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At least some of the production capabilities for rim fire and center fire are completely separate. Example: Winchester has a relatively new rim fire ammo factory in Oxford, Mississippi. I would assume this is the case with others, with at the least separate lines, as the loading processes are so different. Regarding the rumors of Walmart employees grabbing up the ammo, a member of our club works in sporting goods at Walmart. He reports that employees are not allowed to by shortage ammo there at all. He has to fine his .22 ammo at other stores. They also are forbidden to call friends or set aside for special folks. Regarding the refusal to sell to the under age son, we recently had a similar experience. Three of us drove 130 miles one way to get bulk shotgun reloading components. We found the dealer had a limit of one 8 lb canister of powder per car load of customers. He had similar restrictions on primers. His reasoning was to spread the components around to as many of his customers as possible, knowing that often folks would each buy the limit to help one person to hoard or sell at gun shows, etc. at tremendously inflated prices. By the way, this dealer was not selling at inflated prices. While inconvenient for us it is hard to argue with his reasoning. We will just have to call ahead and check on policies before we make the next trip.

Not that patient, but good stuff should work, and Iwasn't comfortable passing the problem to someone else and didn't want to drop the money again to buy a second gun.

I like plated bullets, especially Berry's, for my comped guns to avoid leaded comp. As someone mentioned, plain old jacketed have exposed lead in the base that erodes out on firing and leaves deposits. JHP or CMJ are good, but plated is cheaper and I get great accuracy. For steel 9mm loads I have had great results with the Berry hollow base round nose 100 grain. The hollow base allows the light bullet to be longer. I've only tried it with H6 powder so far, but wonderful accuracy and shoots flat from my open 9mm.

Problem solved! The smith found the recoil spring bushing was contacting the comp when the action closed. Closing after a reload gave different locking than closing after previous shot. Continual rapping of bushing on comp would eventually break the loctite seal and loosen the comp resulting in slight bullet contact, further affecting accuracy. Solution was to relieve back of comp slightly, eliminating contact. Gun now shoots and functions fine. I used it at PSA Shootout and did my best open shooting ever. (beat the smith) Thanks for all the good suggestions. There is always a logical reason if we can find it.

First shot always is a flier. All 6 mags produce the same result.

Not alsays so. My other comp guns all work very well with plated bullets. I also use a custom open 40 S&W on an STI frame, a single stack switch top with 9mm and 38 super barrels, and a single stack .45 with a Clark drop in comped barrel. All shoot great and the plated bullets keep from getting lead in the bore from an exposed lead core of the FMJ base. I now only shoot jacketed hollow points or plated bullets in my comped guns to keep from havihg to scrape lead out of the comps. I have also observed others using plated bullets in comped high velocity guns with great success.

Three have worked on it so far. Two are guys whose work I have personally observed over the years. The third is the fellow who did the accu rail job and comes higly recommended by other smiths as well as in this forum. Been there done that, now have three barrels, none of which shoot, and three smiths scratching their heads. I hoped to run into someone in the forum who has had a similar quirk in the past. So far I have receive some good suggestions that haven't panned out as well as some responses that show the person hasn't read the posts. I thank all for their tries. We may get there yet.

Actually, I've got another idea - one element that hasn't been eliminated. The OP said he already tried swapping scopes... but what about the mount itself? It could still be a bad mount affecting the C-More, which would explain why swapping scopes didn't make any difference. Good thought. I checked the mount and everything is tight and solid.

