Dan0341

DogmaDog, I appreciate the info. Thanks! Dan

DogmaDog, you're correct. To get the maximum effect from a suppressor, I need to keep the bullet flight subsonic to avoid the supersonic crack. And I'm looking to reduce the expanding gas from the ejection port. With the open bolt system and the Uzi's heavy bolt, the escaping gas/noise isn't much of an issue. But, I'd like to reduce this to make it as quiet as possible. At the same time, maintain consistent accuracy to about 30 or 35 yards for subgun competitions. Maybe this is asking too much? I may end up making a load that is real quiet and another for competition. I'm still reading and learning and will be purchasing a Dillon press from Brian this coming week (I've never reloaded before). I'm tired of buying expensive subsonic ammo to feed my habit. I also use the same suppressor on my M16/9mm and I can go through it rather quickly. Regarding pressure signs, what does one specifically look for? I'm assuming bulged cases and or missing primers, but I'm unsure of this. I don't remember reading any specifics or a definition on the issue. When shooting factory ammo, I never had to pay much attention to this. Good catch on the 0341. I was in a 60mm mortar section. Were you a groundpounder too? Thanks for the info, Dan

Thanks for all of the replies. Much appreciated! Dan

I will be purchasing a Dillon press in the next couple of weeks and have been reading through the posts on this website. Awesome website! At the same time, I've been reading the Speer Reloading Manual #13. But, I haven't found an answer to my question (although I probably passed over it). I know that a major rule is to never start with a maximum load. It has been stated that one needs to "work up" in small increments. This is self expanatory, but Alliant's website only lists the charge weight of 4.2grains for the 147gr. I'm assuming this is the maximum grains to be used? Here are my questions regarding Alliant's recipe: (1) What would the starting point be if they post 4.2 grains? (2) Is there a universal formula for starting points when you only see one load posted? (3)If one load is posted, is this the max load? I looked in the Speer manual and they do not have a load using Bullseye for the 147grain bullet. I want to use Bullseye powder as it's readily available to me and others have said it works well with my intended application. This load will be used with an open bolt submachinegun (Uzi) and AWCMK9 suppressor. I know of several people who use 3.5 grains of Bullseye under a 147gr FMJ using Winchester small pistol primers. But, I just don't want to use this as I want to understand "how to" applications of working up a load myself. For reference, here's Alliant's data page: 147gr Load Data Thanks in advance for any or all help, Dan