Taurus

Carlos , you are right, it was a mistake not to mention the HK. They are also very popular. Like Detlef said, don't be worried about your Steyr. One guy from our gunclub told me he likes the steyr, because it fits very good in his hand. And compared to other guns the direction of the recoil is more straight backwards and less upwards. IMHO one of the important things is how you cope with the gun. For example: A member from our gunclub, a very good shooter, tried my Korth Revolver. (If Korth isn't known in the US, it is a small German company. Korth guns are mainly handmade, and they shoot very, very well). His results are below his normal level, because the angle of the butt is uncomfortable for him. What I want to tell is: If you didn't harmonize with a gun, you wouldn't shoot well. No matter what brand you are using. So if you cope with your Steyr, you should stay with it. Guenther PS: Thank you for your generous offer for a practice lesson, when I come some times to the US.

Hello Douglas, I' m sorry but there are no tuning parts for the steyr trigger available even here in Austria or Germany. My gunsmith told me that this has something to do with the management of Steyr. The company was sold and the management couldn't make the pistols so successful like Glock their guns. Because the Glocks are widespread, every gunstore has parts for them in stock. That is one reason why the people buy them. Here in Austria we have very severe gun laws and it's difficult to get a permission to buy a handgun. And so the people think twice about it, which gun they buy. For your question about winners of European competitions: In the Austrian championship last year were only competitions in Open,Standard and Revolver. In the German championship the winner used a SIG P226, second and third a CZ 75. From the European championship I haven't an info about the guns yet. Users of a German forum posting me that they haven't seen a Steyr in competition. The mostly used guns are the usual Glock, SigSauer, CZ, Jericho..... This is only a short summary from postings in other forums and conversations. If I get more information I post it here. Greetings Guenther (Edited by Taurus at 2:27 pm on July 29, 2002)

Carlos, tomorrow I will ask my gunsmith about parts to lighten the trigger from a Steyr. His name is Seidler and he is well known in Austria and Germany for his Glock Tuning parts. Maybe he also offers parts for Steyr Guns. If he can´t help, I post your question in forums in Austria and Germany. When I get answers I translate (I do my best) and E-mail them to you, is that okay? Or should I post them here, what do you prefer? And I think the problem with my gun is solved. After 300 rounds without a failure, it looks like only the strong recoil spring was the problem. But I observe this until I shoot 1000 rounds, and if there was no failure, than I believe the gun works now well. When I got the new stronger Wolff Magazine springs, I test them with the factory recoil spring. I´m curious about they will work together. Guenther

Many thanks to all for your comments. I tried different loads from the Vihtavuori Reloading Guide, because there are loads for exactly this Hornady bullet. And also with 6.9 grs N340 I have this problem. With this load, I believe the slide will move back the full way. I have another idea what is going on: When the bullet hits the feedramp with to much speed/force, it's more bouncing off than sliding the ramp along upwards. That does mean that the angle of the round is too steep. The bullet nose hits the upper part of the chamber, and the brass (where I found the dent) the lower edge of the chamber. This point works like a pivot when the slide is moving forward, and the whole round is turning around this point. The bottom is now moving down/forward and the nose will go up/backwards. And because the nose has contact with the chamber, it can´t move and the gun jam. What do you think about that theory? To check that, I did the following: The original recoil spring is a Wolff Longslide spring #3. The Longslide springs have no ratings in pounds, they are rated in Numbers from 1 to 5 and must be fitted to the gun. Detlef has recommended a 16-18 lb spring. So I´ve taken a Longslide spring, have cut and measured it until the strenght is equal to a 18 lb spring. But now it has the lenght of a standard (for 5" guns) spring. Now a question: if this works, is it realy necessary to use one of the Longslide springs, (lighter, but as long as the original one) or should I use in the future a spring in standard lenght? Tomorrow I make a test with the adjusted spring at the range, and I post the result. @ Carlos: I will stay with the SWC, because the gun shoots the tightest groups with them. They make also this nice looking, sharp edged holes. And you are right, I want to know the cause of the problem and solve it. In the meantime I used RN at competitions. @ Detlef: Wie klein doch die Welt ist. Da finde ich ein amerikanisches Forum, in dem es eine genau passende Rubrik fuer mein Problem gibt. Auf mein posting bekomme ich dann auch eine Antwort in Deutsch! Taurus

Hello Carlos! First of all, thank you for your reply. I tried different overall lengths of the SWC. From very short, to as long as the magazine allows. I used instead the original baer magazine one from Wilson, no success. I ordered by my gunsmith Wolff Magazine springs, and I will try them as soon I have them. But when you live in Europe, this can take a long time. Taurus

Greetings from Vienna! I have feeding problems with my Les Baer PII 6" in .45 APC but only with SWC ( 200 grs Hornady FMJ-CT) and only between round 2 and 4. It looks like the slide pushes the round forward and downwards. I can see that the rim of the stucked round is pushing down on the corner of the lower bullet where the cone shaped part turns in the cylindric part. On the brass is a light dent (about 1/10" from the casemouth and 1/4 of the perimeter) from the lower edge of the chamber. The problem occures sporadicly, if I make 100 shots no problem, the next 100 5 times, and the next 100 2 times a failure and so on... Every thing is checked: feedramp, breechface, other magazines, OAL of the ammo... nothing helped. So I compared my gun with the SVI Scepter from my brother. The difference that I noticed is the strenght of the Recoil spring. The SVI spring (also a 6" gun) is much lighter. I tested a lighter spring in my gun and it works. Than I measured the strength of the factory spring, and compare it to a 13 and a 16,5 pound spring. I would rate the factory spring at approximatly 20 pounds. My question is: Can the spring realy be the reason of this, or is there another problem and a lighter spring is the wrong way to fix this? Because English is not my native language and school is very long ago, I hope my posting is still understandable for you. Taurus