Agree, I don't think your going to get 2 bad barrels. The sight is very probable. Are you using the new comp or the cracked/welded one? ************** never mind I guess those are 1 piece barrel/comps If it were me I would test cheapest/easiest first, and to me that is to take the comp off and shoot it (If thats possible) ************** Then go to the scope, but no matter the order, just don't loose your head and start doing multiple tests one fix at a time. I just don't think it's a barrel, I had one with no rifling for 1.5 inches (25,000+ rounds) and it shot better than that. As Aircool said maybe twist with the light bullets, but I would think it would do well with the Win115JHP. Also I would get it to group well first then tackle the first shot deal separatly. I have traded out the c-more for another of known quality. This gun shot the same, bad. The other gun with the sight from this one on it still shot great. I just got back from trying more loads and changing back to the Tru-bor barrel. Shot like crap. Not just 1 off and the rest in a semblance of a group, but all over the paper. Won"t hold 3 inches at 25 FEET. Going back to the last barrel and the 7# spring. At least that shoots a decent group with the light bullets. I also shot my Springfield single stack with a cheap grip replacement mount and tasco propoint. Shoots MUCH better than this gun. Even beats it running 9mm in the super barrel.

Thanks, that's and interesting thought. Same frame, grip module, and Slide, internals, but with accu-rail done to enhance frame slide fit, which is now very tight I just got done checking grip module to frame fit and looking for cracks, with nothing found. Have put Tru-bor barrel back in and will try again this afternoon.

A bit. Same results. I am having no trouble with any of my other guns, including a custom 40 on a STI 2011 frame that is set up and feels much the same.

Good Ideas. I don't have an insert to fit the Infinity double stack grip, and don't know of one, but I am shooting from a rest. I have tried many, many different load combinations with the same results.

Everything is very tight re: barrel to slide and slide to frame. I tried goi8ng up in spring rate until the gun stopped functioning. No improvement in pattern resulted.

Good Ideas. I'm not sure of the twist rate on this one, I will check it out, but this is the first of the three barrels that has shot anything well. Barrel to slide fit is very tight, In fact I put about 500 rounds throug it before I got really reliable function. I can't shoot run and gun because of a disability, so I don't worry about making Major. I wouldn't worry if all I did was shoot paper and clang steel, but I use this as my smallbore pin gun and for reactive steel where I need more power without damaging the steel with high velocity.

Everything seems tight.

Thanks for the suggestions, but been there, done that. I have many years of reloading experience. The plated 95 and 200 grainers are the only ones that work. I have also tried Golden sabers,both 124 and 147 grain, Winchestwer HP 115, Berry 124 HP and RN, Rainier 124 and 115 Rn and Hp, Factory Win and Remington 115 Hp and RN. Powders include Auto Comp, HP 38, Win 231, Clays HS 6 and Tite group. Primers CCI and Fed. Many loads that work well in my other guns, including a switch top Springfield single stack comp gun put together by one of the mentioned smiths. I have swithed out the C=More with one from My tweaked Custom shop 657 known to shoot very accurately. Sight from that gun didn't help, sight taken off the SV worked great on the 657. Doug Jones did the Accurail job and worked on the Tru-bor barrel, welding the cracked comp and reaming it. So I have concluded it's not the loads and not the sight. It's not just big groups, but the fact that it is always shot #1 that is low left with the rest mostly clustered more tightly high right that might be the key. Again, the light plated bullets are the only successful load so far, other loads are good in all my other guns.

I need suggestions. I have a custom open gun built on a SV infinity frame, Springield slide, purchased used. (mistake.) Accuracy has been a big problem from the first. 25 yd groups tended to be at least 6+ inches or worse, with different loads shooting to extremely different points. I had a good gunsmith take a look and he made some tweaks, refitted barrel, but not much improvement, so he replaced the barrel with a new STI tru-bore. Still not much improvement so we sent it in for Accurail job since slide was a bit loose. Still no significant improvement so sent it back to the Accu-rail smith who notice a crack in the comp, which he welded and reamed for more bullet clearance, still with little improvement. Sent the gun to a 3rd smith who replaced the barrel and comp again. I have now developed two loads that work half way decently for steel using 95 and 100 grain plated round nose bullets going into 1" or less at 25 FEET, but everything else is 3" or bigger at 25 FEET, (often won't stay on paper at 25 yards) always with the first shot very low and left and the rest forming a loose but sometimes acceptable group. Does anyone have any ideas?