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What about Blue dot? I only mention it because it's listed in the Speer manual as a powder to get Gold Dot 115 and 124gr up to high speeds.

I didn't know this site was for competition reloading only. I've been asking around about handloading +P 9mm on a lot of different forums. I haven't found much. This is the only forum I've seen that has a lot of reloaders with extensive 9mm experience.

Thanks for the advice about using handloads for self defense. I have Corbon +P's as my go to SD round. I'd still like to learn to reload +P 9mm so I can practice with the extra recoil. I have a lot of 115 and 124gr Hornady XTPs on hand and some AA7 powder. I feel like the first step is to use a near max load by the manual and increase the OAL, then check to see if that cycles reliably. Then I could slightly increase the load from there. How do reloaders determine how much to increase the OAL? I could also try a new powder and/or bullet. Like maybe Speer Gold dot. I'm sure a lot of people have tried to replicate the Speer Gold Dot +P. If you have, please share your results.

I just found out that Ramshot Sihlouette was formerly known as Winchester Action Pistol. I've heard that it has a low flash signature. My manuals have WAP loads, so I'll get some Silhouette and go with that.

Administrator note: Don't talk tactics and legalities, etc. Stick with the reloading info. I'm looking for a good self defense 9mm load, something that has a low flash and more speed than the manuals would list, something between a max load in a manual and a +P load. Maybe I could work it up to a +P load. I have a large stock of 115 and 124gr Hornady XTP bullets. Thanks guys.