morning at 7:30AM. On my doorstep two days later. I've got a test batch loaded up and headed to the gun club in the morning to do some accuracy testing and chrono. Will update with results.
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lubed the cases and see if it helps.
Didn't think about that =)
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www.uspsa.org
Thanks. My friend Alex Larche did major work today in the SS division. Wow.
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Are the scores posted?
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As long as you keep the stippling behind your trigger guard your good to go. I do not believe sanding or removing polymer from the frame is legal in production.
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Hope to be on the blue band wagon very soon. Have fun.
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If your velocity and accuracy are good, I wouldn't worry too much.
When you "sort your preferred brass" does that mean that they are all on headstamp in a batch?
Or could they be any one of the five mfgrs you mentioned?
Sorting brass, usually means using only one single headstamp at a time, to keep
everything as consistent as possible.
You would be correct as I am have all of those in a bucket labeled match brass. I guess to get even more detailed would be to separate them completely by head stamp. For the most part I would assume that all brass labeled WIN would be consistently be the same, just as PMC, etc. I imagine there would be some difference especially if its been loaded up before. I just went over to my friends and loaded up on his 550. We had a low of 1.145 and a high of 1.149. This was with mixed brass.
550 Primer Feed Problems
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Thank you all for the help! It was the wrong tube! Feeding is consistent now. I really appreciate the comments guys!